Re: open office reinstall - lost to computer repair

[James Knott]

Installing it on a Mac requires additional steps.  I don't have a Mac,
so I can't advise on that.  However, someone else here should be able to
help.

On 02/04/2018 12:59 PM, susan leelike wrote:
> OpenOffice” can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.
> OpenOffice” is on the disk image
> “Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg”. Firefox
> downloaded this disk image today at 12:50 PM from sourceforge.net.
>
> THIS IS FROM THE LINK YOU JUST SENT
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:57 PM, susan leelike <sleeli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i have am going to try and install it with the new link you sent
>> thank you
>> you have to know that
>> you know what you are doing
>> and i do not
>> computers used to speak english (DOS)
>> it was simplier to use
>> thanks
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:47 PM, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As I mentioned, just go to www.openoffice.org and download for free.  I
>>> have no idea where that fee suggestion came from, as I've never seen it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/04/2018 12:43 PM, susan leelike wrote:
>>>> the free open office was available for many years
>>>> about a year ago the free version renewal suggested a fee (i'd have to
>>> look
>>>> at what it was, something like $25)
>>>> and over the years the program did change (as everything else does).
>>>> when my computer was repaired they not provide all of the programs i
>>> had on
>>>> it - adobe reader and open office
>>>> being two that i use a lot.
>>>> and since the last time i updated open office there was a fee, i do not
>>>> want to pay another fee to reinstall it.
>>>> every improvement of the computer takes me further out of the picture.
>>> i
>>>> guess i am a true luddite and do not
>>>> find any robotic improvements to be beneficial to humans.
>>>>
>>>> SO HERE'S THE QUESTION
>>>> i just want to reinstall open office
>>>> where do i go
>>>> what do i do
>>>> i am a hater of apps, twitter and all of that
>>>> i am also 80
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> You don't have to pay for OpenOffice.  It's a free download from
>>>>> www.openoffice.org.  I don't know who you paid for OpenOffice, but
>>> there
>>>>> are many who charge for what is a free download.  Some load it with
>>>>> "crapware" or claim this user mail list is "support".  It's not.  We're
>>>>> users, just like you.  However, we do try to help others.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/04/2018 11:40 AM, susan leelike wrote:
>>>>>> users@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When my computer was repaired a new drive was installed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not only did I lose my old gmail account
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also lost my PAID FOR open office program
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I want to do is reinstall it so I can get back to work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is getting stupid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sleeli...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>


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Re: open office reinstall - lost to computer repair

[James Knott]

As I mentioned, just go to www.openoffice.org and download for free.  I
have no idea where that fee suggestion came from, as I've never seen it.


On 02/04/2018 12:43 PM, susan leelike wrote:
> the free open office was available for many years
> about a year ago the free version renewal suggested a fee (i'd have to look
> at what it was, something like $25)
> and over the years the program did change (as everything else does).
> when my computer was repaired they not provide all of the programs i had on
> it - adobe reader and open office
> being two that i use a lot.
> and since the last time i updated open office there was a fee, i do not
> want to pay another fee to reinstall it.
> every improvement of the computer takes me further out of the picture.  i
> guess i am a true luddite and do not
> find any robotic improvements to be beneficial to humans.
>
> SO HERE'S THE QUESTION
> i just want to reinstall open office
> where do i go
> what do i do
> i am a hater of apps, twitter and all of that
> i am also 80
>
> thanks
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>> You don't have to pay for OpenOffice.  It's a free download from
>> www.openoffice.org.  I don't know who you paid for OpenOffice, but there
>> are many who charge for what is a free download.  Some load it with
>> "crapware" or claim this user mail list is "support".  It's not.  We're
>> users, just like you.  However, we do try to help others.
>>
>>
>> On 02/04/2018 11:40 AM, susan leelike wrote:
>>> users@openoffice.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When my computer was repaired a new drive was installed
>>>
>>> Not only did I lose my old gmail account
>>>
>>> I also lost my PAID FOR open office program
>>>
>>> All I want to do is reinstall it so I can get back to work
>>>
>>> This is getting stupid
>>>
>>>
>>> sleeli...@gmail.com
>>>
>>


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Re: open office reinstall - lost to computer repair

[James Knott]

You don't have to pay for OpenOffice.  It's a free download from
www.openoffice.org.  I don't know who you paid for OpenOffice, but there
are many who charge for what is a free download.  Some load it with
"crapware" or claim this user mail list is "support".  It's not.  We're
users, just like you.  However, we do try to help others.


On 02/04/2018 11:40 AM, susan leelike wrote:
> users@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
>
> When my computer was repaired a new drive was installed
>
> Not only did I lose my old gmail account
>
> I also lost my PAID FOR open office program
>
> All I want to do is reinstall it so I can get back to work
>
> This is getting stupid
>
>
> sleeli...@gmail.com
>


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Re: Question

[James Knott]

On 02/03/2018 02:19 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:
> That would delete the file off the system, not delete the file from
> the AOO recently used file list. I am not sure that is what the OP
> wants to do.
>

Items in the recent files will eventually be replaced by more recent
files.  No need to delete them.


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Re: Question

[James Knott]

One method is to use File > Open to find the file.  Then right click on
it and select delete.  That works for me, at least on Linux.


On 02/02/2018 10:30 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>
>
> On 03/02/18 12:05 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:
>> Kathleen,
>>
>> I am assuming you are concerned about the files listed in File ->
>> Recent Documents as your "...folder icon in Open Office". Unless
>> someone else here knows more, from my experience one cannot delete
>> one file from the file list in File -> Recent Documents. I believe
>> there are two ways to clear all files from this list, but both will
>> clear the entire list and one would have to start over to get a new
>> list without the file you no longer want. Here are the two methods I
>> can think of:
>>
>> 1. "clear" the user profile as described over and over again on this
>> list. But that would clear out everything you have configured AOO for.
>>
>> 2. Use File -> Recent Documents and at the bottom of the list, there
>> is the option "Clear List". Click on that and the entire file history
>> list should then be blank. Of course, you will have to then add the
>> files you do want by opening them.
>
> Easier to remove the Recent Documents from the File menu under Tools
> -> Customize
>
>>
>> Note also, that this file list is limited to N number of files, where
>> N is 10 in my AOO. As new files are accessed, the oldest files over N
>> are removed. Therefore, you could use this "feature" to remove the
>> file you don't want, by adding new different files until the unwanted
>> file is scrolled off the bottom.
>
> If you want to see more history with the ability to remove individual
> entries download the Oblivion extension
>
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> Girvin Herr
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/02/2018 04:41 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>
 On 2 Feb 2018, at 11:21 pm, Kathleen Q
  wrote:

 How can I delete a text document I do not want listed on my folder
 icon in Open Office?
>>> OpenOffice is an application to create and maintain office documents.
>>>
 Sometimes I write a text or letter whichever you want to call it
 and do not need to keep it anymore. I see no delete option.
>>> You have your Operating System to do the house cleaning.
>>>
 Please advise?Kathleen Quinlan
>>>
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Re: Possible Fraudulent Seller

[James Knott]

On 01/02/2018 02:39 PM, Robert Alvord wrote:
> Hello.  I'm a big fan of your Open Office software and have used it
> occasionally for personal work.  I just ran into a seller's site on Amazon
> who is making money off your work, but I wasn't sure if it was legit.  I
> thought I would bring it to your attention.
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/Markt-Technik/b/ref=bl_dp_s_web_15352299011?ie=UTF8=15352299011_brands_browse-bin=Markt%2BTechnik
>


It's not illegal to sell copies of OpenOffice.  In fact, selling it on a
CD is a useful service for those who cannot download it.  However, some
load it up with crapware.  Also, what is "Premium Edition"?  Another
issue is those who promise support and then send their customers here.

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Re: Userid and problem

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On 12/22/2017 09:01 AM, Larryloretta Sherlock wrote:
> Hi Tony, thanks for your response but soffice isn't my problem. Somehow 
> microsoft has attached their Word to my files which won't allow me to open my 
> files unless I sign up and buy Microsoft Office/Word.

Someone must have installed MS software, hijacking your app
preferences.  You can reset this, but the exact method depends on the
version of Windows you're running.  For example in Windows 10, you go
into PC Settings and select Apps > Default Apps and then click on the
file type, e.g. .doc, and then select the app to use.

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Re: Panic! Accidentally saved over a document

[James Knott]

On 12/02/2017 04:25 PM, John Hart wrote:
> On 12/1/2017 2:37 PM, Elias Skogqvist wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I was using another document as a template and was gonna press "save
>> as" to
>> save the new document alone. But I accidentally pressed save and now the
>> first document is gone! Im close to crying right now
>>
>> How can I get the first document back
>>
>> Please help!
> The original probably exists on the hard drive, but it's more
> difficult to retrieve than
> a file that was deleted. A file retrieval program such as Photorec
> might be able to do it,
> but don't save files on the computer until it's recovered or it could
> be overwritten.
> It's best when using any file as a template to save it with the new
> name before making
> any changes.
>

Or make it read only.  However, there is something called "Templates" in
OO.  If you save templates there, you don't have to worry about overwriting.

As for recovering the original, it may still be on the disk, but marked
as deleted.  There are disk utilities that can find deleted files that
have not actually been overwritten.  Avoid writing anything to that
disk, until a recovery has been attempted.


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Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: Problems with Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US

[James Knott]

+1

On 11/17/2017 07:32 PM, Mike wrote:
> Exactly!  He can discuss OO without proselytising his religion.  I
> also find it offensive, intrusive and irritating.
>
> Mike Shearer
>
> On 18/11/2017 9:41 am, John Hart wrote:
>> On 11/17/2017 5:11 AM, James Knott wrote:
>>>> God bless you!
>>> I find that offensive.  Religion is delusion, which has no place in the
>>> real world.
>> Just because you have a defective concept of God, is no reason for
>> starting
>> a flame war on this list. He provided links that may or not be relevant,
>> comments about them are useful, discussions about religion have no
>> place in this list!
>>
>
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Re: Problems with Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US

[James Knott]

On 11/17/2017 06:41 PM, John Hart wrote:
> discussions about religion have no place in this list!

And that is why he shouldn't have included his comment in the first place!


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Re: Problems with Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US

[James Knott]

The proper response to that is not suitable for use in a public forum. 
However, we can start with absolute BS.  Please keep that BS to yourself.


On 11/17/2017 09:36 AM, zahra a wrote:
> the religions are for salvation and prosperity of mankind.
> the message of islam is mercy for entire creation.
>
> On 11/17/17, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com> wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 07:28 PM, Chuck Davis wrote:
>>> I just installed yesterday on openSUSE Tumbleweed with no problems.
>> I'm on Leap 42.3.
>>
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Re: Problems with Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US

[James Knott]

On 11/16/2017 07:28 PM, Chuck Davis wrote:
> I just installed yesterday on openSUSE Tumbleweed with no problems.

I'm on Leap 42.3.


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Re: Problems with Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US

[James Knott]

On 11/17/2017 02:08 AM, zahra a wrote:
> hello.
> i did not think that linux like mac needs to install signed programs!
> i searched for you in google and found these two links about
> installing unsigned programs on linux.
> hear you are the links, hope that help, 
I'm running openSUSE, but I don't think the check is used in the same
way as a Mac, but rather just ensuring it came from where it claims to be.

> God bless you!
I find that offensive.  Religion is delusion, which has no place in the
real world.


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Re: Question!

[James Knott]

On 11/08/2017 05:07 PM, Ron wrote:
> I have Open Office on my desktop PC.  If I want to put in on my
>
> Laptop,  do I have to buy it again??
>

You never have to buy it.  It's always a free download from
www.openoffice.org.  And you can install it on as many computers as you
want and give it away to others too.

I hope you didn't pay for just a download.  Some people sell what you
can get for free and then point the purchasers here for support.


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Re: Hi OpenOffice.org - General Support question

[James Knott]

I believe the question was about Microsoft Works files, not Office.  I
don't know that OO can open Works files.


On 10/17/2017 08:03 AM, zahra a wrote:
> hello.
> yes. openoffice supports importing microsoft files, but if you need to
> export as newer format of microsoft office program like docx xlsx pptx
> etc, you need to install libreoffice.
> because openoffice only exports as microsoft office 2003 format, like
> doc, ppt or xls.
>
> hope that help, God bless you!
>
> On 10/17/17, Chris Lark  wrote:
>>
>> Hi OpenOffice.org,
>>
>> Just wanted to ask you this - will your software help me read work I had
>> previously madewith Microsoft Works word processor? Thanks for reading this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: lost documents

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On 10/04/2017 06:11 PM, Rusty wrote:
> To the readerhelp!!
> I really am on my last effort and do not know who else I can ask. My laptop 
> was stolen a couple of weeks ago. I have been using Open Office for quite a 
> few years now and thought that if you got a new computer that once you 
> downloaded OO your saved documents from the old device  would eventually show 
> up on the new one.  My question is how can I locate those documents??? They 
> are very valuable to me...please help
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Ummm... Unless you saved those documents on a network or some other
device, how are they supposed to appear on the new computer?

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Re: Question

[James Knott]

On 09/22/2017 10:04 PM, Heidi S wrote:
> Hello, I recently installed OpenOffice on my computer and was wondering how 
> to set this as the default by which documents open from the internet on my 
> computer. As of now, when I open a file from online, the file attempts to 
> open in Microsoft Office instead of OpenOffice. Thank  you  for the help, I 
> appreciate it,
> Heidi
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>

You can set the default application for various file types.  The details
depend on your operating system.

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Re: Subscription

[James Knott]

On 09/22/2017 07:16 PM, Diane Posell wrote:
> HP signed me up and said that it is free forever.  I want to know if that is 
> correct and if there is a charge how much is it?  I have also started using 
> it and find it a little difficult to navigate.  The screen said that I have a 
> 14 day trial version.I need to figure out how to highlight a print area that 
> isn't an entire sheet and to get my worksheet back to "normal" from a little 
> tiny schedule in the upper left hand corner.  I don't know what made it 
> change but the format changed to small type and a very large sheet and my 
> section is tiny.  I'm sure that it is as easy to navigate as Excel, once I 
> understand all of the commands.  I tried to find help, but nothing sounded 
> like what I needed.  Do I have to pay for a technician to help me through it? 
>  Will the Help Agent be of assistance ?  I was signed up on September 21, 
> 2017.Jean posell526-984-3728dianepos...@yahoo.com

I'm not sure what they gave you or what the trial version is, but
OpenOffice is a free office suite that you can install and use on as
many computers as you wish, at absolutely no charge.  You can download
it for free from www.openoffice.org.


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Re: Value

[James Knott]

On 09/19/2017 09:51 PM, jonathon wrote:
> On 09/18/2017 12:51 PM, James Knott wrote:
>> On 09/18/2017 06:18 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>> It runs on all versions of Windows.
>> 3.1?  ;-)
> That depends upon which version of which DOS clone one uses.
>
> I don't know if it was ever publicly released, but Novel did beta test a
> version of DrDOS that, when run with either WFWG or Win 3.0, gave the
> setup the functional equivalent to Windows 95.
>
>

I don't recall that.  Way back then, I was at IBM Canada, supporting
OS/2, Windows 95 and NT, with some DOS stuff thrown in too.  With 16 bit
Windows, which includes everything up to Windows moron edition, but not
NT, 2000 etc., DOS was actually used for very little.  Most of the
functionality of Windows came from Windows.  I do recall that DR-DOS was
superior to MS-DOS in many ways and that Gary Kildall proved in court
that MS-DOS contained some "borrowed" CP/M code.


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Re: Value

[James Knott]

On 09/18/2017 06:18 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> It runs on all versions of Windows.

3.1?  ;-)


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Re: Value

[James Knott]

On 09/18/2017 05:35 AM, smit...@tpg.com.au wrote:
> Hello
>
> Is the Apache Open Office really free?
>
> If things look to good to be true, they most likely are.
>
> Will it work on Windows 10, ryzen 5 1400, 8 gig memory?
>
>

Yes it is free to use on as many computers as you wish.  You can use it
for personal or business purposes.  Yes, it runs on Windows 10.

Just make sure you download it from www.openoffice.org, as there are
some sites where they'll charge you for it or load it with crapware.


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Re: transfers

[James Knott]

On 09/07/2017 03:02 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 03:55:50 +
> Don Greenwell  wrote:
>
>> I got a new computer, but my open office has many treasured documents, 
>> how do I transfer the open office on my current computer desk top to my 
>> new computer desktop???
>> Sincerely, Don Greenwell, PT
>>
> On the new computer download and make a fresh install of OpenOffice; move 
> existing data files from one computer to the other using a USB key (or 
> network) being careful to observe USB removal protocols.  If in doubt seek 
> informed local help/supervision.
>

Actually, the normal process is to copy everything from your home
directory to the new system.  This should copy over all your data,
settings etc., for all apps.  The details will vary with the operating
system you're using.  Applications, such as OO, should be installed
fresh though.



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Re: apply e-mail program to OpenOffice documents

[James Knott]

On 08/23/2017 03:30 PM, PG wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. Maybe I did not make myself clear, I know there is no 
> e-mail app etc,  I have two e-mail programs either one of which I would like 
> to use to send an OpenOffice document. What I need is the instruction on how 
> to make that happen. The OpenOffice site offers no help. Thanks PG

Install the app, such as Thunderbird.  Then, ensure it's the default app
in Windows.  It should then be automatically selected when you try to
email a document.

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Re: apply e-mail program to OpenOffice documents

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On 08/23/2017 03:48 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 15:41 23/08/2017 -0400, James Knott wrote:
>> What operating system are you running?
>
> I wonder if the enquirer's "Sent from Mail for Windows 10" gives a clue?
>
> ;^)
>

I've never used Mail.  On my W10 virtual machine, I have Thunderbird and
when I email a document from OO, Thunderbird automagically opens a
compose window.


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Re: apply e-mail program to OpenOffice documents

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On 08/23/2017 03:30 PM, PG wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. Maybe I did not make myself clear, I know there is no 
> e-mail app etc,  I have two e-mail programs either one of which I would like 
> to use to send an OpenOffice document. What I need is the instruction on how 
> to make that happen. The OpenOffice site offers no help. Thanks PG
>

What operating system are you running?


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Re: apply e-mail program to OpenOffice documents

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On 08/23/2017 02:50 PM, PG wrote:
> I have looked at pretty much all your site for information on HOW to install 
> on e-mail program into OpenOffice. When I follow the limited instructions I 
> found all I get is “no e-mail program installed” None of your forums appear 
> to give any importance to this issue. All I want to do is e-mail a created 
> document to an e-mail contact. Please advise. PG
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>

There is no email app for OpenOffice.  You use whatever email app is
installed on your computer.  Many people use Thunderbird.

When you have an email app installed, you can use it to send documents.


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Re: some questions about openoffice writer:

[James Knott]

On 08/18/2017 04:34 AM, zahra a wrote:
> hello every one.
> i have some questions about using openoffice writer and wish that
> someone can help me.
> first, i dont have any pdf reader.
> because they are not accessible for blind users and also they dont
> support persian language very well.
> how should i open my pdf books using openoffice?
>

I think you have a misunderstanding of what OpenOffice does.  While it
can create PDF files, it's not intended to be used as a PDF reader.

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Re: CANCELLATION

[James Knott]

On 06/30/2017 11:54 AM, TN Patriot wrote:
> It's sad and disheartening. Years ago when it was Microslop 2000 and older
>   OS's on most systems, I was the person in my town who made housecalls to fix
>   peoples' computers. I can honestly say that in the 3 years I did that, I 
> swear
>   by all the gods, that at *least* 75% of the people that I called 'customers'
>   should not have owned a computer at all, ever. I had over 300 'customers', 
> so
>   do the math.

I've run into similar.  I have a friend who insists she knows how to use
a computer properly, but she's clearly clueless about much of it.   I
also used to do support at IBM Canada and had a "fun" users.  One woman
insisted it was OK to just kill the power to the computer when she left
for the day, but couldn't understand why her computer stopped working. 
The disk was filled with all sorts of improperly saved files.

What's worse is people who should no better, but don't.  I come across
this in the company I work for.  We do networks, VoIP, etc.  It's
unbelievable the nonsense one of the owners comes up with.  A recent one
was he claimed turning off the DHCP server in a modem/router was enough
to put it into bridge mode.  He also seems to think that an Ethernet
card can tell what type of cable (CAT5, 6 etc) is connected to it.  He
seems to think that's what determines what speed the NIC works at,
oblivious to the fact the NICs negotiate best speed & mode.  He also
seems to think some Ethernet switches don't handle VoIP properly.  Well,
switches don't know anything about VoIP or even IP.  They simply pass
Ethernet frames, without regard to content (the exception being VLANs,
on managed switches, with CoS set).  But this guy's one of the owners...

Still though, it wouldn't hurt to include that link in the sigs, so that
when someone complains about OO, we can tell them to read the article.

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Re: CANCELLATION

[James Knott]

On 06/30/2017 03:10 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> See http://s.apache.org/genuine-openoffice since it likely applies to
> your case.

Perhaps that link, along with a brief message, should be included in the
list sig.


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Re: Transferring documents

[James Knott]

There are a couple of ways.  The easiest is to use a USB drive.  Copy
the files from the Documents folder on the old computer to the drive and
to the Documents folder on the new computer.  If you have a network, you
can use file sharing to do the same in one step.


On 06/27/2017 09:24 PM, Lynette Hazelwood wrote:
> I purchased a new laptop. How do I get my documents from my old laptop to my 
> new one
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: New NeoOffice issue

[James Knott]

Sorry, I don't.  I have never used NeoOffice.  However, there is an Mac
version of OpenOffice.


On 06/17/2017 11:40 AM, mark wrote:
> I cannot find a contact link at their website.  Do you know one?
>
>
>> On Jun 17, 2017, at 8:37 AM, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is the OpenOffice mail list, not NeoOffice.  While NeoOffice is
>> based on OpenOffice, perhaps you should be contacting them.  Also, you
>> didn't have to pay for anything.  OpenOffice is available for free from
>> www.openoffice.org.
>>
>>
>> On 06/17/2017 11:19 AM, mark wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> For years, my friend has been using NeoOffice on his iMac.  I just replaced 
>>> his iMac with new (Sierra).  We purchased the new version from Apple Store. 
>>>  He immediately found a problem with the ‘Open Document’ feature:  He can 
>>> click on the ‘Open Document” and it will open his path choice once.  After 
>>> he has either cancelled or selected a file, subsequent clicking on the 
>>> ‘Open Document’ feature does nothing.  He must quit NeoOffice then re-open. 
>>>  Out of frustration, I purchased and downloaded the classic version and 
>>> obtained the same result.  
>>>
>>> What could cause this issue?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> M Mayhew
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Re: New NeoOffice issue

[James Knott]

This is the OpenOffice mail list, not NeoOffice.  While NeoOffice is
based on OpenOffice, perhaps you should be contacting them.  Also, you
didn't have to pay for anything.  OpenOffice is available for free from
www.openoffice.org.


On 06/17/2017 11:19 AM, mark wrote:
> Hello,
>
> For years, my friend has been using NeoOffice on his iMac.  I just replaced 
> his iMac with new (Sierra).  We purchased the new version from Apple Store.  
> He immediately found a problem with the ‘Open Document’ feature:  He can 
> click on the ‘Open Document” and it will open his path choice once.  After he 
> has either cancelled or selected a file, subsequent clicking on the ‘Open 
> Document’ feature does nothing.  He must quit NeoOffice then re-open.  Out of 
> frustration, I purchased and downloaded the classic version and obtained the 
> same result.  
>
> What could cause this issue?
>
> Thank you,
>
> M Mayhew
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Re: Insert Special Character Function:

[James Knott]

On 04/19/2017 04:39 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:48:07 -0700
> Martin Rosenfeld  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does Apache Open Office have a function to allow insertion into text of 
>> a special character, even from another font? For example, what if I want 
>> an em dash or a euro symbol, characters for which there is no keyboard 
>> method of selecting?
>>
>> I am using AOO in OS/2, but the question should still be valid.
> /Insert /Special character should do what you want.
>
> For euro symbol, try AltGr $ to get €
>

I have my computers configured to use the English International layout. 
It has many "special" characters.  With it, the € is AltGr 5.  AltGr $
produces the ¤ symbol.


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Re: Possible Corporate installation

[James Knott]

OO is open source software, which means it's available for anyone to
use, business or not.  This has long been the practice & right for open
source software.

On 03/30/2017 10:32 AM, James Plante wrote:
> I cannot speak for AOO, and I am not an attorney anywhere. What I would do if 
> I were in your position is to print out the AOO license for the version that 
> you’re using; write a statement of your circumstances and what you’ve been 
> asked to do; then take it to a California lawyer, and ask for a letter of 
> opinion. 
>
> Having that letter in your file will give you some ammunition against 
> lawsuits or other enforcement action. That’s the best you can do, since AFAIK 
> there is NO management of AOO that can speak with executive authority with 
> respect to the software. 
>
>
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Russ Hayes  wrote:
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>>
>> I'm writing to confirm how we can move forward with Open Office for a 
>> project we are working on for the State of California.  We are a 
>> subcontractor to Xerox and are configuring/loading both mobile and fixed 
>> computers for deployment across the state.  They've asked us to install 
>> OpenOffice on each machine prior to delivery to the state throughout the 
>> rest of the year.
>>
>>
>> As an Open Source program, is there any open source agreement we need to 
>> have signed before we move forward with this?  Or, does the download of the 
>> software form the agreement to adhere to Open Source requirements?  Again, 
>> this is a State of CA implementationwe're being extra careful to make 
>> sure we don't run into a problem later on and just wanted to confirm how we 
>> move forward.
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>>
>> Russell A. Hayes
>>
>> Shade and Putnam
>
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Re: windows 8 version of open office

[James Knott]

On 02/25/2017 05:27 PM, basireid wrote:
> Hello
> I am trying to download the open office for usage on a Windows 8 PC.. with no 
> internet
> I use my android samsung phone to download most software and then transfer
> Yet.. the site detects my phone and cannot direct me to the windows 8 version 
> or comparable one
> If i can get a link with maybe a zip file? Or similar... 
> thanks for the time and 
> Have a great dayBrian
>
>

Perhaps you can tether your computer to your phone for Internet access. 
Regardless, the Windows version should work.  I have used it on both
Windows 7 & 10.

 

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Re: My entire novel was replaced with hash[marks]

[James Knott]

On 11/25/2016 01:17 AM, John Hart wrote:
> On 11/23/2016 4:36 PM, Doug wrote:
>> Take "extraordinary"--and the line I quoted says this is a PROBLEM
>> known for some time; therefore presumably there is a way to solve it
>> but nobody
>> has bothered.  And yes, I am careful, but nobody's perfect. OTOH, I
>> don't know why anyone would shut off their computer while in the
>> middle of using a
>> word processor. And anyone who is using a computer for serious
>> business has an UPS--uninteruptable power supply.
>>
>> --doug 
> I use an editor written twenty years ago for technical work.
> It automatically saves what you're working on every five minutes
> in a scratch file so if something goes wrong, you won't loose
> your changes. Another feature it has, when a file is changed, it
> automatically creates a backup, so even if the scratch file
> gets corrupted, the original isn't wiped out. These are simple
> things to implement, and with millions of OO users, would save a
> lot of people a lot of grief. A feature to protect user files
> could be added in less time than has been spent chastising
> users for not learning how to do backups.

AOO supports both backup copies and autorecovery.


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Re: please remove openoffice from my imac computer thanks

[James Knott]

On 11/24/2016 03:46 PM, Andrea wrote:
> Am 24.11.2016 um 20:13 schrieb mel moore:
>>
>>
> ROTFL - that's the strangest thing i read here
>

A bit short on detail though.  ;-)


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Re: Re-Install Open Office Suite in new Windows 10 computer

[James Knott]

On 11/21/2016 01:21 PM, un...@att.net wrote:
> I recently purchased a new Windows 10 computer and would like to know how to 
> install the Open Office suite The new machine rejects the installation. I 
> received a message telling me that I should contact the provider to get the 
> version for Windows 10.  I had been using it in my pervious machine. 
>
> Thank you!
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>

Make sure you downloaded the Windows version.  It should install just fine.


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Re: Email set up

[James Knott]

On 10/14/2016 11:08 AM, Wade Smart wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 9:19 AM, vbrophy  wrote:
>> Hi.  Just downloaded apache office 4.1.3.  Need to email documents, and it 
>> said email is not set up.  Sorry, but don’t know what I am doing!  Would 
>> appreciate help.  And if u can, please walk me thru it very slowly.  Kids 
>> just hooked up new desktop for me too.  THANK U!!!  Ginny Brophy
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
> Uh.. Office does not have a email client.
> In the same email client you emailed this group from,
> you can attach documents there with the paperclip
> icon.
>
> Here is a walk thru how to do that:
>
> http://www.dummies.com/computers/operating-systems/windows-10/how-to-send-mail-attachments-in-windows-10/
>
>

First off, she might be using a browser, instead of an email client. 
However, if she is using a client, it has to be set as default, using
the method I described in another message.

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Re: Email set up

[James Knott]

On 10/14/2016 10:19 AM, vbrophy wrote:
> Hi.  Just downloaded apache office 4.1.3.  Need to email documents, and it 
> said email is not set up.  Sorry, but don’t know what I am doing!  Would 
> appreciate help.  And if u can, please walk me thru it very slowly.  Kids 
> just hooked up new desktop for me too.  THANK U!!!Ginny Brophy
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>


First off, you need an email program.  Many people use Thunderbird. 
Then you have to set it as the default email app.  You do this by
clicking on Start button > Control Panel > Default Programs > Set your
default programs and then Thunderbird.  Click on Set this program as
default.  Thunderbird should now be available for sending documents.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[James Knott]

You sent this to a mail list for users of Apache Open Office.  We have
nothing to do with the web site.


On 09/23/2016 11:24 PM, Formsbirds wrote:
> Dear Webmaster,
>
> I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
> site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely. 
> We found thousands of links pointed to our site from 
> templates.openoffice.org. The links are under an account named 
> susie...@yandex.com.
> This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates shared 
> to more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates to 
> your site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside.
> Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually bad to 
> our site. 
> We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user account 
> susie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked and they 
> couldn't log in to delete the links.
> We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to those 
> links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the documents 
> that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful to users, 
> but please delete the links pointed to our site.
> Katie Williams
> Formsbirds.com
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Ribbon Interface

[James Knott]

On 09/09/2016 12:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> This is a Ford versus Chevrolet matter

I'd have thought Porche vs Lada.  ;-)


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Re: Ribbon Interface

[James Knott]

On 09/09/2016 12:04 AM, Tai Nen Chow wrote:
> Hi, just wonder when will Open Office release ribbon interface version?
>
>

Hopefully NEVER!!!

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Re: MS Office Publisher

[James Knott]

On 09/08/2016 07:58 PM, Terry Hocevar wrote:
>
> Do you have a similar product or recommendation for beginner
> newsletter publisher?
>
>  
>
>

You might try Scribus.
https://www.scribus.net/

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Re: download, but unable to use

[James Knott]

On 08/07/2016 03:13 PM, herma reeskamp wrote:
> the programm is now downloaded. when i click nothing appears that looks like 
> writing a document myself.
>
>
> I lost my access to microsoft 2003 word (do not know how to recover, as lost 
> CD and code, shared with a friend jears ago).
>
> I do not see any possibility to start writing a new document with this 
> programm, it does in no way look like word. I can select /open only documenst 
> of other  people,  i do not want to read them!
>
> also no possibility to access my own word documents alas. what could be done? 
> How could I get into my own struff? how to open a new page in this ?programm? 
> Is it at all possible to have ones own documents or is everything open to 
> anybody?
>
>
> I am totally lost
>


After you download (only from www.openoffice.org) double click on the
file you downloaded.  This will start the installation process.  Once
the installation is complete, you will be able to use it.


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Re: Email format.

[James Knott]

On 08/06/2016 07:19 PM, Nikoli A. McCracken wrote:
> The first letter of every sentence in an article or email, is Initial cap!
> Who the hey writes like that anymore?

Only those who respect the reader.

> Didn’t that go away along about Shakespeare’s time? I went to Msoft Tech 
> support, and they blandly said
> There was no way to change it! 

On this point, you're wrong.  A sentence always starts with a capital. 
Reading text that does not have capitals is very irritating to the point
I often don't bother.

Sentence structure, grammar and correct spelling are all there to make
it easier to understand what is being said.  The current situation,
where those are so often ignored, shows the sad state of behaviour or
even education these days.


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Re: "lightly spread pedantry" [was: Double line spacing]

[James Knott]

On 08/06/2016 04:04 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> The idea that all Latin nouns ending -us form plurals ending -i is
> specious.
>

You mean martini isn't the plural of martinus?  ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR_5h8CzRcI
Around 4:45

Wayne & Shuster were a famous Canadian comedy duo.

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Re: i,dd like to have open office

[James Knott]

On 08/06/2016 01:26 PM, Jerry Meije | JCM wrote:
> Dear madam ,Sir
>
> hereby i,dd like to download this , but i am experience difficulties ..
>
>
> here i ,dd like you to send me a link were i can download this program .
>
>
>

Download only from www.openoffice.org.  It's available in a variety of
languages and operating systems.


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Re: Possible Scam

[James Knott]

On 07/30/2016 05:20 PM, Wagar, Hannah Lee wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> I downloaded Open Office on my Macbook Pro a couple years ago. I was on the 
> phone with a tech support guy who helped me complete the download, then he 
> had me download a program that was supposed to "clean up" my computer, and 
> rid it of viruses etc. In the past year I've received 2-3 unlisted no caller 
> ID calls from a man (seemingly from India or another foreign country to me) 
> asking me about this download and telling me to call a toll free number. I'm 
> concerned that I've been scammed, and have read a forum from 2011 about 
> possible credit card fraud using Apache Open Office's name. I would really 
> appreciate it if someone could help me with this issue, as I am concerned 
> about my privacy when using Open Office or even making online purchases.
>
>

Where did you download from?  You should only download from
www.openoffice.org.  Also, to my knowledge, OO does not offer support,
though 3rd parties do.  BTW, you posted on a mail list for users of
OpenOffice.  We're just users, like you.

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Re: Open office been sold for fee

[James Knott]

On 07/30/2016 02:54 PM, richard s wrote:
> Hi
>
> I purchased software on eBay open office with seagulls on here's the link
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OPEN-OFFICE-2016-for-Microsoft-Windows-Home-Student-365-Digital-Download-/291725612179?hash=item43ec339493:g:DrkAAOSwll1WuLnr
>
> That I paid for which I've just found out is totally free from Apache and
> here the seller is making money and profit from your free software
>
> Thank you
>


It's entirely legal to sell it.  Some people sell it on a CD, which is a
convenience for those without a decent internet connection.  However,
some people fill it with crapware.  So, your best choice is to always
download for free from www.openoffice.org.

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Re: Outlook

[James Knott]

On 07/21/2016 11:58 AM, Chris wrote:
> Dan Kusel  rogers.com> writes:
>
>> I currently use Microsoft Office and would like to try Open Office. I 
> did no
>> see anything about an equivalent of Outlook for my e-mail. Does the 
> product
>> have this functionality?
>>
>
>
> It will do your email. I also work with a financial company. You should 
> check us out at: http://eliteprivatewealth.com/ Have a good one!
>
>
>

OO does not do email.  However, many people use Thunderbird, which it
will work with.  Thunderbird also has a calendar.


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Re: Quick Question

[James Knott]

On 06/24/2016 08:53 AM, James Plante wrote:
> But you should be able to copy the contents (Edit->Select all; Edit->copy) 
> and paste the contents into a new text document. 
> Note: I haven’t tested this, but I don’t believe protection extends to the 
> copy. 

Ummm...  If he can't get into the file at all, what's he supposed to cut
'n paste?


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Re: installen apache

[James Knott]

On 06/21/2016 02:49 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> If you are installing on a linux version that comes with LibreOffice pre 
> installed, you should remove all traces of LibreOffice before installing 
> OpenOffice.
>

I have both LO and OO on my openSUSE system.


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Re: e-mail client

[James Knott]

On 06/11/2016 03:21 AM, Hans van Vliet wrote:
> Why does Open Office not have an E-Mail Client?
>
> H. van Vliet

Many people use Thunderbird.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

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Re: e-mail client

[James Knott]

On 06/11/2016 06:41 AM, Maurice Howe wrote:
> PLEASE stop adding religious text to messages to this kind of forum.
> That is totally inappropriate, and is utter clutter.

+1


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Re: Thunderbird

[James Knott]

On 05/11/2016 11:28 AM, Don Morse wrote:
> 1) Install Lightning (calendar extension)

Lightning is now built in.


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Re: Open Office Writer UTTER , UTTER Rubbish (or not)

[James Knott]

On 03/16/2016 02:40 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> On 2016-03-16, 12:18 AM Urmas wrote concerning "Re: Open Office Writer
> UTTER , UTTER Rubbish (or not)":
>> ... but OpenOffice is no longer actively developed. You should switch
>> to LibreOffice, they fixed that extensions bug 2 years ago.
>
> OpenOffice is still being developed. Quit spreading this FUD. How much
> is LibreOffice paying you to continue writing this crap.
>
>

I thought he was a Microsoftie.  ;-)


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Re: a question about docx files.

[James Knott]

You can use LibreOffice to save .DOCX.  However, whenever possible, you
should use plain .DOC, due to incompatibilities even within Microsoft
Office.

BTW, please keep that religious nonsense off this list.  Many people,
myself included, find such delusion offensive.


On 03/15/2016 11:31 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Nasrin Khaksar,
>
> Thank you for your request.
>
> Apache OpenOffice does not produce docx files.  There is no effort to provide 
> docx output at this time.
>
> There are free products that do feature interoperable support for docx and 
> the other OOXML formats (xslx, pptx, etc.).
>
> Users who make us of such products can give suggestions based on their 
> experience.  I do not use any of those for working in docx so I have no 
> informed recommendations.
>
> Good fortune in your quest.
>
>  - Dennis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: nasrin khaksar [mailto:nasrinkhaks...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 20:55
>> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: a question about docx files.
>>
>> hi every one.
>> open office since version 4.1.1 is very fast in openning docx files
>> akin doc file.
>> do you know how we can store our documents in docx files?
>> because for our articles, university and job, we are required to store
>> our documents in docx format.
>> any help is appreciated.
>> because i know the people who want to use open office, but they dont.
>> for the reason of lack support of export to docx.
>> thanks for your help and god bless you.
>>
>> --
>> Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
>> written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
>> good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
>> and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
>> burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
>> believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
>> has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
>> holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>> al-islam.org
>>
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Re: Euro Symbol...?--Euro Symbol?--"No Prob" for Windows

[James Knott]

On 03/02/2016 10:41 PM, Martin Rosenfeld wrote:
> It's been interesting how you guys have been arguing about Windows and
> Linux and even Apple systems when I originally asked a question about OS/2

You may recall I mentioned how I used to provide OS/2 support at IBM and
worked with English and French keyboards and how it was so long ago I no
longer remember the details.  Also, answers on this list should try to
be general, so that others can benefit, which is why I mentioned Linux
and Windows.  I run OO on both.

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Re: Euro Symbol...?--Euro Symbol?--"No Prob" for Windows

[James Knott]

On 03/02/2016 09:04 AM, Dale Erwin wrote:
> Even with the US International keyboard (which is what I use also),
> not all fonts have all the characters.  I use US International
> keyboard layout so that I can write documents in Spanish and Italian
> as well as English.  But you still have to make sure that the font you
> are using has the characters you want.  Otherwise, I don't think any
> method will create the characters for you.

As I mention, you can have more than one layout enabled and just switch
among them as needed.

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Re: Euro Symbol...?--Euro Symbol?--"No Prob" for Windows

[James Knott]

On 03/02/2016 06:07 AM, Dave Barton wrote:
>> For anyone who's good at touch typing, that would slow them down.
> FWIW: I frequently need to type the € character on a standard US
> keyboard and for a long time have used the "AutoCorrect -> Replace"
> option, by adding :?: (colon + question mark + colon) as my personal
> auto correction replacement for the Euro character. This works for me in
> both AOO & LO under Windows & Linux (presumably it would also work for
> OSX & OS2). There is a minor (slightly inconvenient) difference between
> AOO & LO, in that AOO requires a space or return character to
> immediately follow the chosen AutoCorrect string.

So, now you're hitting 3 or 4 keys and you'd have to set up something
for each special character.  I just press right Alt & 5 to get €.

Again, it's so easy to set up the U.S. International layout on Linux &
Windows (no idea about Mac) that there's no need to use those tricks.

I have my keyboard configured to support U.S. English, U.S.
International and Greek (for electronics symbols).  I can easily switch
among them as needed.


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Re: Euro Symbol...?--Euro Symbol?--"No Prob" for Windows

[James Knott]

On 03/01/2016 04:17 PM, Dale Erwin wrote:
> What's wrong with Insert > Special Character.  It's available in
> writer and calc, but I don't know about the other components.

For anyone who's good at touch typing, that would slow them down.


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Re: Euro Symbol...?--Euro Symbol?--"No Prob" for Windows

[James Knott]

On 02/29/2016 11:41 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers wrote:
> No need to do anything "special" to get "special" characters (like the
> euro symbol) if you're using any Microsoft OS, from Windows XP up to
> Windows 7. Just use the Windows "Character Map Utility" that came
> installed on your computer when you bought it.

If he's running Windows (I thought the OP said OS/2), it's a simple
matter to select the U.S  International layout, to get the € symbol and
many others.  You can even enable multiple layouts and switch among them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards#/media/File:KB_US-International.svg

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Re: Euro Symbol...?

[James Knott]

On 02/28/2016 03:17 PM, Martin Rosenfeld wrote:
> I did say what system I am using. I said OS/2 (eCS2.2b2). OS/2 is an
> operating system like Windows x or Linux.

I am quite familiar with OS/2, having used it for several years and also
supported it at IBM Canada.  You have to use a keyboard layout that
supports that character, for example International English.  In Linux &
Windows, it's easy to switch layouts.  It's been too many years for me
to remember how to do it in OS/2.  When I was at IBM, I worked with both
English and French layouts.


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Re: About OpenOffice 4.1.2

[James Knott]

On 02/28/2016 11:32 AM, Hans Brautigam wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Support request about OpenOffice - 4.1.2  (2015-10-21)
>
> I did erlier today (16.40) send you an email about Open Office 4.1.1 that my
> saved textfiles
>
> without notice became saved into MS DOS format instead of the .odt file that
> all information 
>
> happened to be saved and locked up into MS DOS .
>
> My OpenOffice version is not 4.1.1 but 4.1.2  and I want to correct my
> information to you
>
> this way.
>
> The first email was sent 50 minutes ago ( time now 17.30).
>
>

This is not a support department.  This is a mail list for users of
OpenOffice, where many users can help others.  Did you buy OpenOffice
from some place that passed off this mail list as "support".

You should only download OpenOffice from www.openoffice.org, where you
can get it for free.

As for file type, you can choose the type when you save the file or set
the default file type by clicking on Tools>Options>Load/Save>General and
making your selection.


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Re: Why does Apple Charge For Open Office?

[James Knott]

On 02/18/2016 02:58 AM, David Paley wrote:
> I sent a friend of mine some writing I did a couple days ago, and since she
> was having trouble opening it with the .doc extension I sent it to her
> with, I sent her another copy in the Open Office extension that I wrote it
> on. She downloaded the Apple Open Office app to read it and got told she
> needed the Premium Edition which she would have to pay for. I thought Open
> Office was a free program. Am I mistaken?
>

It is free.  Just go to www.openoffice.org and download from there. 
There are many who take OO and then sell it, often including a load of
crapware.  Some even pass off this mail list as paid support.


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Re: cant open the software

[James Knott]

On 02/16/2016 04:16 AM, Urmas wrote:
> "brian":
>
>> I downloaded the open office software, and of freakin course it wont
>> open.
>
> OpenOffice is no longer developed. Download the LibreOffice by this link:
> http://www.libreoffice.org/
> It is actively maintained and compatible with Windows 10. 

According to the web site, there was an announcement about v4.1.2 on
Oct. 28.  Sure sounds like it's still being developed to me.
 

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Re: cant open the software

[James Knott]

On 02/15/2016 07:28 PM, brian wrote:
> I downloaded the open office software, and of freakin course it wont open.
> I don’t know why every damn time when I download these supposedly free 
> software programs they never gd work!
> Can you help me get the dam thing to work?
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>

Where are you downloading from?  You should only be going to
www.openoffice.org and follow the links.  Other sites may cause you
problems or take your money.


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Re: Email.

[James Knott]

On 02/10/2016 06:36 PM, Mike Ellis wrote:
> Widows 10
> On Feb 10, 2016 18:07, "James Knott" <james.kn...@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>> On 02/10/2016 04:25 PM, Mike Ellis wrote:
>>> How do i put and email program into open office,so I can email some of
>> the
>>> work that I am writing on
>>>
>> Generally, OpenOffice uses your existing email app.  Many people use
>> Thunderbird.  What operating system are you running?
>>

On Windows, it uses whatever is your default email app.  As I mentioned,
many people use Thunderbird.


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Re: Email.

[James Knott]

On 02/11/2016 12:03 PM, Julian Thomas wrote:
> On my mac, it offers the option to send the document as a pdf.  Slick!

On Linux & Windows too.


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Re: Email.

[James Knott]

On 02/10/2016 04:25 PM, Mike Ellis wrote:
> How do i put and email program into open office,so I can email some of the
> work that I am writing on
>

Generally, OpenOffice uses your existing email app.  Many people use
Thunderbird.  What operating system are you running?

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Re: OpenOffice use

[James Knott]

On 12/30/2015 05:52 AM, Sergiu Marius wrote:
> Hello,
> I have a simple question can we use your product in our company to view
> office files?
> Regrads,
> Bratis Sergiu Marius
>

Yes.

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Re: download

[James Knott]

On 12/14/2015 04:32 AM, Alex Stillwell wrote:
> Hi 
>
> I would like to download the latest update but keep getting other material to 
> update. I am a silver surfer and would like to download just the latest Open 
> Office and then be able to add on one at a time. You have me down as a 
> business – yes, I write books and sell them but I am not a CEO or anything 
> else and do not earn sufficient to pay tax on it. And I do not see what it 
> has to do with you and why I have to give this information before 
> downloading. I would be happy to fill in a questionnaire, unfortunately I 
> find your attitude very aggressive.
>

Are you downloading from www.openoffice.org?  If not, you may be getting
something you don't want or be charged for it.  OO is a free download
and it makes no difference if you're a business or not.


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Re: version 3.1 wont open

[James Knott]

On 12/06/2015 02:12 PM, Bill and Kathy Miller wrote:
>   I have openoffice version 3.1 and cannot open it any 
> more.  Need help to correct problem.
> Bill and Kathy Miller
> b...@neo.rr.com
> windows 7

Any reason why you're not running the latest version?  4.1.2 has been
out for over a month.

You can download it from www.openoffice.org.

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Re: Bogus link

[James Knott]

On 11/11/2015 04:55 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> Because that link is leading us to sourceforge, and sourceforge's
> links go to 4.1.1

Not when I go there.

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Re: Bogus link

[James Knott]

On 11/11/2015 04:41 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 16:07:30 -0500
> Dan Margulis  wrote:
>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>
>> Only offers 4.1.1
>>
> Refresh the page or clear your browser cache
>

Why not just point them to www.openoffice.org and tell them to click on
the "I want to download Apache OpenOffice" link?  That way they know
what they're doing and also learn about other stuff on the web site.

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Re: Path settings in newer releases

[James Knott]

On 10/13/2015 04:37 PM, Donald Miller wrote:
> This is easy to set up in outlook.com

Given that Outlook is clearly a horrible email program, why should it be
used as an example for how to do things?

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Re: Short followup on my "OO Registration" situation

[James Knott]

On 09/30/2015 07:11 PM, Meg LeSchack wrote:
> Hello,
> I just received a short note from someone named James Knott via the
> conversation chain with you: /james.kn...@rogers.com/  Here's the message:
>
> I suspect you may have downloaded OpenOffice from somewhere other than
> www.openoffice.org.  There are many who take open source software, such
> as OpenOffice, and load it with crapware etc..  You're right to feel
> uncomfortable.  Someone may be trying to scam you etc..
>
> Always download only from www.openoffice.org, which will take you to an
> appropriate mirror.
>
>   Not particularly  helpful:
> a)  He doesn't tell me what group he's connected with or how he's
> connected with you. How do I know who /he/ is?

You posted on a user mail list.  I am a user.
> b)  He basically ignores the time line info in the lengthy note I sent
> you --that my OO was installed 5 years ago by my very tech-savvy
> husband, who does know the difference between original and crap
> software. Obviously that install has functioned fine until today.
Here is your original message in it's entirety.

> Today 9-30-2015 I tried to open one of my Office docs and I received a screen 
> requiring registration. What's up?
> Also, is "new" Apache OO 4.1.1 the same as the 4.1.1 I tried to install 
> several times last year and couldn't [or, being a nontech, was that edition 
> just 4.1 without .1 ?] ? 
>I have gone ahead and used the registration screen with Username, 
> supplying initials -- which I never had to before -- feeling pretty 
> uncomfortable and hoping this isn't a hack. C rikey -- Boehner resigns, blood 
> moons,  the pope, Obama and Putin appear at the UN, China & US agree to limit 
> industrial espionage, 4 days of rain after a summer of drought in New Eng., 
> just bought my first new-used car in 12 yrs, saw two double rainbows in 
> August, OO tells me I have to register -- what else is gonna happen??
>  Baffled and somewhat miffed usesr,

I don't see any mention of 5 years.  Only that you were trying to
install 4.1.1.  As someone else mentioned, there is a place to store
your info so that it's included as meta data in documents, but I didn't
get the impression that's what you were talking about.

Regardless, in all the years I've been running OO (well over a decade),
I have never, not once seen a registration screen.  However, I am aware
that some people offer OO, after it has been modified in unethical
ways.  I assumed this is what you had, as there was nothing to indicate
the source.

>If he's on your staff, tell him to ID himself, read the incoming
> message completely and carefully,  and try to offer a useful
> suggestion of what to do next.

The people on this mail list are users.  We are not "on staff".  We try
to help others with problems, but we are not on staff and not paid to do
this.  We're just volunteers.

>
> For you, a couple of questions:
>Would it behoove me to remove the current OO installation from my
> programs and reinstall OO (being careful to do it from the official
> approved valid OO site)?
> Do I assume no one at your org cares about this well-crafted
> impostor registration screen?

If you got the latest version from www.openoffice.org, there would be no
problem with uninstalling and installing the latest version.
>
> One more observation, should you care:  I just opened a doc (formerly
> .odt. now docx) that was created in *2013*. As it opened,  a screen
> appeared showing the logo for OpenOffice *4*.   Period.   I saved the
> doc successfully as .odt, Props now reflects that. Now, as with the
> few other samples I've opened and saved, there is now no opening logo
> screen. The .odt logo, btw, now looks like a paper lunch bag with the
> design larger,  gull wings white, at the top left of the fold-over.
>Out of continuing curiosity, I just opened a docx created on Aug
> 15, *2014*. There was no opening logo screen.
>
> i don't expect you to spend a lot of time on my one plaintive note.
> But I encourage you and your staff to understand that non-tech users
> are not dummies. It took me most of my day to work with this
> situation, and I guess I'd like my effort to communicate clearly to
> you folks to be acknowledged. This non-tech person does not know what
> details ARE useful to you, so I worked hard and long to try to give
> you what I thought you might need. 

Again, the people here are not staff.  We're users.  OpenOffice is
what's called "open source".  That is the source code is available to
anyone to use as they see fit.  There are developers and some companies
who contribute to the package, but most of the people on this list don't.
> I'm afraid I received Mr. Knott's reply as a polite but generic
> kiss-off, and I feel pissed. That's

Re: Why registration required for me to open my Office doc?

[James Knott]

On 09/30/2015 09:29 AM, Meg LeSchack wrote:
> Today 9-30-2015 I tried to open one of my Office docs and I received a screen 
> requiring registration. What's up?
> Also, is "new" Apache OO 4.1.1 the same as the 4.1.1 I tried to install 
> several times last year and couldn't [or, being a nontech, was that edition 
> just 4.1 without .1 ?] ? 
>I have gone ahead and used the registration screen with Username, 
> supplying initials -- which I never had to before -- feeling pretty 
> uncomfortable and hoping this isn't a hack. C rikey -- Boehner resigns, blood 
> moons,  the pope, Obama and Putin appear at the UN, China & US agree to limit 
> industrial espionage, 4 days of rain after a summer of drought in New Eng., 
> just bought my first new-used car in 12 yrs, saw two double rainbows in 
> August, OO tells me I have to register -- what else is gonna happen??
>  Baffled and somewhat miffed usesr,
> Meg LeSchackMassachusetts USA
>

I suspect you may have downloaded OpenOffice from somewhere other than
www.openoffice.org.  There are many who take open source software, such
as OpenOffice, and load it with crapware etc..  You're right to feel
uncomfortable.  Someone may be trying to scam you etc..

Always download only from www.openoffice.org, which will take you to an
appropriate mirror.




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Re: Why registration required for me to open my Office doc?

[James Knott]

On 09/30/2015 09:29 AM, Meg LeSchack wrote:
> Today 9-30-2015 I tried to open one of my Office docs and I received a screen 
> requiring registration. What's up?
> Also, is "new" Apache OO 4.1.1 the same as the 4.1.1 I tried to install 
> several times last year and couldn't [or, being a nontech, was that edition 
> just 4.1 without .1 ?] ? 
>I have gone ahead and used the registration screen with Username, 
> supplying initials -- which I never had to before -- feeling pretty 
> uncomfortable and hoping this isn't a hack. C rikey -- Boehner resigns, blood 
> moons,  the pope, Obama and Putin appear at the UN, China & US agree to limit 
> industrial espionage, 4 days of rain after a summer of drought in New Eng., 
> just bought my first new-used car in 12 yrs, saw two double rainbows in 
> August, OO tells me I have to register -- what else is gonna happen??
>  Baffled and somewhat miffed usesr,
> Meg LeSchackMassachusetts USA
>

I suspect you may have downloaded OpenOffice from somewhere other than
www.openoffice.org.  There are many who take open source software, such
as OpenOffice, and load it with crapware etc..  You're right to feel
uncomfortable.  Someone may be trying to scam you etc..

Always download only from www.openoffice.org, which will take you to an
appropriate mirror.




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Re: Email Client

[James Knott]

On 09/22/2015 11:50 AM, Iver Bigon wrote:
> HelloWill you be including a email client in your software? If so any idea 
> when?ThanksIver  

Many people use Thunderbird.  Works well.

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Re: Do you have?

[James Knott]

On 09/19/2015 05:38 PM, Ian Kirby wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been using Open Office for many years and have recommended you to many 
> people and organisations.
> One function I wish I could find with you is an e-mail program similar to MS 
> Outlook Express.
>
> If you have one please advise me how to get ti.
> If you do not have one, how about it.
>
>

Many people use Thunderbird.

BTW, I have to use Outlook at work and find it to be a piece of crap,
compared to Thunderbird.


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Re: Open Office in Windows 10

[James Knott]

Perhaps he's running as a user and is being asked for the admin's password.

BTW, contrary to common practice, users should not have admin
privileges.  They should be asked for the password when installing
software.  Otherwise they greatly compromise security and open the door
for malware.

Whenever I set up a Windows computer, I create an admin account and
another for users.  There's rarely any reason to run as admin.  This is
also the normal practice in Linux.



On 09/13/2015 01:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> I've never seen that.
>
> Please provide more details.
>
> What do you mean "authorize" -- what exactly is the message and how does it 
> come up?  
>
> Then, did you upgrade to Windows 10 [Home?] on a machine that already had 
> OpenOffice installed?
>
>  - Dennis
>
>  - Please respond to the users@openoffice.apache.org list where all 
> volunteers and other users can be supported.  I will take any direct response 
> to me as permission to forward the information to the community list as I see 
> fit.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: grnbeas...@aol.com [mailto:grnbeas...@aol.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:01
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Open Office in Windows 10
>
> How do I eliminate the need to authorize soffice.exe to run every time Open 
> Office is used?
>
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Re: Can't Install OpenOffice 4.1

[James Knott]

On 09/11/2015 04:17 PM, Sarah Genter wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm trying to install the latest version of OpenOffice. I have Windows Vista 
> and I have an .odt file I need to open. I have gone through the download 
> process twice, and it completes as far as I can tell, but then when I search 
> on my computer, I can only find the installer, not the actual software. When 
> I try to open the .odt file, it keeps taking me to the site to download the 
> OpenOffice suite.
> I meet all the system requirements as far as I can tell.
> Thank you,
> Sarah Genter


After you downloaded OpenOffice, did you run the installer?

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Re: Can't Install OpenOffice 4.1

[James Knott]

In Windows, there's generally a "Downloads" folder, located in your
folder.  Try looking there.  When you find the installer, double click
on it to run the install.  Incidentally, this is how you generally
install software on Windows.



On 09/11/2015 05:07 PM, Sarah Genter wrote:
> I guess I don't know where to find the installer. What I meant to say is that 
> when I search on my computer, all that comes up is a shortcut "Get 
> OpenOffice.org" which leads back to the website.
>
> I searched and found the installer in my list of programs, in the uninstall 
> list (control panel), and the only option it gives me there is to uninstall 
> it. I don't know where to find it to actually run it. On the uninstall list, 
> it says it was installed in 2008.
> Thanks, Sarah
>  
>
>  From: James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com>
>  To: sarah_scann...@yahoo.com 
>  Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:47 PM
>  Subject: Re: Can't Install OpenOffice 4.1
>
> On 09/11/2015 04:17 PM, Sarah Genter wrote:
>
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm trying to install the latest version of OpenOffice. I have Windows Vista 
>> and I have an .odt file I need to open. I have gone through the download 
>> process twice, and it completes as far as I can tell, but then when I search 
>> on my computer, I can only find the installer, not the actual software. When 
>> I try to open the .odt file, it keeps taking me to the site to download the 
>> OpenOffice suite.
>> I meet all the system requirements as far as I can tell.
>> Thank you,
>> Sarah Genter
>
> After you downloaded OpenOffice, did you run the installer?
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: information

[James Knott]

On 08/23/2015 08:13 PM, Linda wrote:
 hi, it seems that i have tried to install from disk open office version 3.1. 
 i have tried several times and will not install. would you please send me a 
 disk with the new version so i can start using this software. I would very 
 much appreciate it very much. please send to: Lynn Sellers, 24841 roxana, 
 eastpointe, mi 48021 (i hope i can install it on more than 1 computer.



You've posted on a mail list for OpenOffice users.   You can download
the latest version from www.openoffice.org and install from the
downloaded file.

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64 bit version?

[James Knott]

I see LibreOffice 5 is now available in a 64 bit Windows version.  Are
there any plans for a 64 bit version of OpenOffice?

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Re: An Issue

[James Knott]

On 07/28/2015 11:24 AM, Grace  Gregg Mountford wrote:
 Does Open Office need Microsoft Visual C++


No, however, one thing I learned a long time ago, was to only install
one app at a time in Windows.  Start one, let it finish, then the next,
etc..  Otherwise, it gets confused.


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Re: need help opening openoffice

[James Knott]

On 07/23/2015 08:17 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
 If they have half a brain they will.

Well, they are Mac users.  They need things dumbed down.  ;-)

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Re: need help

[James Knott]

On 07/13/2015 03:07 PM, Katharine Richardson wrote:
 I stated my problem and got a response from Brian Baker.  I still have
 trouble, so I tried again.  This morning I received a snotty, smart-ass
 letter from Brian Baker, insulting and belittling me.  I may be old and not
 very computer savvy, but I do not deserve this.  I am used to better
 manners and more helpful support systems.   I will not be communicating
 with Brian Baker again, which is probably what he had hoped for.  I will
 just have to find some other way. Katharine


Hi Katharine.

I don't seem to have your original message.  Was it posted in the past
week?  Perhaps you can repost it.

This is an open mail list, for users of OpenOffice.  Sometimes, some
less than desirable people get on here.



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Re: Phone Call

[James Knott]

On 07/08/2015 06:16 AM, David Rivers wrote:
 I think whistle blowing can actually physically damage the callers
 eardrum, even permanently.

Not a chance.  A phone has very limited dynamic range, which means
there's a maximum level a phone can produce.


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Re: Phone Call

[James Knott]

On 07/07/2015 06:13 PM, Mike B. Martisko wrote:
 I just received a phone call from someone claiming to be from Apache, wanting 
 to scan my computer, and install new drivers for the software I have.  Open 
 Office, 4.01.  Is this a valid call?  Please respond.

One thing you can be sure of is when anyone calls you claiming to be
Apache, Microsoft, your ISP etc., it's a scam where they're trying to
install malware on your computer.  I have had calls from Microsoft
about problems on my computer.  Funny thing is, I run Linux.  I have let
them run their line, where they tell me to click on the Start button
etc.  I then play dumb and tell them I can't see a Start button...  I
have a bit of fun that way, before they finally give up.  ;-)



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Re: Fwd: Product Licenses: Microsoft, iWork iLife [ ref:_00Dd0e12r._500U0L2WsT:ref ]

[James Knott]

On 06/28/2015 12:50 AM, Michelle Ngome wrote:
 Hello,

 My MacBook Pro hard drive crashed causing me to loose the software on my
 laptop and I no longer have the disc due to a Houston flood. Is there
 anyway to retrieve my information or anything for me to receive a new disc
 or product key?



This mail list is for OpenOffice. You can download it for free from
www.openoffice.org.  You don't need a disc or key.  You just download it
and install.  OpenOffice is a full office suite that's compatible with
Microsoft Office formats, along with the Open Document Formats.  I hope
it meets your needs.


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Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user

[James Knott]

On 06/26/2015 11:45 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 Apache OpenOffice is not bug free of course, but so far it didn't destroy
 any of my files.

We can fix that.  ;-)

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Re: Question re/ using Open Office

[James Knott]

On 06/26/2015 09:19 AM, Richard Fox wrote:
 Thanks again for your help. If you ever figure out a way to open MS
 files with open as, please let me know. In the meantime, I have a
 workable solution. 


I just checked with Windows 10.   I normally use Windows 7, when I have
to use Windows.  W10 is different in that the apps do not appear to be
automatically added as an app registered to open a file type.  Instead,
it's necessary to click on Open with  Choose another app and then
choose the app from Other Options and also select Always use this
app  However, even after selecting that, the app will not appear in
the Open with list, though it is the default.  I guess this is
Microsoft's way to discourage competitor software.  I suspect W8 is the
same as W10 in this respect.


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Re: Question re/ using Open Office

[James Knott]

On 06/26/2015 12:01 PM, Richard Fox wrote:
 I've considered trying Linux, but I'm afraid that I have too many
 programs that I rely on that won't be available.
There's a couple of things you can do.  Many Windows apps can run in
something called wine or the commercial version, CrossOver Office. 
The other, as I do, is to run a virtual machine.  For example, on this
computer, I've got both Windows 7 and 10 running in VirtualBox virtual
machines.  With W7, I have access to my disks and can use cut 'n paste
between Linux and Windows.  However, VirtualBox isn't quite up to speed
with W10, so I have to use a network share to access my files on Linux.


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Re: problems downloading OpenOffice

[James Knott]

On 06/26/2015 08:28 PM, Heidi Lasher-Oakes wrote:
 I was unable to download a non-broken copy of OpenOffice today.  I followed
 the instructions on this http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
 checksums page.  Here is the information requested:



I just downloaded the deb version and verified it with md5sum.  It was
quite easy to do.  After downloading the file, enter md5sum
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz and
compare the results with the listed md5sum on the md5 link.  It's that easy.

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Re: Question re/ using Open Office

[James Knott]

On 06/26/2015 12:06 AM, Robert Jackson wrote:
 The first computer we owned was a MITS Altair 8800 - 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_8800 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_8800


Here's the IMSAI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSAI_8080

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Re: Question re/ using Open Office

[James Knott]

On 06/26/2015 01:08 AM, Dale Erwin wrote:
 Do they still make mainframes?

Yes, but these days they're clusters of thousands of CPUs, usually
running Linux.

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Re: warning - Editor Wars!!!--how about some heresy on behalf of the Joe 6-Pack word processor user

[James Knott]

On 06/25/2015 01:05 PM, Julian Thomas wrote:
 I would love to learn to use styles; unfortunately there are no books for OO 
 4, and the tutorials are not much help.  Has anyone written a good 
 introductory 'how to' guide?


While it's a bit dated, there's OpenOffice.org 2 Guidebook, by Solveig
Haugland.  It has a 30 page chapter on styles.

http://www.amazon.com/The-OpenOffice-org-Guidebook-Solveig-Haugland/dp/0974312029

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