> some of you asked about feature set of Virtuzzo 7 and difference between free
> and commercial versions. We have prepared table with feature comparison for
> OpenVZ -stable, Virtuozzo 7 and other virtualization solutions -
> https://openvz.org/Comparison
>
> Pay attention it is not a final
The point is that in your use case ZFS works very well and saves you 1TB of
disk space. Great for you. For my use case the overhead of learning and
deploying ZFS greatly outweighs the handful of GBs I might potentially save in
disk space.
Don't get me wrong, but zfs is totally simply to use
we want find people who still use simfs for OpenVZ containers.
Do we have such users?
All proxmox VE users (as we do not have ploop support).
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Unless I misunderstood, they also say there that ZFS code can be merged into
the Linux source tree... but that distributing a binary built from it would be
a no-no.
They claim distributing as binary module is no problem! They have split the code
into spl (Solaris porting Layer), and a
I know Proxmox is a huge Debian fan... does Debian offer ZFS kernel modules
and if not, why not? How about Proxmox VE?
Besides, I would like to improve support for more storage types on OpenVZ.
I think direct support for zfs, rbd, dm-thin would be great (snaphshot, clone).
But for me the
Apparently Proxmox guys patched the kernel. Could you please
1 ask them to provide the patch
2 file a bug to bugzilla.openvz.org
Hi Kir,
this patch is here:
https://git.proxmox.com/?p=pve-kernel-2.6.32.git;a=blob;f=bridge-patch.diff;h=6780d621ec1411352fe11f0e573fb53da57c3812;hb=HEAD
I just
Just downloaded the new stable kernel:
http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel6/042stab053.5
But the last changelog entry is:
%changelog
* Thu Jan 19 2012 Frantisek Hrbata fhrb...@redhat.com [2.6.32-220.4.1.el6]
I thought this should be 2.6.32-220.7.1.el6? So what version is that kernel
: [Users] Proc statistic interface for venet
This is how I get traffic data...
[root@xc7 ubc]# grep venet0 /proc/net/dev
venet0:205043590448 1030583416000 0 0 0
199946969183 10428423760 14520 0 0 0
[root@xc7 ubc]#
Dietmar Maurer
Each container has one also...for example for VEID=17801
Oh, so I do not need to call 'vzctl exec' to get that data?
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Why? Save time and effort just get it directly from the hardware node as my
example shows using /vz/root/VEID/proc/net/dev.
Well, that file is simply not there on my system (latest openvz 2.6.32 kernel).
I can only see it inside the VM.
So what kernel do you use exactly?
- Dietmar
I'm experimenting with this now. I converted vzkernel-2.6.32-
042stab037.1.x86_64.rpm into a deb and used it to boot but AWS did not want
to run it. Complaining about XEN options. I see that the older kernel
versions had
specific XEN builds. I'm going to try and recompile the
virtbox1:~# vzctl enter 103
entered into CT 103
[r...@pxebox /]# ps aux
USER PID %CPU %MEMVSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1 0.0 0.0 2068 612 ?Ss 20:42 0:00 init [3]
root21 0.0 0.010016 ?S20:42 0:00
Newer openVZ kernels does not work well with KVM.
http://bugzilla.openvz.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1610
Br, martin
Not really true, I'm currently running
2.6.18-194.8.1.el5.028stab070.2 + kvm-83 from opennode with several
winxp amd win2003 servers for 2 weeks now without any issues.
You
I believe, 2.6.32 is just more honest on fsync and really forces drive
to save data.
We use reasonable RAID controllers with BBU here. Such controller can handle
1000 fsync/sec. So IMHO above argument does not count at all.
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Hi all,
we observe very slow fsync rates on newer 2.6.32 kernel with OpenVZ:
It is possible to reproduce the problem with sysbench:
# sysbench --test=fileio --file-num=1 --file-total-size=50G --file-fsync-all=on
--file-test-mode=seqrewr --max-time=100 --file-block-size=4096 --max-requests=0
NO, I talk about performance at the host.
From: users-boun...@openvz.org [mailto:users-boun...@openvz.org] On Behalf Of
Roberto Mello
Sent: Dienstag, 24. August 2010 14:48
To: users@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [Users] slow fsync rate
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Dietmar Maurer
diet
$ wget http://whatismyip.org
on CTs on one server, it outputs the public IP address of the CT,
which is fine, while on the other machine it outputs the IP address of
the HN.
Any idea what is wrong?
wget downloads files - so I am not sure what you mean?
You connect to the wrong IP?
If
So far as duplicating your observations with this VNC bug, I haven't
found the time to give an Ubuntu KVM VM with SDL(X11) a try. Sorry. I
say report it as a bug to the Red Hat folks and see what they say.
Well, the bug is clearly OpenVZ related, and only occur with newer
version of OpenVZ.
Those delays are not there with previous OpenVZ kernels (seem to be
related to recent scheduler changes).
Can you reproduce it using the WindowsServer2008R2 install?
I don't have any media/licenses for Windows 2008 Server R2. Is that the only
OS affected?
As I posted before, you can also
No clock setting there either. Maybe I do have the problem but just
attributed it to remote X lag
Hi Scott,
the bug is really obvious if you use my test case over X11. The problem does
not show up if
you use the default VNC screen driver.
But if you do a WindowsServer2008R2 install you can
We run kvm on ovz kernels. But it seems that the latest ovzkernel
has problems with posix timers, so kvm mouse movement in not smooth.
By default kvm uses timer_create() and timer_settime() syscalls.
To show the behavior I use the following command:
/usr/libexec/qemu-kvm -drive
Hi all,
On the following URL http://download.swsoft.com/virtuozzo...erence/386.htm I
can read:
However, be aware that vzctl enter is a potentially dangerous command if you
have un-trusted users inside the Container. Your shell will have its file
descriptors accessible for the Container root in
when i start my container i got an error Unable to open pty: No such
file or directory.
I tried to fix it with the following:
- - copied /dev from a working comtainer
- - vzctl exec 600 update-rc.d -f udev remove
- - vzctl exec 600 'dpkg --force-depends --purge udev'
- - vzctl exec
-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@openvz.org [mailto:users-boun...@openvz.org] On
Behalf Of Cliff Wells
Sent: Dienstag, 02. Februar 2010 22:28
To: users@openvz.org
Subject: [Users] BUG: scheduling while atomic
I'm running proxmox 1.4:
Linux proxmox1 2.6.24-9-pve #1 SMP
- Dietmar Maurer diet...@proxmox.com wrote:
Sorry, but so far we only tested on Debian Lenny. But I guess it
works
on Debian Squeeze as well.
Suno, want to give that a try?
Just tested - 2.6.18 does not work with new udev (missing signalfd support).
- Dietmar
What does that mean? Well as is obvious to you, as time passes, the
number of distributions that are appropriate to use as an OpenVZ host
node is reduced... and it appears that RHEL and CentOS truly are the
best distros to recommend for the host node. As the type of fanboy I
am, that does
I'm very glad to hear that. Would you recommend that a stock Debian
user use your kernel for OpenVZ stuff? If so, I have to wonder how
well it would work on the upcoming distro releases that Suno was
talking about.
Not at all until the new RHEL will be released, because modern versions
On Jan 16, Dietmar Maurer diet...@proxmox.com wrote:
Not at all until the new RHEL will be released, because modern
versions
of udev (like the one in Debian testing/unstable) do not support
2.6.18
kernels.
Really, do you have more information on that?
The current version of udev
-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@openvz.org [mailto:users-boun...@openvz.org] On
Behalf Of Anatoly Pugachev
Sent: Dienstag, 29. Dezember 2009 10:33
To: Dietmar Maurer
Cc: users@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [Users] Seeing Boot Progress for Guest VM
Can you please tell, why
We also had problem with DRDB on that kernel. We ended up compiling
the DRBD module ourselves.
- Dietmar
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From: users-boun...@openvz.org [mailto:users-boun...@openvz.org] On
Behalf Of Aleksandar Ivanisevic
Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Dezember 2009 13:07
To:
Hi Scott,
I've seen quite a bit of interest in using KVM and OpenVZ together.
Proxmox VE has been doing this for some time but they use a 2.6.24-
based kernel. Anyone using the latest OpenVZ RHEL5-based kernel and
KVM together.
We are already testing that kernel for proxmox ve - first
Hi all,
we have done a complete rewrite of vzdump. There is not much additional
functionality for OpenVZ, mostly code cleanups.
* stop mode does not use --tmpdir anymore. So downtime is longer, but you do
not need additional space (as requested by many users)
* no more --restore option
Sorry, forget my last answer. I guess the problem is your locale setting. Try
to run with LANG=C
- Dietmar
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From: users-boun...@openvz.org [mailto:users-boun...@openvz.org] On
Behalf Of Dietmar Maurer
Sent: Mittwoch, 02. September 2009 15:59
To: users@openvz.org
Hello, list. I've been using OpenVZ since last year. Now I'd like to
configure the cluster I've been using to use remote storage, so that
migrations do not require to copy the container's filesystem.
Reading the wiki and the forum, I've learned that NFS is not
recommended, but I don't know
vzvdump snapshot doesn't work at fresh proxmox install :
proxmox:~# vzdump --snapshot --compress --dumpdir /backup 101
INFO: Starting new backup job - vzdump --snapshot --compress
--dumpdir /backup 101
INFO: Starting Backup of VM 101 (qemu)
INFO: status = running
ERROR: unable to detect
I have upload the new version which fixes that problem.
http://www.proxmox.com/cms_proxmox/en/virtualization/openvz/vzdump/
- Dietmar
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From: Gregory M. Turner [mailto:g...@malth.us]
Sent: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2009 22:42
To: users@openvz.org; Dietmar Maurer
Subject
What kernel patch do I need to get --swappages working with
http://git.openvz.org/?p=ubuntu-hardy-openvz;a=summary
Or isn't that possible?
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The
VETH_IP_ADDRESS and VE_DEFAULT_GATEWAY statements don't seem to have
any
effect
OpenVZ does not have that functionality. IP setup inside the CT is
only implemented for venet.
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One of them have 12 VEs, not CPU intensive, and we are having this
load:
You don't mention what you have for disks. On Linux the load average
includes processes blocking on I/O. A slow disk setup can cause a
high
load.
But then 'wa' would show a higher value.
- Dietmar
What is we simple add 'private' IPs after visible IPs?
That would make me happy, at least for my current setup. Although it's
possible that someone might have a more complicated internal network,
where some RFC1918 network is NATed to the outside world, but others
not. It would not be
Even no well defined API for job automation
(http://forum.openvz.org/index.php?t=msggoto=10694;)
I my opinion there is an API - called 'vzctl'
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Have you found the reason?
no, unfortunately not.
It seems strange from my point of view.
cmd =80041272 should be BLKGETSIZE64_32
Seems in your case the call chain is:
compat_sys_ioctl - compat_ioctl_error - compat_printk(ioctl32
...)
But IMHO it should be
---8---
compat_sys_ioctl:
It may be some another ioctl. Could you please check mount version
inside your
container? Then you can grep all ioctls in mount sources and found
this
place.
Hi Vasily,
I just found the error - I forgot to close a filehandle in my
init-logger patch.
So everything works now.
many thanks for
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but given that you have only one
interface, I
don't think that routing can affect address binding (which happens
waaay before
the kernel gets to routing any packets).
What is we simple add 'private' IPs after visible IPs?
- Dietmar
Hi all,
I am testing the newest ubuntu hardy openvz kernel (amd64).
git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git
When I start a container I get the following errors:
Jan 8 10:43:12 oahu kernel: ioctl32(mount:886): Unknown cmd fd(4)
cmd(80041272){t:12;sz:4} arg(bfaf9f48) on /
Jan 8
I have the same behavior. It works on the HN, but inside the CT there is no nat
table:
# cat /proc/net/ip_tables_names
mangle
filter
no idea why.
-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@openvz.org [mailto:users-boun...@openvz.org] On
Behalf Of Pongracz Istvan
Sent: Donnerstag, 08.
Where can I find the information regarding the directories and files
which
each VE take from the HN ? which means files and directories are not
taken
from inside the VE and those directories and files are virtual from the
HN.
AFAIK there are no such files, but some files get modified. Maybe
I read that manpage multiple times, trying to figure out what exactly
happens when. It states that specifying INADDR_ANY is equivalent to
not
calling bind() at all before connect(). However if you read closely,
it
does not state the semantics of such situation for active sockets
(i.e. sockets
How does adding an additional setting like PRIMARY_IP help? Instead
you can simply change the order of IP_ADDRESS. What is the difference?
- Dietmar
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From: users-boun...@openvz.org [mailto:users-boun...@openvz.org] On
Behalf Of Marcin Owsiany
Sent: Samstag, 03.
But what is with devices added with --devnodes ? Does that still work
if udev starts?
- Dietmar
diff --git a/addons/vz-MAKEDEV/40-vz-misc.nodes b/addons/vz-MAKEDEV/40-
vz-misc.nodes
new file mode 100644
index 000..8b49c26
--- /dev/null
+++ b/addons/vz-MAKEDEV/40-vz-misc.nodes
@@ -0,0
Hi all,
here is a slightly improved version. It work now with sysvinit and
upstart.
Any change to get that merged into upstream code?
- Dietmar
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From: Dietmar Maurer
Sent: Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 14:36
To: users@openvz.org
Subject: another init-logger patch
Hi all,
I just moved our asterisk installation into a container. Everything
worked well
besides the ztdummy timer device.
After some debugging it turns out that it is a 64bit/32bit problem.
My host is an amd64 debian etch (Proxmox VE).
Container: debian lenny 32bit - fails
Container: debian
This one uses BSD pseudo terminal - seem to work much better that the
previous 'fifo' approach.
What do you think?
- Dietmar
vzctl.diff
Description: vzctl.diff
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Hi all,
the debian documentation states
(http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html)
The kernel maintains a system hostname. The initscript
/etc/init.d/hostname.sh sets the
system hostname at boot time (using the hostname command) to the name
stored in /etc/hostname.
If you use Proxmox VE, the bridge device is automatically created for
you by
the installer. Also, bridge-utils are automatically installed.
How do you installed the system?
yes, veth is always bridged (automatically). So there is nothing to
configure on the main host.
Perhaps i
Whithout having gone through the docs I'm curious as to what kind of
protocol it uses to talk to the remote VZ hosts.
https and VNC
Can you talk a little about the security of the model used by Proxmox?
Can I, on the client VZ HNs managed by Proxmox, limit what commands
Proxmox can
what is the minimum HW requirements for Proxmox?
Can it be installed on an AMD 686 single core CPU? (just for
testing/learning of course... :-)
http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Installation#System_requirements
So an old AMD 686 will not work.
- Dietmar
https and VNC
And I would imagine that cluster nodes talk to each other over ssh,
right?
Yes.
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It uses HTTPS to issue commands to the VZ nodes in the cluster? Really?
I guess you should look at the code yourself if you want to know how it works.
Can you talk a little about the security of the model used by
Proxmox?
Can I, on the client VZ HNs managed by Proxmox, limit what commands
It uses HTTPS to issue commands to the VZ nodes in the cluster?
Really?
I guess you should look at the code yourself if you want to know how it
works.
A short overview:
Web based clients connect via HTTPS to an apache2 server (and VNC proxyies
for the java console).
Technologies: HTTPS,
It uses HTTPS to issue commands to the VZ nodes in the cluster? Really?
What are VZ nodes?
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it possible to install pve on i386 as well, the minimun packages
and the most pve scripts are written in perl, only useing pve with
The i386 architecture has some serious drawbacks, and we do not want to
deal with them (pve itself is written in perl and not really
architecture dependent).
-
setup. We have asked about the possibility of a lite version that
was for OpenVZ only but the Proxmox VE folks are interested in doing
that... so... since the source is GPLed, if someone wants to grab the
ball and run with it, it is possible.
One problem is that we are a small team, the
But before you start the i386 port think twice - there are many useful
things you can do instead ;-)
Which reminds me about the following issues with openvz:
- '-cpus' is still not working with 2.6.24 - very, very, bad!
- live migration is still unstable with 2.6.24
...
- Dietmar
... ok, what can we i do ;-)
Depends on what you want to work on?
Kernel 2.6.24: implement '-cpus' and make live migration stable
openvz: we need a way to describe the contents of an openvz template.
Like the control file in a debian package. And we also want apt-like
repositories for those
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:58:46AM +0100, Dietmar Maurer wrote:
Is there are real world example where my approach does not work?
I think your approach won't work as is, at least in any tcb-enabled
system (see http://www.openwall.com/tcb/) for two obvious reasons:
- file where root shadow
I think your approach won't work as is, at least in any tcb-enabled
system (see http://www.openwall.com/tcb/) for two obvious reasons:
- file where root shadow entry is stored is not /etc/shadow;
I guess it is possible to detect the file and store the password?
It is a simple test for
Is there are real world example where my approach does not work?
I check for /etc/shadow, and store as md5 - AFAIK the user is able to
login with that password on all distribution using pam_unix. If not, we can
still
try to read and parse the pam configuration.
It will not work for nis, but
This way you'll have to either use the most weak hashing algorithm
supported by every container OS, or risk that your modern hashing
algorithm is not supported by some container OS.
We can customize the scripts per OS (as we do already for other
settings). And
md5 is supported on almost any
And is it really possible to store the root password on NIS? What happen on
filesystem errors - usually single user mode ask for a password before fsck.
But sure,
that can't happen within a container.
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The only problem is the solution is not generic. In other words, we
can't know how different distros handle local users. It used to be
crypt(3) and /etc/passwd (later /etc/shadow) manipulation. Now
everybody
uses PAM which can be configured in this or that way. For example, new
passwords are
Hi all,
currently you need to use the following command to change the password
inside a CT:
vzctl set CTID --userpasswd root:XXX
This starts/stop the CT if it is not already running.
That is OK unless you have preconfigured appliance templates which does
some
initialization at
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Sent: Donnerstag, 06. November 2008 10:51
To: users@openvz.org
Subject: [Users] create CT with password
Hi all,
currently you need to use the following command to change the password
inside a CT:
vzctl set CTID --userpasswd root:XXX
This starts
postcreate script can then modify /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.
attached is a modified postcreate script
- Dietmar
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Description: postcreate.sh
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Hi all,
I am looking for testers for the new vzdump version, available here:
DEB:
http://www.proxmox.com/cms_proxmox/cms/upload/vzdump/vzdump_1.1-1_all.de
b
RPM:
http://www.proxmox.com/cms_proxmox/cms/upload/vzdump/vzdump-1.1-1.noarch
.rpm
SOURCE:
You cant load modules inside the container.
- Dietmar
this is strange because I have all those modules loaded on
HardwareNode...
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Aug 28 17:09:19 localhost kernel: can't load conntrack support for
proto=2
What kind of network do you use - venet or veth?
Try veth if not already done.
There is also that vzctl --capability option, maybe you need some
additional capabilities (net_broadcast, net_admin, net_raw).
-
Btw, i just noticed that the mailing list archives are not up to date:
http://forum.openvz.org/index.php?t=threadfrm_id=7;
Last entry is fron August 13
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Having not used Xen but being very interested in all forms of
virtualization and how folks are using it, I'm curious.
What does one do with a kernel that does both OpenVZ and
Xen? Do you
run multiple Doms and a few of them use OpenVZ? Is there a
reason that
neither OpenVZ nor
Hi all,
With latest 2.6.24 from git we get errors inside 'futex_wake'
Not always in same program. It only happens from time to time.
Any idea what can cause that? v2.6.24-ovz004 works without problems.
- Dietmar
Unable to handle kernel paging request at 8fcc289b RIP:
I don't quite get it. Is it supposed to be a replacement for
vznetaddbr, an addition to it, or is it orthogonal to it? Who
and when calls vznetaddbr?
It merges vznetaddbr into vznetcfg, making
vznetaddbr obsolete.
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It would be just great if you can provide a patch to vzctl
man page describing the new parameter, and the according wiki
modifications/additions.
Here is the patch for the man page.
I am not sure how to edit the wiki. Howto indicate
that the feature is only available in newest version
from
Hi all,
with the new vzctl bridge patch sent yesterday it is easy to build up
hosts with complex 'virtual' networks. In Proxmox VE we have 9 bridges -
each CT can connect to one or more bridges.
I guess in theory it is possible to run a fully functional firewall
inside a CT. Does somebody has
And here is the vznetaddbr we use (attached).
I wonder if we can include that into the vzctl release - I
will post
the patch if soembody is interested.
Dietmar,
it will be useful indeed, please, provide patch to devel@
mailing list.
Please do so. I've written my
Hi Kir,
Von: Kir Kolyshkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 03. Juli 2008 13:35
An: users@openvz.org; Dietmar Maurer
Betreff: Re: AW: [Users] Multiple bridge support
How do you invoke it? Using EXTERNAL_SCRIPT?
Would be good to have a patch adding (conditional
Hi all,
In Proxmox VE we want to support multiple bridges. I currently use a
patch
which adds an bridge parameter to the netif options:
NETIF=ifname=XXX,bridge=XXX,mac=XXX,host_ifname=XXX,host_mac=XXX
--netif_add ifname[,mac,host_ifname,host_mac,bridge]
I also modified --netif_add to accept
Do I understand correctly that you actually experience the
following problem:
1. veth MAC address is lower then your ethX MAC.
2. so brX is assigned min(vethX-MAC, ethX-MAC) which is vethX-MAC.
3. and what is the your problem with that? that host system
MAC changes dynamically and
If I got your problem right then I can advise you a possible
solution - in RHEL5 kernel we have a functionality called
via_phys_dev (triggered by BRCTL_SET_VIA_ORIG_DEV ioctl).
This forces kernel to work with original interface ethX
(first added to bridge) and pass the traffic to it.
Hi all,
whats the best iosched for openvz servers. I found:
The deadline scheduler uses five I/O queues to keep track of I/O. It's
designed to emphasize
average read-request response time for workloads that seek all over the
disk.
Maybe the deadline scheduler is better than using the default
Why I asked is because of that bridge problem:
http://forum.openvz.org/index.php?t=msgth=5291#msg_26576
A bridge always select the lowest mac address.
This patch solves the problem, but i am not sure if there are side effects.
Hi all,
Just compiled latest 2.6.24 from git. I consistently get a kernel
Panic when i stop a CT (ipv6 related) - someone else observing that?
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Dietmar Maurer wrote:
Hi all,
Just compiled latest 2.6.24 from git. I consistently get a kernel
Panic when i stop a CT (ipv6 related) - someone else
observing that?
We do. Fill a bug in bugzilla, we'll look whether this is
already fixed.
I just update to latest git (commit
Hi all,
Are there any good books around concerning linux kernel developement -
with
up to date infos for new 2.6 features like cgroups?
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Tested wit openvz 2.6.24 from git and debian etch.
We normaly use a bridged network config (/etc/network/interfaces):
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auto vmbr0
iface vmbr0 inet static
address 192.168.1.2
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.1
bridge_ports eth0
is available at: http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Downloads
Let us know what you think!
Best regards,
Dietmar
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Attached is the new patch.
- Dietmar
vzctl.diff
Description: vzctl.diff
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Hi all,
I just tested 2.6.24 with the new fairsched. Everything seems to works
like expected - great.
I wonder if openvz-2.6.24 is now feature complete, or is there still
something missing?
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hi all,
my init logging patch works so far, but unfortunately it breaks
checkpointing:
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vzctl chkpnt 101
Setting up checkpoint...
suspend...
dump...
Can not dump container: Invalid argument
Error: d_path err=-22
Checkpointing failed
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Maybe some of
Just a guess: its the logging proxess itself, because that process still runs
on the host - I need to do a exec instead?
- Dietmar
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Adding a check makes sense. But first -- why do you need perl
at all? Is there something that can't be done in shell?
I guess you are right - will rewrite it.
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