Re: Re: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Formsbirds]

To Whom It May Concern,

Can you please re-enable the account susie...@yandex.com? We need to clean up 
as soon as possible. Please help me with this, and thank you.


Regards,
Katie.

 On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:00:50 -0700 Formsbirds 
supp...@formbirds.com wrote  

Hello,

Thank for your kind response. 


We prefer to re-enable our account susie...@yandex.com. Since you are busy with 
the new revision release, We will clean up the templates by ourselves. Please 
just recover the account.
Thank you very much!


Regards,
Katie Williams

 On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:54:16 -0700 Andrea Pescetti 
pesce...@apache.org wrote  

On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote: 
 Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites 
which are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC. 
 Can someone help? 
 
As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have 
access as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove content. 
 
Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get their 
templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse will 
penalize them in search engines. 
 
Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they clean 
up after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't have time 
to look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - possibly next week, 
but if they really are in a hurry they might want to take care of this 
themselves as soon as possible. Formbirds, if you prefer this option 
just tell us. 
 
Regards, 
 Andrea. 

Re: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Formsbirds]

Hello,

Thank for your kind response. 


We prefer to re-enable our account susie...@yandex.com. Since you are busy with 
the new revision release, We will clean up the templates by ourselves. Please 
just recover the account.
Thank you very much!


Regards,
Katie Williams

 On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:54:16 -0700 Andrea Pescetti 
pesce...@apache.org wrote  

On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote: 
 Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites 
which are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC. 
 Can someone help? 
 
As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have 
access as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove content. 
 
Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get their 
templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse will 
penalize them in search engines. 
 
Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they clean 
up after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't have time 
to look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - possibly next week, 
but if they really are in a hurry they might want to take care of this 
themselves as soon as possible. Formbirds, if you prefer this option 
just tell us. 
 
Regards, 
 Andrea. 

Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Martin Groenescheij]

To my honest opinion the template website is one big mess, over 23 
thousand templates

from which many are menu cards, price lists and store locators.
I believe Google is the place to find this type of information.
Templates should be templates and not an alternative to advertise products.

Probably submitters should periodically confirm the validity of the 
template and if not

confirmed go into archive mode.

On 28/09/16 9:54 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote:
Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions 
sites which are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache 
OpenOffice PMC.

Can someone help?


As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have 
access as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove 
content.


Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get 
their templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse 
will penalize them in search engines.


Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they 
clean up after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't 
have time to look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - 
possibly next week, but if they really are in a hurry they might want 
to take care of this themselves as soon as possible. Formbirds, if you 
prefer this option just tell us.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Roberto Galoppini]

2016-09-28 1:54 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti :

> On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote:
>
>> Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites
>> which are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC.
>> Can someone help?
>>
>
> As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have access
> as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove content.
>
> Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get their
> templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse will penalize
> them in search engines.
>

I concur to that, I've seen similar requests coming from hundreds of open
source projects in my past business life. Let's be very clear about what
the problem REALLY is:

1. "SEO experts" got hired, lots of links get set here and there
2. The customer realize via Google search tools that hurt THEM
3. They ask you to clean up their own garbage
4. Classic mantra: by cleaning your site your Google karma will benefit

Now, those links do not affect AOOE/T Google karma in any measurable
manner, and considering that those templates are of little interest to our
audience (0 downloads) I believe that also associated links don't get
clicked.



>
> Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they clean up
> after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't have time to
> look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - possibly next week, but
> if they really are in a hurry they might want to take care of this
> themselves as soon as possible.


Let's leave to them to clean them up, we probably just need to give their
spammer account the possibility to do so. Interesting to notice the account
was suspended, all in all anti-spam measures have been improved! ;-)

Roberto



> Formbirds, if you prefer this option just tell us.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 24/09/2016 Dave Fisher wrote:

Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites which 
are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC.
Can someone help?


As I wrote to the dev list last month, a number of PMC members have 
access as moderators. So I think any of us (me included) can remove content.


Still, we are wasting our time to help a self-admitted abuser get their 
templates removed since they discovered their voluntary abuse will 
penalize them in search engines.


Wouldn't it make more sense if the account is re-enabled and they clean 
up after themselves? This could speed things up, since I won't have time 
to look into this before version 4.1.3 is released - possibly next week, 
but if they really are in a hurry they might want to take care of this 
themselves as soon as possible. Formbirds, if you prefer this option 
just tell us.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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RE: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

The WHOIS only provides the registration for the base domain name, in this case 
openoffice.org.

This is about who has the domain-name lease, not where the content is or how it 
is hosted.

In this particular case, templates.openoffice.org, a subdomain, forwards to a 
location on SourceForge.  The WHOIS tell you nothing about subdomains.  They 
are not registered.

Also, Apache Infrastructure is not about management of content, but providing 
the basic service.  In this case, the www.apache.org web site and also the 
subdomain setup.  But the content is either under control of the Apache 
OpenOffice project or, when forwarded to a different organization, under some 
sort of mutual operation.  Templates and Extensions are in the second category. 
 

Patricia Shanahan, on dev@, has identified a contact at SourceForge that this 
can be worked on with, and further discussion should be on dev@ where such 
technicalities are dealt with.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: DaveMainwaring [mailto:davemainwar...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:12
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at
> Openoffice
> 
> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en
> openoffice.org registry whois Updated 1 second ago - Refresh Domain ID:
> D7200454-LROR
> WHOIS Server:
[ ... ]
> > The Apache OpenOffice PMC has authority.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:07 PM, toki  wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 25/09/2016 01:26, Dave Fisher wrote:
> > >> These sites are not hosted on Apache infrastructure.
> > >
> > > I hadn't realized that not only is
> > > http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en hosted on servers
> controlled
> > > by, and maintained by SourceForge, but that Apache  Infra had zero
> > > authority over what happens there.
> > >
> > > jonathon
> > >
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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[DaveMainwaring]

http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en
openoffice.org registry whois Updated 1 second ago - Refresh Domain ID:
D7200454-LROR
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL: www.domain.com
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On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> The Apache OpenOffice PMC has authority.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:07 PM, toki  wrote:
> >
> >> On 25/09/2016 01:26, Dave Fisher wrote:
> >> These sites are not hosted on Apache infrastructure.
> >
> > I hadn't realized that not only is
> > http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en hosted on servers controlled
> > by, and maintained by SourceForge, but that Apache  Infra had zero
> > authority over what happens there.
> >
> > jonathon
> >
> >
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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Dave Fisher]

The Apache OpenOffice PMC has authority.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:07 PM, toki  wrote:
> 
>> On 25/09/2016 01:26, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> These sites are not hosted on Apache infrastructure.
> 
> I hadn't realized that not only is
> http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en hosted on servers controlled
> by, and maintained by SourceForge, but that Apache  Infra had zero
> authority over what happens there.
> 
> jonathon
> 
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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[toki]

On 25/09/2016 01:26, Dave Fisher wrote:
> These sites are not hosted on Apache infrastructure.

I hadn't realized that not only is
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en hosted on servers controlled
by, and maintained by SourceForge, but that Apache  Infra had zero
authority over what happens there.

jonathon


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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Dave Fisher]

These sites are not hosted on Apache infrastructure. They are hosted for the 
project by SourceForge. See my prior email. Contact the DEV list.

FYI - I am on the PMC and also an Apache Member. I did the bulk of the 
OpenOffice.org migration and know where the subdomains were pointed.

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 4:50 PM, toki  wrote:
> 
>> On 24/09/2016 03:24, Formsbirds wrote:
>> 
>> I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
>> site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely. 
>> We found thousands of links pointed to our site from 
>> templates.openoffice.org.
> 
> My recommendation is that you:
> * Contact infra directly;
> * List each page in which links to your site can be found;
> 
> FWIW, the templates in question appear to be PDF files, and as such, are
> not usable as is, with either Write or Calc. As such, they probably
> should be deleted from http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en.
> 
> jonathon
> 
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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[toki]

On 24/09/2016 03:24, Formsbirds wrote:

> I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
> site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely. 
> We found thousands of links pointed to our site from 
> templates.openoffice.org. 

My recommendation is that you:
* Contact infra directly;
* List each page in which links to your site can be found;

FWIW, the templates in question appear to be PDF files, and as such, are
not usable as is, with either Write or Calc. As such, they probably
should be deleted from http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en.

jonathon




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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites which 
are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC.

Can someone help?

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:34 AM, James Knott  wrote:
> 
> You sent this to a mail list for users of Apache Open Office.  We have
> nothing to do with the web site.
> 
> 
>> On 09/23/2016 11:24 PM, Formsbirds wrote:
>> Dear Webmaster,
>> 
>> I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
>> site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely. 
>> We found thousands of links pointed to our site from 
>> templates.openoffice.org. The links are under an account named 
>> susie...@yandex.com.
>> This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates shared 
>> to more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates to 
>> your site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside.
>> Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually bad 
>> to our site. 
>> We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user account 
>> susie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked and 
>> they couldn't log in to delete the links.
>> We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to those 
>> links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the 
>> documents that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful 
>> to users, but please delete the links pointed to our site.
>> Katie Williams
>> Formsbirds.com
> 
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RE: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC users@openoffice.apache.org]

> -Original Message-
> From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 05:35
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; supp...@formbirds.com
> Subject: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at
> Openoffice
> 
> You sent this to a mail list for users of Apache Open Office.  We have
> nothing to do with the web site.
[orcmid] 

http://templates.openoffice.org is definitely found at the web site that is 
operated by the Apache OpenOffice project.  It makes sense that the project 
would be contacted.

However, the templates portion is operated by SourceForge.   

Unfortunately, this page is not helpful enough:
.

Someone who knows more about how to change entries or to delete them needs to 
be involved.

I am moving this to dev@ openoffice.org where it is more likely someone can 
help.

 - Dennis



> 
> 
> On 09/23/2016 11:24 PM, Formsbirds wrote:
> > Dear Webmaster,
> >
> > I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed
> to my site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely.
> > We found thousands of links pointed to our site from
> templates.openoffice.org. The links are under an account named
> susie...@yandex.com.
> > This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates
> shared to more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our
> templates to your site. But they are too aggressive and put too many
> links inside.
> > Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually
> bad to our site.
> > We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user
> account susie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been
> blocked and they couldn't log in to delete the links.
> > We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to
> those links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep
> the documents that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate
> useful to users, but please delete the links pointed to our site.
> > Katie Williams
> > Formsbirds.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[James Knott]

You sent this to a mail list for users of Apache Open Office.  We have
nothing to do with the web site.


On 09/23/2016 11:24 PM, Formsbirds wrote:
> Dear Webmaster,
>
> I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
> site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely. 
> We found thousands of links pointed to our site from 
> templates.openoffice.org. The links are under an account named 
> susie...@yandex.com.
> This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates shared 
> to more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates to 
> your site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside.
> Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually bad to 
> our site. 
> We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user account 
> susie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked and they 
> couldn't log in to delete the links.
> We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to those 
> links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the documents 
> that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful to users, 
> but please delete the links pointed to our site.
> Katie Williams
> Formsbirds.com
>
>
>
>
>


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Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[Formsbirds]

Dear Webmaster,

I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely. 
We found thousands of links pointed to our site from templates.openoffice.org. 
The links are under an account named susie...@yandex.com.
This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates shared to 
more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates to your 
site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside.
Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually bad to 
our site. 
We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user account 
susie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked and they 
couldn't log in to delete the links.
We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to those 
links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the documents 
that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful to users, but 
please delete the links pointed to our site.
Katie Williams
Formsbirds.com