Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt nested in VMware

2017-05-16 Thread Mark Duggan
Just bumping this in case anyone has any ideas as to what I might be able
to do to potentially get this to work.

On 12 May 2017 at 13:57, Mark Duggan <mdug...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Gianluca,
>
> So I installed the engine into a separate VM, and didn't go down the
> hosted-engine path, although if I was to look at this with physical hosts,
> this seems like a really good approach.
>
> To answer Michal's question from earlier, the nested VM inside the oVirt
> Hypervisors has been up for 23+ hours and it has not progressed past the
> Bios.
> Also, with respect to the vdsm-hooks, here's a list.
>
> Dumpxml attached (hopefully with identifying information removed)
>
> vdsm-hook-nestedvt.noarch
> vdsm-hook-vmfex-dev.noarch
> vdsm-hook-allocate_net.noarch
> vdsm-hook-checkimages.noarch
> vdsm-hook-checkips.x86_64
> vdsm-hook-diskunmap.noarch
> vdsm-hook-ethtool-options.noarch
> vdsm-hook-extnet.noarch
> vdsm-hook-extra-ipv4-addrs.x86_64
> vdsm-hook-fakesriov.x86_64
> vdsm-hook-fakevmstats.noarch
> vdsm-hook-faqemu.noarch
> vdsm-hook-fcoe.noarch
> vdsm-hook-fileinject.noarch
> vdsm-hook-floppy.noarch
> vdsm-hook-hostusb.noarch
> vdsm-hook-httpsisoboot.noarch
> vdsm-hook-hugepages.noarch
> vdsm-hook-ipv6.noarch
> vdsm-hook-isolatedprivatevlan.noarch
> vdsm-hook-localdisk.noarch
> vdsm-hook-macbind.noarch
> vdsm-hook-macspoof.noarch
> vdsm-hook-noipspoof.noarch
> vdsm-hook-numa.noarch
> vdsm-hook-openstacknet.noarch
> vdsm-hook-pincpu.noarch
> vdsm-hook-promisc.noarch
> vdsm-hook-qemucmdline.noarch
> vdsm-hook-qos.noarch
> vdsm-hook-scratchpad.noarch
> vdsm-hook-smbios.noarch
> vdsm-hook-spiceoptions.noarch
> vdsm-hook-vhostmd.noarch
> vdsm-hook-vmdisk.noarch
> vdsm-hook-vmfex.noarch
>
> I'm running ESXi 5.5. For the hypervisor VMs I've set the "Expose Hardware
> Assisted Virtualization to the guest OS"
>
> Hypervisor VMs are running CentOS 7.3
>
> [image: Inline images 1]
>
> On 12 May 2017 at 09:36, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cec...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Michal Skrivanek <
>> michal.skriva...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > On 11 May 2017, at 19:52, Mark Duggan <mdug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi everyone,
>>> >
>>> > From reading through the mailing list, it does appear that it's
>>> possible to have the ovirt nodes/hosts be VMware virtual machines, once I
>>> enable the appropriate settings on the VMware side. All seems to have gone
>>> well, I can see the hosts in the ovirt interface, but when I attempt to
>>> create and start a VM it never gets past printing the SeaBios version and
>>> the machine UUID to the screen/console. It doesn't appear to try to boot
>>> from the hard disk or an ISO that I've attached.
>>> >
>>> > Has anyone else encountered similar behaviour?
>>>
>>> I wouldn’t think you can even get that far.
>>> It may work with full emulation (non-kvm) but we kind of enforce it in
>>> oVirt so some changes are likely needed.
>>> Of course even if you succeed it’s going to be hopelessly slow. (or
>>> maybe it is indeed working and just runs very slow)
>>>
>>> Nested on a KVM hypervisor runs ok
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> michal
>>>
>>>
>> In the past I was able to get an Openstack Icehouse environment running
>> inside vSphere 5.x for a POC (on poweful physical servers) and performance
>> of nested VMs inside the virtual compute nodes was acceptable.
>> More recently I configured a standalone ESXi server 6.0 U2 on a Nuc6 with
>> 32Gb of ram and 2 ssd disks and on it I have now running 2 kinds of
>> environments (just verified they are still on after some months I abandoned
>> them to their destiny... ;-)
>>
>> 1) an ESXi VM acting as a single oVirt host (4.1.1 final or pre, I don't
>> remember) with self hosted engine (that itself becomes an L2 VM) and also
>> another VM (CentOS 6.8)
>> See here a screenshot of the web admin gui with a spice console open
>> after connecting to the engine:
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mvanpTUnFuZ2FURms
>> /view?usp=sharing
>>
>> 2) a virtual oVirt gluster environment based on 4.0.5 with 3 Virtual
>> Hosts (with one as arbiter node if I remember correctly)
>>
>> On this second environment I have ovirt01, virt02 and ovirt03 VMs:
>>
>> [root@ovirt02 ~]# hosted-engine --vm-status
>>
>>
>> --== Host 1 status ==--
>>
>> Status up-to-date

Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt nested in VMware

2017-05-12 Thread Mark Duggan
Thanks Gianluca,

So I installed the engine into a separate VM, and didn't go down the
hosted-engine path, although if I was to look at this with physical hosts,
this seems like a really good approach.

To answer Michal's question from earlier, the nested VM inside the oVirt
Hypervisors has been up for 23+ hours and it has not progressed past the
Bios.
Also, with respect to the vdsm-hooks, here's a list.

Dumpxml attached (hopefully with identifying information removed)

vdsm-hook-nestedvt.noarch
vdsm-hook-vmfex-dev.noarch
vdsm-hook-allocate_net.noarch
vdsm-hook-checkimages.noarch
vdsm-hook-checkips.x86_64
vdsm-hook-diskunmap.noarch
vdsm-hook-ethtool-options.noarch
vdsm-hook-extnet.noarch
vdsm-hook-extra-ipv4-addrs.x86_64
vdsm-hook-fakesriov.x86_64
vdsm-hook-fakevmstats.noarch
vdsm-hook-faqemu.noarch
vdsm-hook-fcoe.noarch
vdsm-hook-fileinject.noarch
vdsm-hook-floppy.noarch
vdsm-hook-hostusb.noarch
vdsm-hook-httpsisoboot.noarch
vdsm-hook-hugepages.noarch
vdsm-hook-ipv6.noarch
vdsm-hook-isolatedprivatevlan.noarch
vdsm-hook-localdisk.noarch
vdsm-hook-macbind.noarch
vdsm-hook-macspoof.noarch
vdsm-hook-noipspoof.noarch
vdsm-hook-numa.noarch
vdsm-hook-openstacknet.noarch
vdsm-hook-pincpu.noarch
vdsm-hook-promisc.noarch
vdsm-hook-qemucmdline.noarch
vdsm-hook-qos.noarch
vdsm-hook-scratchpad.noarch
vdsm-hook-smbios.noarch
vdsm-hook-spiceoptions.noarch
vdsm-hook-vhostmd.noarch
vdsm-hook-vmdisk.noarch
vdsm-hook-vmfex.noarch

I'm running ESXi 5.5. For the hypervisor VMs I've set the "Expose Hardware
Assisted Virtualization to the guest OS"

Hypervisor VMs are running CentOS 7.3

[image: Inline images 1]

On 12 May 2017 at 09:36, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cec...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Michal Skrivanek <
> michal.skriva...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On 11 May 2017, at 19:52, Mark Duggan <mdug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > From reading through the mailing list, it does appear that it's
>> possible to have the ovirt nodes/hosts be VMware virtual machines, once I
>> enable the appropriate settings on the VMware side. All seems to have gone
>> well, I can see the hosts in the ovirt interface, but when I attempt to
>> create and start a VM it never gets past printing the SeaBios version and
>> the machine UUID to the screen/console. It doesn't appear to try to boot
>> from the hard disk or an ISO that I've attached.
>> >
>> > Has anyone else encountered similar behaviour?
>>
>> I wouldn’t think you can even get that far.
>> It may work with full emulation (non-kvm) but we kind of enforce it in
>> oVirt so some changes are likely needed.
>> Of course even if you succeed it’s going to be hopelessly slow. (or maybe
>> it is indeed working and just runs very slow)
>>
>> Nested on a KVM hypervisor runs ok
>>
>> Thanks,
>> michal
>>
>>
> In the past I was able to get an Openstack Icehouse environment running
> inside vSphere 5.x for a POC (on poweful physical servers) and performance
> of nested VMs inside the virtual compute nodes was acceptable.
> More recently I configured a standalone ESXi server 6.0 U2 on a Nuc6 with
> 32Gb of ram and 2 ssd disks and on it I have now running 2 kinds of
> environments (just verified they are still on after some months I abandoned
> them to their destiny... ;-)
>
> 1) an ESXi VM acting as a single oVirt host (4.1.1 final or pre, I don't
> remember) with self hosted engine (that itself becomes an L2 VM) and also
> another VM (CentOS 6.8)
> See here a screenshot of the web admin gui with a spice console open after
> connecting to the engine:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mvanpTUnFuZ2FURms/
> view?usp=sharing
>
> 2) a virtual oVirt gluster environment based on 4.0.5 with 3 Virtual Hosts
> (with one as arbiter node if I remember correctly)
>
> On this second environment I have ovirt01, virt02 and ovirt03 VMs:
>
> [root@ovirt02 ~]# hosted-engine --vm-status
>
>
> --== Host 1 status ==--
>
> Status up-to-date  : True
> Hostname   : ovirt01.localdomain.local
> Host ID: 1
> Engine status  : {"reason": "vm not running on this
> host", "health": "bad", "vm": "down", "detail": "unknown"}
> Score  : 3042
> stopped: False
> Local maintenance  : False
> crc32  : 2041d7b6
> Host timestamp : 15340856
> Extra metadata (valid at timestamp):
> metadata_parse_version=1
> metadata_feature_version=1
> timestamp=153

Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt nested in VMware

2017-05-12 Thread Mark Duggan
Michal

I certainly seem to be able to get that far, I can provide screen grabs if
you think it'd be useful.

I'm OK with hopelessly slow, for now. It's really just to POC the
interface, and work flows. I'm hoping to get my hands on a couple of
servers soon so that I can do a more full blooded test.

Mark

On May 12, 2017 07:06, "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skriva...@redhat.com>
wrote:

>
> > On 11 May 2017, at 19:52, Mark Duggan <mdug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > From reading through the mailing list, it does appear that it's possible
> to have the ovirt nodes/hosts be VMware virtual machines, once I enable the
> appropriate settings on the VMware side. All seems to have gone well, I can
> see the hosts in the ovirt interface, but when I attempt to create and
> start a VM it never gets past printing the SeaBios version and the machine
> UUID to the screen/console. It doesn't appear to try to boot from the hard
> disk or an ISO that I've attached.
> >
> > Has anyone else encountered similar behaviour?
>
> I wouldn’t think you can even get that far.
> It may work with full emulation (non-kvm) but we kind of enforce it in
> oVirt so some changes are likely needed.
> Of course even if you succeed it’s going to be hopelessly slow. (or maybe
> it is indeed working and just runs very slow)
>
> Nested on a KVM hypervisor runs ok
>
> Thanks,
> michal
> >
> > Are there additional debug logs I can look at or enable to help further
> diagnose what is happening?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
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[ovirt-users] Ovirt nested in VMware

2017-05-11 Thread Mark Duggan
Hi everyone,

>From reading through the mailing list, it does appear that it's possible to
have the ovirt nodes/hosts be VMware virtual machines, once I enable the
appropriate settings on the VMware side. All seems to have gone well, I can
see the hosts in the ovirt interface, but when I attempt to create and
start a VM it never gets past printing the SeaBios version and the machine
UUID to the screen/console. It doesn't appear to try to boot from the hard
disk or an ISO that I've attached.

Has anyone else encountered similar behaviour?

Are there additional debug logs I can look at or enable to help further
diagnose what is happening?

Thanks

Mark
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