[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

В 14:41 + на 23.01.2021 (сб), Florian Schmid via Users написа: > Hi Strahil, > > thank you very much for the information. > > Now the question is, will oVirt stay 100 % compatible to RH? It should, but it it might have issues like we got with ovirt 4.4 (cluster compatibility 4.5) and CentOS 8

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

quot; Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Januar 2021 14:58:44 Betreff: [ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead For anyone interested , RH are extending the developer subscription for production use of up to 16 systems [1]. For me , it's completely enough to run my oVirt nodes on EL 8. [ https://w

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

For anyone interested , RH are extending the developer subscription for production use of up to 16 systems [1]. For me , it's completely enough to run my oVirt nodes on EL 8. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel Best Regards, Str

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

@deheureu.se>>, > "James Loker-Steele" mailto:jameslo...@me.com>>, "Diggy > Mc" mailto:d...@bornfree.org>>, "users" <mailto:users@ovirt.org>> > Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Dezember 2020 23:14:41 > Betreff: [ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

t;users" Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Dezember 2020 23:14:41 Betreff: [ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead On Dec 25, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Strahil Nikolov via Users < [ mailto:users@ovirt.org | users@ovirt.org ] > wrote: В 22:32 +0100 на 25.12.2020 (пт), marcel d'heureuse написа: BQ_B

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Strahil Nikolov via Users > wrote: > > В 22:32 +0100 на 25.12.2020 (пт), marcel d'heureuse написа: >> I think oracle is not a solution. if they do the same with oracle Linux like >> java one year ago. that you can't use it in company's it will be a wast of >>

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 11:27 PM, Strahil Nikolov wrote: > > >> I do not expect particular issues; for OL we’re also working to the pure OL7 >> to OL8 upgrade process. >> BTW, I tested more times the moving from CentOS 7 to OL7 / oVirt to OLVM on >> 4.3 release. >> >>> I saw >>> https://blog

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 11:26 PM, Diggy Mc wrote: > > Simon, > Do you have a rough guess as to when OLVM 4.4 on OL8 will be released? I'm > committed to OL8, but need to decide soon if I should go with oVirt 4.4 on > OL8 or wait for OLVM 4.4. I do not have a date that can be shared actually b

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

No, OLVM is free to download and free to update. Simon > On Dec 25, 2020, at 10:13 PM, Strahil Nikolov via Users > wrote: > > В 19:35 + на 25.12.2020 (пт), James Loker-Steele via Users написа: >> Yes. >> We use OEL and have setup oracles branded ovirt as well as test ovirt >> on oracle an

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

> I do not expect particular issues; for OL we’re also working to the > pure OL7 to OL8 upgrade process. > BTW, I tested more times the moving from CentOS 7 to OL7 / oVirt to > OLVM on 4.3 release. > > > I saw > > https://blogs.oracle.com/virtualization/getting-started-with-oracle-linux-virtualiz

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Simon, Do you have a rough guess as to when OLVM 4.4 on OL8 will be released? I'm committed to OL8, but need to decide soon if I should go with oVirt 4.4 on OL8 or wait for OLVM 4.4. ___ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an emai

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

I believe the support is the same as red hat and paid is available but oel and the ovirt (olvm) is free as has been mentioned. It’s currently on ovirt 4.3.6 and there is a bug or 2 with that as mentioned in the comments on the press release https://blogs.oracle.com/virtualization/announcing-orac

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

В 22:32 +0100 на 25.12.2020 (пт), marcel d'heureuse написа: > I think oracle is not a solution. if they do the same with oracle > Linux like java one year ago. that you can't use it in company's it > will be a wast of time to move to oracle. > > or am I wrong? > > br > marcel I admit that Oracle

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

OLVM and its updates, as well as Oracle Linux (that's OL, not OEL), are available for free. ___ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

I think oracle is not a solution. if they do the same with oracle Linux like java one year ago. that you can't use it in company's it will be a wast of time to move to oracle. or am I wrong? br marcel Am 25. Dezember 2020 22:13:29 MEZ schrieb Strahil Nikolov via Users : >В 19:35 + на 25.

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

В 19:35 + на 25.12.2020 (пт), James Loker-Steele via Users написа: > Yes. > We use OEL and have setup oracles branded ovirt as well as test ovirt > on oracle and it works a treat. Hey James, is Oracle 's version of oVirt paid ? Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov ___

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Oracle took that college meme — just change the variables name — too seriously. > On 25 Dec 2020, at 16:35, James Loker-Steele via Users > wrote: > > Yes. > We use OEL and have setup oracles branded ovirt as well as test ovirt on > oracle and it works a treat. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >>

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Yes. We use OEL and have setup oracles branded ovirt as well as test ovirt on oracle and it works a treat. Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Dec 2020, at 18:23, Diggy Mc wrote: > > Is Oracle Linux a viable alternative for the oVirt project? It is, after > all, a rebuild of RHEL like CentOS. If

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

В 18:22 + на 25.12.2020 (пт), Diggy Mc написа: > Is Oracle Linux a viable alternative for the oVirt project? It is, > after all, a rebuild of RHEL like CentOS. If not viable, why not? I > need to make some decisions posthaste about my pending oVirt 4.4 > deployments. It should be ,as Oracle

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Is Oracle Linux a viable alternative for the oVirt project? It is, after all, a rebuild of RHEL like CentOS. If not viable, why not? I need to make some decisions posthaste about my pending oVirt 4.4 deployments. ___ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

I am glad you think so and it works for you. But I'd also guess that you put more than a partial FTE to the project. I got attracted via the HCI angle they started pushing as a result of Nutanix creating a bit of a stir. The ability to use discarded production boxes for a lab with the flexibili

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Also we have begun using OLVM based on tests we conducted with ovirt a while ago. Only issue is olvm is currently stuck on 4.3.6 and waiting for oracle to release updates is a slow process. Personally I would have liked to use ovirt but apparently using oracle is better for the Databases. __

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Hi Strahil, OpenVZ is winding down, unfortunately. They haven't gone near CentOS8 yet any I don't see that happen either. It's very unfortunate, because I really loved that project and I always preferred its container abstraction as well as the resource management tools, because scale-in is rea

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

This is what we are planning to do. We made a decision a while ago to start using oracle Linux as we are already an oracle db house. We have centos machines and are slowly ditching Ubuntu and Debian. Moving to OEL is the logical choice. ___ Users mailin

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

The major issue with that is that oVirt 4.3 is out of maintenance, with Python2 EOL being a main reason. CentOS reboots are happening, but will be to little avail, when the oVirt team won't support them. It's a mess that does lots of damage to this project, but IBM might just have different pri

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

y Stewart *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 4:56 PM *To:* Strahil Nikolov *Cc:* users *Subject:* [ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead This is a little concerning. But it seems pretty easy to convert: https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/ However I would be curious to

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

this. > >From: Wesley Stewart >Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 4:56 PM >To: Strahil Nikolov >Cc: users >Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead > >This is a little concerning. > >But it seems pretty easy to convert: >https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/ >

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Hi Thomas, actually your expectations are a little bit high. Why I'm saying this ? oVirt is the upstream of RedHat's and Oracle's paid solutions. As such , it's much more dynamic and we are a kind of testers of it. So, oVirt to RHV is like Fedora (and not CentOS) to RHEL. Actually , you are loo

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Il giorno mar 8 dic 2020 alle ore 20:39 Strahil Nikolov via Users < users@ovirt.org> ha scritto: > Hello All, > > I'm really worried about the following news: > https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/ oVirt already defined plans about CentOS Stream one year ago: https://blogs.ov

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

On 2020-12-10 15:02, tho...@hoberg.net wrote: I came to oVirt thinking that it was like CentOS: There might be bugs, but given the mainline usage in home and coporate labs with light workloads and nothing special, chances to hit one should be pretty minor: I like looking for new fronteers atop of

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

I came to oVirt thinking that it was like CentOS: There might be bugs, but given the mainline usage in home and coporate labs with light workloads and nothing special, chances to hit one should be pretty minor: I like looking for new fronteers atop of my OS, not inside. I have been runing CentO

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

It looks like a few forks are popping up already. A new project called RockyLinux and now CloudLinux announced an RHEL fork today which sounds promising: https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:42 AM Jorick Astrego wro

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Hi, Personally I don't really see the problem with the CentOS stream switch. Not trying to start a long discussion but I think it will be even be an improvement. Currently we use different combinations of EPEL, SCL, Elrepo etc. just to get some newer packages and a lot of people do the same and h

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

> On 9 Dec 2020, at 01:21, thilb...@generalpacific.com wrote: > > I to would like to see if Ubuntu could become a bit more main stream with > oVirt now that CentOS is gone. I'm sure we won't hear anything until 2021 the > oVirt staff need to figure out what to do now. Right now we’re happy th

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

> On 8 Dec 2020, at 20:55, Wesley Stewart wrote: > > This is a little concerning. > > But it seems pretty easy to convert: > https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/ > > However I would be curious to see if someone tests this with having an active > ovi

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

FYI we still have: Springdale Open Enterprise Linux (http://springdale.math.ias.edu) Oracle Enterprise Linux (https://www.oracle.com/linux/) So all is not lost. They are both rebuilds of RHEL from the SRPMS. /tony -- Tony Albers - Systems Architect - IT Development Royal Danish Library, Vic

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

IBM is destroying Red hat. Sad. 在 2020/12/9 6:05, Derek Atkins 写道: Hmm. I appear to be having Slack issues. Even though I am logged into my slack and have it running, when I click this link I get a "sign in to your workspace" -- and I can't get to this channel. Maybe it's not public and is limit

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

I to would like to see if Ubuntu could become a bit more main stream with oVirt now that CentOS is gone. I'm sure we won't hear anything until 2021 the oVirt staff need to figure out what to do now. ___ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscri

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

On 12/8/2020 12:20 PM, Michael Watters wrote: This was one of my fears regarding the IBM acquisition.  I guess we can't complain too much, it's not like anybody *pays* for CentOS.  :) yes, but "we" do provide feedback and bug reports from a LOT of different environments which directly helps R

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Hmm. I appear to be having Slack issues. Even though I am logged into my slack and have it running, when I click this link I get a "sign in to your workspace" -- and I can't get to this channel. Maybe it's not public and is limited somehow? Or maybe Slack doesn't like me? -derek On Tue, December 8

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Actually, you are not the only one thinking about it. You can check a lot of users (including me) are joining the following slack channel: https://app.slack.com/client/T0YKGK200/D01H5BZ85LG Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov В 16:01 -0500 на 08.12.2020 (вт), Derek Atkins написа: > On Tue, December 8,

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Should we use Gentoo as baseline for ovirt? you can freeze this very easy but it's hard to manage. Ubuntu ltd will be a try for ovirt. our lab we will leave centos 7 up to june 24. than we have to move br marcel Am 8. Dezember 2020 22:01:51 MEZ schrieb Derek Atkins : > >On Tue, December

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

On Tue, December 8, 2020 3:49 pm, Christopher Cox wrote: > On 12/8/20 2:20 PM, Michael Watters wrote: >> This was one of my fears regarding the IBM acquisition.  I guess we >> can't complain too much, it's not like anybody *pays* for CentOS.  :) > > Yes, but this greatly limits oVirt use to tempor

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

On 12/8/20 2:20 PM, Michael Watters wrote: This was one of my fears regarding the IBM acquisition.  I guess we can't complain too much, it's not like anybody *pays* for CentOS.  :) Yes, but this greatly limits oVirt use to temporal dev labs only. Maybe oVirt should look into what it would take

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

This was one of my fears regarding the IBM acquisition.  I guess we can't complain too much, it's not like anybody *pays* for CentOS.  :) On 12/8/2020 3:14 PM, Strahil Nikolov via Users wrote: > Yeah, > the main problem is that Stream won't be as stable as RHEL (which also > has tons of bugs) and

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Stewart Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 4:56 PM To: Strahil Nikolov Cc: users Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead This is a little concerning. But it seems pretty easy to convert: https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/ However I would be curious to see if someone tests this with having

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

Yeah, the main problem is that Stream won't be as stable as RHEL (which also has tons of bugs) and you will have to fight with bugs in the OS as if I'm running a Fedota and on top of that - we have to be extra careful for oVirt. Also the Stream is quite new and we can't say if it will be as CentOS

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

This is a little concerning. But it seems pretty easy to convert: https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/ However I would be curious to see if someone tests this with having an active ovirt node! On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 2:39 PM Strahil Nikolov via Users wrote: > Hello All, > > I'm really worried

[ovirt-users] Re: CentOS 8 is dead

On 2020-12-08 14:37, Strahil Nikolov via Users wrote: Hello All, I'm really worried about the following news: https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/ Did anyone tried to port oVirt to SLES/openSUSE or any Debian-based distro ? Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov