Re: [QE-users] [QE users] pseudopotential hardness and transferability

2020-04-03 Thread Nicola Marzari
Ciao Aldo, a meaningful/useful test would be this - take a simple case of a CN system - it can be as simple as an infinite 2-atom primitive cell of a graphene-like sheet (or a 2-atom primitive FCC cell (like GaAs)). Doesn't matter if it's not that physical. You also do not need fine

Re: [QE-users] [QE users] pseudopotential hardness and transferability

2020-04-03 Thread Aldo Ugolotti
Dear Nicola, I share with you the perplexity about the unusual values for the cutoffs, that's why I wished to understand the origin of it and whether it could be improved or fixed (other than just setting such cutoff and keep going). About checking the pseudo versus the total energy, it might

Re: [QE-users] [QE users] pseudopotential hardness and transferability

2020-04-02 Thread Nicola Marzari
On 02/04/2020 18:16, Aldo Ugolotti wrote: Dear Nicola, thanks for your reply. I mentioned the energy criteria for convergence as the simplest one to verify. Dear Aldo, indeed, it is simple, but also it is not relevant, so there aren't many conclusions that can be drawn from it.

Re: [QE-users] [QE users] pseudopotential hardness and transferability

2020-04-02 Thread Aldo Ugolotti
Dear Paolo, that settles at least part of my question; thanks for the clarification. Bests regards, -- Aldo Ugolotti, Ph.D. Post-doc fellow Materials Science Dept. U5, Università degli Studi di Milano-Bicocca via Cozzi 55, 20125 Milano (MI) Italy e-mail: a.ugolo...@campus.unimib.it On

Re: [QE-users] [QE users] pseudopotential hardness and transferability

2020-04-02 Thread Paolo Giannozzi
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:15 PM Aldo Ugolotti wrote: > there were problems with tests with more electrons (e.g. 2s2 2p3 for C) negative ions are unbound in "plain" DFT: it's a known problem, independent upon pseudopotentials Paolo -- Paolo Giannozzi, Dip. Scienze Matematiche Informatiche e

Re: [QE-users] [QE users] pseudopotential hardness and transferability

2020-04-02 Thread Aldo Ugolotti
Dear Nicola, thanks for your reply. I mentioned the energy criteria for convergence as the simplest one to verify. Regarding the pseudos you mentioned (PBE), those available at the materialscloud portal, I have checked them either in the atomic case and for a simple system of interest. In

Re: [QE-users] [QE users] pseudopotential hardness and transferability

2020-04-02 Thread Nicola Marzari
Dear Aldo, very worthwhile work! Also very hard (pun intended) - pseudopotential generation is not an easy task. In particular, you can make things softer, but less accurate, and that's not one wants. Also, being at a cutoff that converges the total energy is not superinteresting - we

[QE-users] [QE users] pseudopotential hardness and transferability

2020-04-02 Thread Aldo Ugolotti
Dear QE users, I am actually working on a system with C and N atoms. Checking the convergence of the total energy for finding the optimal values for the cutoffs (i.e. DE ~ 1mRy), I found that, despite in the atomic case the suggested values (for example the wfc cutoff are ~ 46 Ry for both)