Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

2013-10-31 Thread Mike Kolesnik
Hi Peter, 

I recently wrote a blog post about it: 
http://javadump.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/howto-nested-kvm-based-virtual-setup-with-ovirt/
 

You can also use the all in one plugin, as Itamar suggested but still you would 
need nested KVM enabled if you run this in a VM. 

Regards, 
Mike 

- Original Message -


Hi All, 

my name is Peter van der Meulen from the Netherlands. I'm (self paced) studying 
the RHEV guides and course material to take the RHEV certifiation exam. 
Installing the RHEV manager is not a problem, the hypervisor is, however, 
another story. I don't have a seperate physical machine for the hypervisor. I 
was told that it is possible to install the RHEV hypervisor in a virtual 
machine using Ovirt kernel modules. Could someone point me towards 
documentation on this issue and what kernel modules to install? Thanks in 
advance! 

Best regards, 
Peter 





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Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

2013-10-31 Thread ru...@planet.nl
Hello Itamar,

Thank you for responding. The only machine i have is my Windows 7 pc (Intel i7, 
16Gb ram). I'm running the manager in Virtualbox and want to run the hypervisor 
in Virtualbox or VMware Workstation, just for study purposes. I'm using RHEL6 
for the manager and wanted to use it for the Hypervisor as well. So, 
unfortunatly i don't have an extra physical machine available.



Hi Peter,

please note you replied me in private, so folks on the mailing list 
still replying to you don't have this info, and answering on a different 
use case.
i suggest replying to my question on the mailing list for clarification.

Thanks,
Itamar


 Best regards,
 Peter



 Origineel Bericht
 Van : ih...@redhat.com
 Datum : 30/10/2013 16:01
 Aan : ru...@planet.nl
 Cc : users@ovirt.org
 Onderwerp : Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

 On 10/30/2013 12:12 AM, ru...@planet.nl wrote:
 Hi All,

 my name is Peter van der Meulen from the Netherlands. I'm (self paced)
 studying the RHEV guides and course material to take the RHEV
 certifiation exam. Installing the RHEV manager is not a problem, the
 hypervisor is, however, another story. I don't have a seperate physical
 machine for the hypervisor.  I was told that it is possible to install
 the RHEV hypervisor in a virtual machine using Ovirt kernel modules.
 Could someone point me towards documentation on this issue and what
 kernel modules to install?  Thanks in advance!

 Best regards,
 Peter


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 which OS are you using?

 if you have a single physical box, you can try installing the allinone
 setup plugin rpm which will deploy host+engine on same box.
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Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

2013-10-31 Thread ru...@planet.nl
Hello All, 

i have gotten some good replies and suggestions on my question en i'll be on 
them next weekend. Thanks to all and íll post my results later. 

Have a good weekend all! 

Peter  


 
Origineel Bericht
Van : mkole...@redhat.com
Datum : 31/10/2013 07:43
Aan : ru...@planet.nl
Cc : users@ovirt.org
Onderwerp : Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?


Hi Peter,


I recently wrote a blog post about it: 
http://javadump.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/howto-nested-kvm-based-virtual-setup-with-ovirt/


You can also use the all in one plugin, as Itamar suggested but still you would 
need nested KVM enabled if you run this in a VM.


Regards,
Mike




Hi All, 

my name is Peter van der Meulen from the Netherlands. I'm (self paced) studying 
the RHEV guides and course material to take the RHEV certifiation exam. 
Installing the RHEV manager is not a problem, the hypervisor is, however, 
another story. I don't have a seperate physical machine for the hypervisor.  I 
was told that it is possible to install the RHEV hypervisor in a virtual 
machine using Ovirt kernel modules. Could someone point me towards 
documentation on this issue and what kernel modules to install?  Thanks in 
advance! 

Best regards, 
Peter 



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Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

2013-10-31 Thread Joop

Hallo Peter,

Hello Itamar,

Thank you for responding. The only machine i have is my Windows 7 pc (Intel i7, 
16Gb ram). I'm running the manager in Virtualbox and want to run the hypervisor 
in Virtualbox or VMware Workstation, just for study purposes. I'm using RHEL6 
for the manager and wanted to use it for the Hypervisor as well. So, 
unfortunatly i don't have an extra physical machine available.


I have same machine specs @home and have installed Fedora 19 on a 
separate partition to play with oVirt. Depending on where you place your 
VMs you don't need much room for that. Isos you can leave on your 
Windows drive(s) and if you have a NAS you can put the VM storage (NFS) 
on it. If not then you can use thin provisioning to keep the size down 
but anything from 50-100G will get you a decent working oVirt 
installation on either Fedora 19 or Centos-6.4
Running a complete ovirt env in virtualbox is not possible since you 
can't have nested virt on Virtualbox. The engine will run but you will 
have nothing to play around with!
A nested virt env using a core i7 work quite well so it might be worth 
the trouble and time spent on installing fedora/centos on a new 
partition and start using dual boot. With an all-in-one setup you can do 
nested virt. Beware Centos needs a newer kernel than the 2.6.32.abc. 
Look at the elrepo repository for newer, upto 3.11.x.


Regards,

Joop

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[Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

2013-10-30 Thread ru...@planet.nl
Hi All, 
my name is Peter van der Meulen from the Netherlands. I'm (self paced) studying 
the RHEV guides and course material to take the RHEV certifiation exam. 
Installing the RHEV manager is not a problem, the hypervisor is, however, 
another story. I don't have a seperate physical machine for the hypervisor.  I 
was told that it is possible to install the RHEV hypervisor in a virtual 
machine using Ovirt kernel modules. Could someone point me towards 
documentation on this issue and what kernel modules to install?  Thanks in 
advance! 
Best regards, 
Peter 
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Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

2013-10-30 Thread Itamar Heim

On 10/30/2013 12:12 AM, ru...@planet.nl wrote:

Hi All,

my name is Peter van der Meulen from the Netherlands. I'm (self paced)
studying the RHEV guides and course material to take the RHEV
certifiation exam. Installing the RHEV manager is not a problem, the
hypervisor is, however, another story. I don't have a seperate physical
machine for the hypervisor.  I was told that it is possible to install
the RHEV hypervisor in a virtual machine using Ovirt kernel modules.
Could someone point me towards documentation on this issue and what
kernel modules to install?  Thanks in advance!

Best regards,
Peter


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which OS are you using?

if you have a single physical box, you can try installing the allinone 
setup plugin rpm which will deploy host+engine on same box.

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Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

2013-10-30 Thread Roy Golan

On 30/10/13 00:12, ru...@planet.nl wrote:

Hi All,

my name is Peter van der Meulen from the Netherlands. I'm (self paced) 
studying the RHEV guides and course material to take the RHEV 
certifiation exam. Installing the RHEV manager is not a problem, the 
hypervisor is, however, another story. I don't have a seperate 
physical machine for the hypervisor.  I was told that it is possible 
to install the RHEV hypervisor in a virtual machine using Ovirt kernel 
modules. Could someone point me towards documentation on this issue 
and what kernel modules to install? Thanks in advance!


Best regards,
Peter


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this wiki can be handy
http://www.ovirt.org/Vdsm_Developers#Running_Node_as_guest_-_Nested_KVM
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Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

2013-10-30 Thread Christian Hernandez
If you are using KVM as a virtualization platform; you can use nested KVM...

Here are some links on the subject

http://blog.jebpages.com/archives/ovirt-on-ovirt-nested-kvm-fu/
http://www.rdoxenham.com/?p=275
http://kashyapc.wordpress.com/2012/01/14/nested-virtualization-with-kvm-intel/

I have an oVirt and RHEV stack all on my test machine.

Note ~ you need a pretty hot box

HTH


Thank you,

Christian Hernandez
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Glendale, CA 91204
Phone: 877-782-2737 ext. 4566
Fax: 818-265-3152
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On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:12 PM, ru...@planet.nl ru...@planet.nl wrote:

 Hi All,

 my name is Peter van der Meulen from the Netherlands. I'm (self paced)
 studying the RHEV guides and course material to take the RHEV certifiation
 exam. Installing the RHEV manager is not a problem, the hypervisor is,
 however, another story. I don't have a seperate physical machine for the
 hypervisor.  I was told that it is possible to install the RHEV hypervisor
 in a virtual machine using Ovirt kernel modules. Could someone point me
 towards documentation on this issue and what kernel modules to install?
 Thanks in advance!

 Best regards,
 Peter

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Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

2013-10-30 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Peter,

Jason Brooks wrote an awesome guide to running oVirt in nested virt
recently: http://blog.jebpages.com/archives/ovirt-on-ovirt-nested-kvm-fu/

Hope this helps you!

Cheers,
Dave.

On 10/29/2013 11:12 PM, ru...@planet.nl wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 my name is Peter van der Meulen from the Netherlands. I'm (self paced)
 studying the RHEV guides and course material to take the RHEV
 certifiation exam. Installing the RHEV manager is not a problem, the
 hypervisor is, however, another story. I don't have a seperate physical
 machine for the hypervisor.  I was told that it is possible to install
 the RHEV hypervisor in a virtual machine using Ovirt kernel modules.
 Could someone point me towards documentation on this issue and what
 kernel modules to install?  Thanks in advance!
 
 Best regards,
 Peter
 
 
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