[Users] General: Edit Policy

2012-12-13 Thread Jonathan Horne
today i just saw for the first time Clusters – General: Edit Policy button.  i 
changed it from nothing to balanced.  googling, it seems that this is for CPU 
load amongst the hosts to balance the CPU load of VMs.  the reason I'm asking 
is, my test environment is 3 hosts, and 2 of them are leveled up to above 75% 
memory usage (both of them complaining on the events console), and nothing 
migrating to the 3rd node which currently has 0 VMs.

do i have something incorrectly configured? i was under the assumption that 
migrations would happen automatically when host resourced were nearing max (i 
assumed this was either CPU or memory)?  on my cluster, i checked the setting 
for memory optimization for servers.

is there anything else?  am i not properly understanding the migration theory?  
my guide link in the upper right does not hyperlink to any docs, so I'm left 
to google and i have not found much so far.

thanks for any advice,
jonathan


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Re: [Users] General: Edit Policy

2012-12-13 Thread Jonathan Horne
ok, so moments after i sent that question, i finally stumble onto the RHEV 
documentation, and it states that the setting is for CPU load, and you specify 
what % and how many minutes its allowed to stay that way before no new VMs are 
allowed to start on the host.

but still leaves the question, what about memory resources and how are they 
governed as far as automatic migrations go?

thanks,
jonathan

From: Jonathan Horne jho...@skopos.usmailto:jho...@skopos.us
Date: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:18 AM
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Subject: [Users] General: Edit Policy

today i just saw for the first time Clusters – General: Edit Policy button.  i 
changed it from nothing to balanced.  googling, it seems that this is for CPU 
load amongst the hosts to balance the CPU load of VMs.  the reason I'm asking 
is, my test environment is 3 hosts, and 2 of them are leveled up to above 75% 
memory usage (both of them complaining on the events console), and nothing 
migrating to the 3rd node which currently has 0 VMs.

do i have something incorrectly configured? i was under the assumption that 
migrations would happen automatically when host resourced were nearing max (i 
assumed this was either CPU or memory)?  on my cluster, i checked the setting 
for memory optimization for servers.

is there anything else?  am i not properly understanding the migration theory?  
my guide link in the upper right does not hyperlink to any docs, so I'm left 
to google and i have not found much so far.

thanks for any advice,
jonathan


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Re: [Users] General: Edit Policy

2012-12-13 Thread Doron Fediuck
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 From: Jonathan Horne jho...@skopos.us
 To: Jonathan Horne jho...@skopos.us, users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:32:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [Users] General: Edit Policy

 ok, so moments after i sent that question, i finally stumble onto the
 RHEV documentation, and it states that the setting is for CPU load,
 and you specify what % and how many minutes its allowed to stay that
 way before no new VMs are allowed to start on the host.

 but still leaves the question, what about memory resources and how
 are they governed as far as automatic migrations go?

 thanks,
 jonathan

 From: Jonathan Horne  jho...@skopos.us 
 Date: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:18 AM
 To:  users@ovirt.org   users@ovirt.org 
 Subject: [Users] General: Edit Policy

 today i just saw for the first time Clusters – General: Edit Policy
 button. i changed it from nothing to balanced. googling, it seems
 that this is for CPU load amongst the hosts to balance the CPU load
 of VMs. the reason I'm asking is, my test environment is 3 hosts,
 and 2 of them are leveled up to above 75% memory usage (both of them
 complaining on the events console), and nothing migrating to the 3rd
 node which currently has 0 VMs.

 do i have something incorrectly configured? i was under the
 assumption that migrations would happen automatically when host
 resourced were nearing max (i assumed this was either CPU or
 memory)? on my cluster, i checked the setting for memory
 optimization for servers.

 is there anything else? am i not properly understanding the migration
 theory? my guide link in the upper right does not hyperlink to any
 docs, so I'm left to google and i have not found much so far.

 thanks for any advice,
 jonathan

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Hi Jonathan, 
Indeed this works for memory overcommitment. 
A ssuming you have ksm running on your hosts , it should share memory pages 
allowing you to do memory overcommitment. Note that currently oVirt has an 
indication for each host if it has shared pages or not, and the relevant 
percentage 
(Click a host, watch the General sub-tab: Memory Page Sharing and Shared 
Memory). 

WRT doing mistakes, we're planning to improve it in the future. but for now, if 
your sharing 
is poor, the host may start swapping the guests which is not good 
performance-wise. 

I suggest you give it a try, and watch the statistics, as each OS has its own 
memory behavior. 
Let me know if you have more questions. 

Doron 
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