[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] CentOS Stream support

[Sandro Bonazzola]

Il giorno ven 8 gen 2021 alle ore 12:06 Sandro Bonazzola <
sbona...@redhat.com> ha scritto:

>
>
> Il giorno mar 5 gen 2021 alle ore 17:12 lejeczek via Users <
> users@ovirt.org> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Is supported and save to transition with > 4.4 to Centos
>> Stream, now when "Stream" is the only way to the future? Any
>> knows for certain?
>>
>
> We moved oVirt Node and oVirt Appliance to CentOS Stream for the next
> (oVirt 4.4.5) release.
> Help testing current master and 4.4.5 release candidates will help ensure
> it's stable for production.
>

Sadly, we had to revert to CentOS Linux 8.3 for 4.4.5, but re-targeting
this for 4.4.6 and continuing testing and fixing bugs.




>
>
>>
>> regards, L.
>>
>> On 05/06/2020 09:34, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> > we would like to ask about interest in community about oVirt moving to
>> CentOS Stream.
>> > There were some requests before but it’s hard to see how many people
>> would really like to see that.
>> >
>> > With CentOS releases lagging behind RHEL for months it’s interesting to
>> consider moving to CentOS Stream as it is much more up to date and allows
>> us to fix bugs faster, with less workarounds and overhead for maintaining
>> old code. E.g. our current integration tests do not really pass on CentOS
>> 8.1 and we can’t really do much about that other than wait for more up to
>> date packages. It would also bring us closer to make oVirt run smoothly on
>> RHEL as that is also much closer to Stream than it is to outdated CentOS.
>> >
>> > So..would you like us to support CentOS Stream?
>> > We don’t really have capacity to run 3 different platforms, would you
>> still want oVirt to support CentOS Stream if it means “less support” for
>> regular CentOS?
>> > There are some concerns about Stream being a bit less stable, do you
>> share those concerns?
>> >
>> > Thank you for your comments,
>> > michal
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] CentOS Stream support

[Sandro Bonazzola]

Il giorno mar 5 gen 2021 alle ore 17:12 lejeczek via Users 
ha scritto:

> Hi guys,
>
> Is supported and save to transition with > 4.4 to Centos
> Stream, now when "Stream" is the only way to the future? Any
> knows for certain?
>

We moved oVirt Node and oVirt Appliance to CentOS Stream for the next
(oVirt 4.4.5) release.
Help testing current master and 4.4.5 release candidates will help ensure
it's stable for production.


>
> regards, L.
>
> On 05/06/2020 09:34, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > we would like to ask about interest in community about oVirt moving to
> CentOS Stream.
> > There were some requests before but it’s hard to see how many people
> would really like to see that.
> >
> > With CentOS releases lagging behind RHEL for months it’s interesting to
> consider moving to CentOS Stream as it is much more up to date and allows
> us to fix bugs faster, with less workarounds and overhead for maintaining
> old code. E.g. our current integration tests do not really pass on CentOS
> 8.1 and we can’t really do much about that other than wait for more up to
> date packages. It would also bring us closer to make oVirt run smoothly on
> RHEL as that is also much closer to Stream than it is to outdated CentOS.
> >
> > So..would you like us to support CentOS Stream?
> > We don’t really have capacity to run 3 different platforms, would you
> still want oVirt to support CentOS Stream if it means “less support” for
> regular CentOS?
> > There are some concerns about Stream being a bit less stable, do you
> share those concerns?
> >
> > Thank you for your comments,
> > michal
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] CentOS Stream support

[Strahil Nikolov via Users]

В 16:09 + на 05.01.2021 (вт), lejeczek via Users написа:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Is supported and save to transition with > 4.4 to Centos 
> Stream, now when "Stream" is the only way to the future? Any 
> knows for certain?

Stream is not used by all Red Hat teams (yet) , thus it might be a
little bit unstable. I would recommend you to wait till the begining of
Q2 2021 before you evaluate it.

Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov
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[ovirt-users] Re: [ovirt-devel] CentOS Stream support

[lejeczek via Users]

Hi guys,

Is supported and save to transition with > 4.4 to Centos 
Stream, now when "Stream" is the only way to the future? Any 
knows for certain?


regards, L.

On 05/06/2020 09:34, Michal Skrivanek wrote:

Hi all,
we would like to ask about interest in community about oVirt moving to CentOS 
Stream.
There were some requests before but it’s hard to see how many people would 
really like to see that.

With CentOS releases lagging behind RHEL for months it’s interesting to 
consider moving to CentOS Stream as it is much more up to date and allows us to 
fix bugs faster, with less workarounds and overhead for maintaining old code. 
E.g. our current integration tests do not really pass on CentOS 8.1 and we 
can’t really do much about that other than wait for more up to date packages. 
It would also bring us closer to make oVirt run smoothly on RHEL as that is 
also much closer to Stream than it is to outdated CentOS.

So..would you like us to support CentOS Stream?
We don’t really have capacity to run 3 different platforms, would you still 
want oVirt to support CentOS Stream if it means “less support” for regular 
CentOS?
There are some concerns about Stream being a bit less stable, do you share 
those concerns?

Thank you for your comments,
michal
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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt and CentOS Stream

[Sandro Bonazzola]

Il giorno ven 27 set 2019 alle ore 11:27 Rik Theys <
rik.th...@esat.kuleuven.be> ha scritto:

> Hi Sandro,
>
> I could not find anything regarding security support for CentOS Stream.
> Will the updated packages in CentOS Stream receive the same security
> support as regular RHEL/CentOS?
>

Hi, please ask on de...@centos.org mailing list on this.
For oVirt RPMs, if a security fix is being pushed for CentOS Linux I expect
it to be pushed to CentOS Stream as well.



>
> Regards,
> Rik
>
> On 9/27/19 9:10 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>
>
>
> Il giorno gio 26 set 2019 alle ore 17:29 Strahil 
> ha scritto:
>
>> Should I understand that the most tested  platform will be CentOS Stream
>> 8 ?
>>
>
> We expect CentOS Stream 8 to become the platform used to develop oVirt so
> we expect it to be the most tested on development.
>
>
>> Will Fedora & CentOS 8 still viable option ?
>>
> Best Regards,
>> Strahil Nikolov
>>
>>
> Since CentOS Stream will be upstream to CentOS Linux, CentOS Linux should
> still be a viable option.
> Please note that at oVirt GA time CentOS Linux may be missing some
> packages or features that should be included in next CentOS Linux so
> staying on CentOS Linux may mean you'll probably need to wait upgrading to
> latest oVirt till next CentOS Linux will go GA.
> Details about exact flow are still under review.
>
> About Fedora, there's no plan to change our support policy for it, we are
> going to work with it as usual, trying to support it as best effort / tech
> preview.
>
>
>
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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt and CentOS Stream

[Rik Theys]

Hi Sandro,

I could not find anything regarding security support for CentOS Stream. 
Will the updated packages in CentOS Stream receive the same security 
support as regular RHEL/CentOS?


Regards,
Rik

On 9/27/19 9:10 AM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:



Il giorno gio 26 set 2019 alle ore 17:29 Strahil 
mailto:hunter86...@yahoo.com>> ha scritto:


Should I understand that the most tested platform will be CentOS
Stream 8 ?


We expect CentOS Stream 8 to become the platform used to develop oVirt 
so we expect it to be the most tested on development.


Will Fedora & CentOS 8 still viable option ?

Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov



Since CentOS Stream will be upstream to CentOS Linux, CentOS Linux 
should still be a viable option.
Please note that at oVirt GA time CentOS Linux may be missing some 
packages or features that should be included in next CentOS Linux so 
staying on CentOS Linux may mean you'll probably need to wait 
upgrading to latest oVirt till next CentOS Linux will go GA.

Details about exact flow are still under review.

About Fedora, there's no plan to change our support policy for it, we 
are going to work with it as usual, trying to support it as best 
effort / tech preview.


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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt and CentOS Stream

[Sandro Bonazzola]

Il giorno gio 26 set 2019 alle ore 17:29 Strahil  ha
scritto:

> Should I understand that the most tested  platform will be CentOS Stream 8
> ?
>

We expect CentOS Stream 8 to become the platform used to develop oVirt so
we expect it to be the most tested on development.


> Will Fedora & CentOS 8 still viable option ?
>
Best Regards,
> Strahil Nikolov
>
>
Since CentOS Stream will be upstream to CentOS Linux, CentOS Linux should
still be a viable option.
Please note that at oVirt GA time CentOS Linux may be missing some packages
or features that should be included in next CentOS Linux so staying on
CentOS Linux may mean you'll probably need to wait upgrading to latest
oVirt till next CentOS Linux will go GA.
Details about exact flow are still under review.

About Fedora, there's no plan to change our support policy for it, we are
going to work with it as usual, trying to support it as best effort / tech
preview.



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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt and CentOS Stream

[Strahil]

Should I understand that the most tested  platform will be CentOS Stream 8 ?

Will Fedora & CentOS 8 still viable option ?

Best Regards,
Strahil NikolovOn Sep 26, 2019 16:13, Sandro Bonazzola  
wrote:
>
> Progress cannot be made without change. As technologists, we recognize this 
> every day. Most of the time, these changes are iterative: progressive 
> additions of features to projects like oVirt. Sometimes those changes are 
> small, and sometimes not.  And that’s, of course, just talking about our 
> project. But one of the biggest strengths of our community’s software is that 
> we are not alone, and because of that, changes to other projects have ripple 
> effects that can affect our own, even in positive ways.
>
>
> This week, our collaborators in the CentOS Project have announced a change in 
> the way their software is released moving forward. 
>
> Beyond this week release of CentOS Linux 8, the CentOS team has announced 
> CentOS Stream, a rolling release distribution that will be the "midstream" 
> between Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise Linux. 
>
>
> To be clear, Fedora will remain as the first upstream of RHEL. But when RHEL 
> branches off, CentOS will be upstream for ongoing work on those RHEL 
> versions. This change gives public visibility into ongoing work on released 
> RHEL, and a place for developers and community projects like ours to 
> collaborate at that level.
>
>
> CentOS has been heading in the direction of Stream for quite some time. 
> CentOS SIGs — the special interest groups for virtualization, storage, config 
> management, and so on — have given our project a way to provide input into 
> the CentOS platform. Now, though, we can actually provide direct improvements 
> or fixes to CentOS Stream platform that will be beneficial to our project. 
> Long-term, those project-specific changes can find their way into the next 
> release of RHEL, providing smoother transitions for those users of our 
> downstream projects.
>
>
> We expect the positive effects to extend beyond our own project’s ecosystem. 
> Through CentOS Stream, developers will have early access to new features and 
> content that are being built into the upcoming RHEL version. This will help 
> to allow next-generation applications to have compatibility with future 
> versions of RHEL. 
>
>
> The benefits of these changes are clear for ecosystem developers working on 
> projects such as ours, writing hardware drivers, or extending protocols for 
> RHEL. As we push the innovations that start in Fedora through the new CentOS 
> Stream, the community will have a clear vision of the future of Red Hat 
> Enterprise Linux. 
>
>
> For users of oVirt, we expect CentOS Stream to be the preferred upstream 
> platform on which oVirt should be run, especially with the capability for our 
> users to now contribute changes to our software and the community-built 
> platform on which oVirt runs.
>
>
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