Re: Atomic Host support on OpenShift 3.11 and up

2018-09-25 Thread Clayton Coleman
On Sep 25, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Joel Pearson 
wrote:

Clayton, does this mean that in OpenShift 4.0 you'd be able to take a
vanilla kubernetes installation and then install a bunch of OpenShift
operators and basically have an OpenShift cluster?


It’s not really the goal, since there are still admission plugins and
patches in Kube-* binaries that are necessary to keep backward
compatibility and round our multitenant security.  Also, the top level
operator will manage the control plane, which won’t work well if you don’t
have a control plane or someone else installed it.  Finally, node
management will be a fully integrated part of 4.0, so many of the
advantages of Red Hat CoreOS would be lost.

That said, if you squint, yes, and we will certainly be doing things that
make the separation clearer over time.

Or is that not really the goal of migration to operators? Is it just to
make future OpenShift releases easier to package?


The goal is a fully managed update process that works at the click of a
button, full node management on all cloud providers and metal, better and
more dynamic cluster config (moving config to api objects you can kubectl
apply post-install), and better future support for extending openshift with
other ecosystem projects like istio and knative


On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 9:18 AM Clayton Coleman  wrote:

> Master right now will be labeled 4.0 when 3.11 branches (happening right
> now).  It’s possible we might later cut a 3.12 but no plans at the current
> time.
>
> Changes to master will include significant changes as the core is rewired
> with operators - you’ll also see much more focus on preparing
> openshift/installer and refractors in openshift-ansible that reduce its
> scope as the hand-off to operators happens.  Expect churn for the next
> months.
>
> On Sep 6, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Daniel Comnea  wrote:
>
> Clayton,
>
> 4.0 is that going to be 3.12 rebranded (if we follow the current release
> cycle) or 3.13 ?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 2:34 PM Clayton Coleman 
> wrote:
>
>> The successor to atomic host will be RH CoreOS and the community
>> variants.  That is slated for 4.0.
>>
>> > On Sep 6, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Marc Ledent  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have read in the 3.10 release notes that Atomic Host is deprecated
>> and will nod be supported starting release 3.11.
>> >
>> > What this means? Is it advisable to migrate all Atomic host vms to
>> "standard" RHEL server?
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Marc
>> >
>> >
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Re: Atomic Host support on OpenShift 3.11 and up

2018-09-25 Thread Joel Pearson
Clayton, does this mean that in OpenShift 4.0 you'd be able to take a
vanilla kubernetes installation and then install a bunch of OpenShift
operators and basically have an OpenShift cluster? Or is that not really
the goal of migration to operators? Is it just to make future OpenShift
releases easier to package?

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 9:18 AM Clayton Coleman  wrote:

> Master right now will be labeled 4.0 when 3.11 branches (happening right
> now).  It’s possible we might later cut a 3.12 but no plans at the current
> time.
>
> Changes to master will include significant changes as the core is rewired
> with operators - you’ll also see much more focus on preparing
> openshift/installer and refractors in openshift-ansible that reduce its
> scope as the hand-off to operators happens.  Expect churn for the next
> months.
>
> On Sep 6, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Daniel Comnea  wrote:
>
> Clayton,
>
> 4.0 is that going to be 3.12 rebranded (if we follow the current release
> cycle) or 3.13 ?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 2:34 PM Clayton Coleman 
> wrote:
>
>> The successor to atomic host will be RH CoreOS and the community
>> variants.  That is slated for 4.0.
>>
>> > On Sep 6, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Marc Ledent  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have read in the 3.10 release notes that Atomic Host is deprecated
>> and will nod be supported starting release 3.11.
>> >
>> > What this means? Is it advisable to migrate all Atomic host vms to
>> "standard" RHEL server?
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Marc
>> >
>> >
>> > ___
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>> > users@lists.openshift.redhat.com
>> > http://lists.openshift.redhat.com/openshiftmm/listinfo/users
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Re: Atomic Host support on OpenShift 3.11 and up

2018-09-06 Thread Clayton Coleman
Master right now will be labeled 4.0 when 3.11 branches (happening right
now).  It’s possible we might later cut a 3.12 but no plans at the current
time.

Changes to master will include significant changes as the core is rewired
with operators - you’ll also see much more focus on preparing
openshift/installer and refractors in openshift-ansible that reduce its
scope as the hand-off to operators happens.  Expect churn for the next
months.

On Sep 6, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Daniel Comnea  wrote:

Clayton,

4.0 is that going to be 3.12 rebranded (if we follow the current release
cycle) or 3.13 ?



On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 2:34 PM Clayton Coleman  wrote:

> The successor to atomic host will be RH CoreOS and the community
> variants.  That is slated for 4.0.
>
> > On Sep 6, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Marc Ledent  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have read in the 3.10 release notes that Atomic Host is deprecated and
> will nod be supported starting release 3.11.
> >
> > What this means? Is it advisable to migrate all Atomic host vms to
> "standard" RHEL server?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > ___
> > users mailing list
> > users@lists.openshift.redhat.com
> > http://lists.openshift.redhat.com/openshiftmm/listinfo/users
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Re: Atomic Host support on OpenShift 3.11 and up

2018-09-06 Thread Daniel Comnea
Clayton,

4.0 is that going to be 3.12 rebranded (if we follow the current release
cycle) or 3.13 ?



On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 2:34 PM Clayton Coleman  wrote:

> The successor to atomic host will be RH CoreOS and the community
> variants.  That is slated for 4.0.
>
> > On Sep 6, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Marc Ledent  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have read in the 3.10 release notes that Atomic Host is deprecated and
> will nod be supported starting release 3.11.
> >
> > What this means? Is it advisable to migrate all Atomic host vms to
> "standard" RHEL server?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > ___
> > users mailing list
> > users@lists.openshift.redhat.com
> > http://lists.openshift.redhat.com/openshiftmm/listinfo/users
>
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Re: Atomic Host support on OpenShift 3.11 and up

2018-09-06 Thread Clayton Coleman
The successor to atomic host will be RH CoreOS and the community
variants.  That is slated for 4.0.

> On Sep 6, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Marc Ledent  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have read in the 3.10 release notes that Atomic Host is deprecated and will 
> nod be supported starting release 3.11.
>
> What this means? Is it advisable to migrate all Atomic host vms to "standard" 
> RHEL server?
>
> Kind regards,
> Marc
>
>
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Atomic Host support on OpenShift 3.11 and up

2018-09-06 Thread Marc Ledent

Hi all,

I have read in the 3.10 release notes that Atomic Host is deprecated and 
will nod be supported starting release 3.11.


What this means? Is it advisable to migrate all Atomic host vms to 
"standard" RHEL server?


Kind regards,
Marc




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