Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-08 Thread Jeff Squyres
We talked about this issue on the weekly OMPI engineering teleconf today. It seems like it would be a good idea to bring over the new shared memory revamp to the v1.5 series before it transitions to v1.6 so that it can avoid network-mounted /tmp filesystem issues. LANL will be evaluating this;

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-08 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: > Thanks for the valuable input. I'll change to a wait-and-watch approach. > > The FAQ on tuning sm says "If the session directory is located on a network > filesystem, the shared memory BTL latency will be extremely high." And the > title

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-07 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
L: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage On 11/05/2011 09:11 AM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: .. > > I know where you're coming from, and I probably didn't title the post > correctly because I wasn't sure what to ask. But I definitely saw it, and > still see it, as an

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-04 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
Thanks, Ralph, > Having a local /tmp is typically required by Linux for proper operation as > the OS itself needs to ensure its usage is protected, as was > previously > stated and is reiterated in numerous books on managing Linux systems. There is a /tmp, but it's not local. I don't know

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-04 Thread David Turner
- From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf Of David Turner Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 6:36 PM To: us...@open-mpi.org Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage I'm not a systems guy, but I'll pitch

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-04 Thread Ralph Castain
ould be reasonable. > > > Thanks > > > > -Original Message- > From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On > Behalf Of David Turner > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 1:38 AM > To: Open MPI Users > Subject: Re: [OMPI

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-04 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
Turner Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 1:38 AM To: Open MPI Users Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage % df /tmp Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on - 12330084822848 11507236 7% /

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-04 Thread Ralph Castain
ble memory. >> >> On 11/3/11 8:40 PM, Ed Blosch wrote: >>> Thanks very much, exactly what I wanted to hear. How big is /tmp? >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On >>>

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-04 Thread TERRY DONTJE
: Thursday, November 03, 2011 6:36 PM To: us...@open-mpi.org Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage I'm not a systems guy, but I'll pitch in anyway. On our cluster, all the compute nodes are completely diskless. The root file system, including

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-04 Thread David Turner
. Thanks -Original Message- From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Castain Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 5:22 PM To: Open MPI Users Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage On Nov

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-04 Thread Ed Blosch
..@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Loh >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 1:23 PM >> To: us...@open-mpi.org >> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage >> >> Right. Actually &q

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread David Turner
Message- From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Castain Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 5:22 PM To: Open MPI Users Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:55 PM

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Castain Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 5:22 PM To: Open MPI Users Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: > I might be missing something h

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Jeff Squyres
er 03, 2011 1:23 PM > To: us...@open-mpi.org > Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp > for OpenMPI usage > > Right. Actually "--mca btl ^sm". (Was missing "btl".) > > On 11/3/2011 11:19 AM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: >>

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Ralph Castain
[mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On >> Behalf Of Eugene Loh >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:54 PM >> To: us...@open-mpi.org >> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp >

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Loh Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 1:23 PM To: us...@open-mpi.org Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage Right. Actually "--mca btl ^sm". (Was mi

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Eugene Loh
thing like --mca ^sm? -Original Message- From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Loh Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:54 PM To: us...@open-mpi.org Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
Of Eugene Loh Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:54 PM To: us...@open-mpi.org Subject: Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage I've not been following closely. Why must one use shared-memory communications? How about using other BTLs in a "loo

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Nov 3, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: > Yes it sucks, so that's what led me to post my original question: If /dev/shm > isn't the right place to put the session file, and /tmp is NFS-mounted, then > what IS the "right" way to set up a diskless cluster? I don't think the idea > of

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Eugene Loh
I've not been following closely. Why must one use shared-memory communications? How about using other BTLs in a "loopback" fashion?

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
ed memory communications? Thanks -Original Message- From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Squyres Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:35 AM To: Open MPI Users Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [OMPI users] How to set up state-less node /tmp for Ope