Transition to OpenOffice Writer

2013-02-06 Thread Joel Ikenberry

To Whom It May Concern:
I have been adjusting to OpenOffice Writer for a few weeks after losing my 
Microsoft Word application, and I hope you can imagine how frustrated and 
confused I am with this new software. As Microsoft Word is what I know, I 
naturally approached Writer like I would Word. However, there are stark and 
considerable differences between Writer and Word that I have inevitably 
encountered. For example, there is apparently no vertical paragraph alignment 
option in Writer, but there is in Word. As a writer, there are many essential 
tools and options that I need from my word processor that I am not finding or 
having trouble finding. I do refer to OpenOffice Wiki and the Help Tool, 
however, there are many things the Wiki and the Help Tool do not explain. For 
example, they do not explain how to apply a certain page-style. I only stumbled 
across the fact that a page-style can only be applied by inserting a manual 
page break. 
I am struggling with how to format my documents to display various 
page-numbers. I am a novelist and any guides I discover only pertain their 
information to technical and business-style document formats. For example, the 
guides on headers always go into great detail about customizing your header 
and skip over the essential simple how-to-make a normal, average everyday 
header that is not going to be viewed by a company CEO or graded by a business 
education instructor. I am simply a writer writing a novel, and I need my word 
processor to apply to me specifically.
Here is what I need to know how to do:
1. Format different page numbers- Title Page (no number)- Dedication Page (no 
number)- Table of Contents (roman numerals)- Preface (roman numerals)- Prologue 
through all chapters ( starting at page 1)- Acknowledgments (continuing page 
numbers)- Appendices/Index (continuing page numbers)2. Create a traditional 
Table of Contents (like in any other novel, no business topics or sections and 
complete with a leader)3. Design headers to display book name on one page, 
chapter title on the next, continuously4. Vertically align a paragraph
Any information regarding these issues would be most certainly appreciated and 
duly acknowledged. I am new to OpenOffice Writer, but I know I will be just 
fine with it once I get my bearings. I also have another question concerning 
file format and extensions. As a writer, I will have to eventually 
electronically submit part or all of my manuscript to a Literary Agent and or 
Publisher at some point and so the file extension will need to be in a format 
usable by these organizations' software (most likely Word). Is the ODT file 
format compatible with Word or do I need to save my documents under a different 
format? This, above all else, is perhaps the most important question because 
the others are useless without the file being able to proceed. I thank you very 
much for your time, consideration, all manners of things and especially for the 
development and availability of this software to simple people like myself. 
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Joel S. Ikenberry 

RE: Transition to OpenOffice Writer

2013-02-06 Thread Doug Hovelson
Yes I too am interested in this topic. Headers and footers are a major 
OpenOffice weakness. I gave up and subscribed to the Microsoft Office online 
service for Word but I'm willing to learn new OpenOffice tricks too.

Doug Hovelson 
















  From: joel_ikenbe...@live.com
 To: users@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Transition to OpenOffice Writer
 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 06:50:16 -0600
 
 
 To Whom It May Concern:
 I have been adjusting to OpenOffice Writer for a few weeks after losing my 
 Microsoft Word application, and I hope you can imagine how frustrated and 
 confused I am with this new software. As Microsoft Word is what I know, I 
 naturally approached Writer like I would Word. However, there are stark and 
 considerable differences between Writer and Word that I have inevitably 
 encountered. For example, there is apparently no vertical paragraph 
 alignment option in Writer, but there is in Word. As a writer, there are 
 many essential tools and options that I need from my word processor that I am 
 not finding or having trouble finding. I do refer to OpenOffice Wiki and the 
 Help Tool, however, there are many things the Wiki and the Help Tool do not 
 explain. For example, they do not explain how to apply a certain page-style. 
 I only stumbled across the fact that a page-style can only be applied by 
 inserting a manual page break. 
 I am struggling with how to format my documents to display various 
 page-numbers. I am a novelist and any guides I discover only pertain their 
 information to technical and business-style document formats. For example, 
 the guides on headers always go into great detail about customizing your 
 header and skip over the essential simple how-to-make a normal, average 
 everyday header that is not going to be viewed by a company CEO or graded by 
 a business education instructor. I am simply a writer writing a novel, and I 
 need my word processor to apply to me specifically.
 Here is what I need to know how to do:
 1. Format different page numbers- Title Page (no number)- Dedication Page (no 
 number)- Table of Contents (roman numerals)- Preface (roman numerals)- 
 Prologue through all chapters ( starting at page 1)- Acknowledgments 
 (continuing page numbers)- Appendices/Index (continuing page numbers)2. 
 Create a traditional Table of Contents (like in any other novel, no business 
 topics or sections and complete with a leader)3. Design headers to display 
 book name on one page, chapter title on the next, continuously4. Vertically 
 align a paragraph
 Any information regarding these issues would be most certainly appreciated 
 and duly acknowledged. I am new to OpenOffice Writer, but I know I will be 
 just fine with it once I get my bearings. I also have another question 
 concerning file format and extensions. As a writer, I will have to eventually 
 electronically submit part or all of my manuscript to a Literary Agent and or 
 Publisher at some point and so the file extension will need to be in a format 
 usable by these organizations' software (most likely Word). Is the ODT file 
 format compatible with Word or do I need to save my documents under a 
 different format? This, above all else, is perhaps the most important 
 question because the others are useless without the file being able to 
 proceed. I thank you very much for your time, consideration, all manners of 
 things and especially for the development and availability of this software 
 to simple people like myself. Thank you.
 Sincerely,
 Joel S. Ikenberry   
  

Re: Transition to OpenOffice Writer

2013-02-06 Thread Dan Lewis

On 02/06/2013 07:50 AM, Joel Ikenberry wrote:

To Whom It May Concern:
I have been adjusting to OpenOffice Writer for a few weeks after losing my Microsoft Word 
application, and I hope you can imagine how frustrated and confused I am with this new 
software. As Microsoft Word is what I know, I naturally approached Writer like I would 
Word. However, there are stark and considerable differences between Writer and Word that 
I have inevitably encountered. For example, there is apparently no vertical 
paragraph alignment option in Writer, but there is in Word. As a writer, there are 
many essential tools and options that I need from my word processor that I am not finding 
or having trouble finding. I do refer to OpenOffice Wiki and the Help Tool, however, 
there are many things the Wiki and the Help Tool do not explain. For example, they do not 
explain how to apply a certain page-style. I only stumbled across the fact that a 
page-style can only be applied by inserting a manual page break.
I am struggling with how to format my documents to display various page-numbers. I am a novelist 
and any guides I discover only pertain their information to technical and business-style document 
formats. For example, the guides on headers always go into great detail about 
customizing your header and skip over the essential simple how-to-make a normal, 
average everyday header that is not going to be viewed by a company CEO or graded by a business 
education instructor. I am simply a writer writing a novel, and I need my word processor to apply 
to me specifically.
Here is what I need to know how to do:
1. Format different page numbers- Title Page (no number)- Dedication Page (no 
number)- Table of Contents (roman numerals)- Preface (roman numerals)- Prologue 
through all chapters ( starting at page 1)- Acknowledgments (continuing page 
numbers)- Appendices/Index (continuing page numbers)2. Create a traditional 
Table of Contents (like in any other novel, no business topics or sections and 
complete with a leader)3. Design headers to display book name on one page, 
chapter title on the next, continuously4. Vertically align a paragraph
Any information regarding these issues would be most certainly appreciated and 
duly acknowledged. I am new to OpenOffice Writer, but I know I will be just 
fine with it once I get my bearings. I also have another question concerning 
file format and extensions. As a writer, I will have to eventually 
electronically submit part or all of my manuscript to a Literary Agent and or 
Publisher at some point and so the file extension will need to be in a format 
usable by these organizations' software (most likely Word). Is the ODT file 
format compatible with Word or do I need to save my documents under a different 
format? This, above all else, is perhaps the most important question because 
the others are useless without the file being able to proceed. I thank you very 
much for your time, consideration, all manners of things and especially for the 
development and availability of this software to simple people like myself. 
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Joel S. Ikenberry   

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/OOo3.3_User_Guide_Chapters

 This is a  link to the User Guides for Apache OpenOffice. From 
here you can download individual chapters or the entire guide. From the 
Getting Started Guide, I recommend downloading chapters 2 and 3. I also 
recommend downloading the entire Writer Guide (Full Book choice) given 
for what you are now using Apache Office.
 The two chapters on styles in the Writer Guide are very important. 
Vertical alignment of text is a property of the paragraph styles. 
Changing page styles is discussed  in detail. This includes telling you 
when you need a page break to change page styles and when you don't.


--Dan


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Re: Transition to OpenOffice Writer

2013-02-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 06:50 06/02/2013 -0600, Joel Ikenberry wrote:
... there are stark and considerable differences between Writer and 
Word that I have inevitably encountered. For example, there is 
apparently no vertical paragraph alignment option in Writer, but 
there is in Word.


o Put your paragraph into a frame.
o Anchor the frame to the page.
o On the Type tab of the Frame dialogue, under Position, for Vertical 
select Center and then to Entire page or Page text area as preferred.


... there are many things the Wiki and the Help Tool do not explain. 
For example, they do not explain how to apply a certain page-style. 
I only stumbled across the fact that a page-style can only be 
applied by inserting a manual page break.


You can apply a page style in various ways.  You can change page 
styles within a document at a manual page break, but this is not the 
only way.  You can set a Next Style on the Organizer tab of a page 
style; this will cause a page style change when text flows naturally 
to the following page.


I am struggling with how to format my documents to display various 
page-numbers.  [...]

Here is what I need to know how to do:
1. Format different page numbers- Title Page (no number)- Dedication 
Page (no number)- Table of Contents (roman numerals)- Preface (roman 
numerals)- Prologue through all chapters ( starting at page 1)- 
Acknowledgments (continuing page numbers)- Appendices/Index 
(continuing page numbers)


Proper page numbering is a property of headers or footers.  These are 
a property of page styles, so you will need to use separate page 
styles for each separately numbered section.  You can use built-in 
styles or create your own.  In this case, you will want to change 
page styles at manual page breaks, as you suggest.  You will notice 
that there is a facility to reset the page counter when inserting 
manual page breaks; you will want to do this so that your table of 
contents and main body start at i and 1 respectively, not at their 
true page numbers.


2. Create a traditional Table of Contents (like in any other novel, 
no business topics or sections and complete with a leader)


Go to Insert | Indexes and Tables | Indexes and Tables... and choose 
Table of Contents.


3. Design headers to display book name on one page, chapter title on 
the next, continuously


I think you will need separate page styles for rectos and 
versos.  The built-in Left Page and Right Page page styles may 
suffice, but with each set to have the other as Next Page.  (There 
may be other ways of doing this.)  You can use fields to insert such 
information as chapter titles, much as you would page numbers.



4. Vertically align a paragraph


Either use Spacing on the Indents  Spacing tab of the paragraph or 
paragraph style dialogue, or use a frame, as above.


I also have another question concerning file format and extensions. 
As a writer, I will have to eventually electronically submit part or 
all of my manuscript to a Literary Agent and or Publisher at some 
point and so the file extension will need to be in a format usable 
by these organizations' software (most likely Word). Is the ODT file 
format compatible with Word or do I need to save my documents under 
a different format?


The first answer to that question is to keep your text documents in 
OpenOffice's native .odt format and go back to those when you need to 
edit further.  Convert to other formats only when you need to send a 
copy to others.  I'll leave others to answer the main part of this 
question, though the answer may be simply to ask the literary agent 
or publisher what they need.  The literary agent will likely be able 
to advise you what a publisher would need.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: Transition to OpenOffice ­Writer

2013-02-06 Thread johnny smith
On Wednesday, 6 February 2013, at 13:30:50, Joel Ikenberry 
joel_ikenbe...@live.com wrote:

 Here is what I need to know how to do:
 1. Format different page numbers- Title Page (no number)- Dedication Page (no 
 number)- Table of Contents (roman numerals)- Preface (roman numerals)- 
 Prologue through all chapters ( starting at page 1)- Acknowledgments 
 (continuing page numbers)- Appendices/Index (continuing page numbers)
 2. Create a traditional Table of Contents (like in any other novel, no 
 business topics or sections and complete with a leader)
 3. Design headers to display book name on one page, chapter title on the 
 next, continuously
 4. Vertically align a paragraph

the attached file is an example of handling points 1--3 (i really hope the 
attachment would reach at least the poster himself, if not the list). every 
paragraph, except placeholders in parentheses, has been assigned a custom style 
(see 'format/styles and formatting' and choose 'custom styles' from the 
drop-down list), and so have been the pages.


SampleBook.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text

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