[SOGo] BTS activities for Thursday, November 07 2019

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Title: BTS activities for Thursday, November 07 2019





  
BTS Activities

  Home page: http://www.sogo.nu/bugs
  Project: SOGo
  For the period covering: Thursday, November 07 2019

  
  
idlast updatestatus (resolution)categorysummary
	
	
	  
	
4864
	2019-11-07 10:09:59
	updated (open)
	Backend Calendar
	configure Sogo to use a remote Calendar server
	
	  
	
4567
	2019-11-07 14:09:14
	updated (open)
	Backend General
	Duplicated event on mobile device
	
	  
	
4874
	2019-11-07 11:39:28
	resolved (fixed)
	GUI
	Unable to deactivate vacation
	
	  
	
4875
	2019-11-07 09:49:03
	resolved (fixed)
	Web Calendar
	No Umlaut in Recurrence dropdown with DE language
	
	  
	
  
  


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AW: [SOGo] Questions about SOGo

[Support]

Hello

The exact configuration you add to outlook is what exactly is it?

Michel 
Le Jeudi, Novembre 07, 2019 14:12 CET, "\"WebMan [Technik]\"" 
(tech...@webman.de)  a écrit:
  
Hello,


 
thank you for your effort and the explaination!


 
I managed to get the Identities working in Thunderbird, but I think Thunderbird 
is sadly not an Option for us. But I discovered that em Client does it fully 
automatically (so it discovers these aliases on its own!).

The Plugin for Outlook doesn’t work for me, I guess it needs Microsoft Exchange 
or Office 365 to work. It’s sad that Outlook cant choose the right address from 
its own (it does this only if the address was added through a mailbox, not if 
you added it manually).


 
One remaining Question is the Mobile Client – which one do you use to have this 
functionality on mobile devices? I guess outlook wont do it; has anyone tried 
nine, for example?


 

- Alwin Sonnemann


 

 

 

 
Von: Support 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2019 18:44
An: users@sogo.nu; WebMan [Technik] 
Betreff: Re: [SOGo] Questions about SOGo


 
Hello

You can tell us the configuration that you adapt on your devices to be sure 
that you are not mistaken in the process...
Yours sincerely
Michel
Le Mercredi, Novembre 06, 2019 17:26 CET, "Anselm Martin Hoffmeister" 
(ans...@hoffmeister.be)  a écrit:
 

 

Hi Alwin,

 

we have quite a similar setup here. As most colleagues here have several 
"identities" (which is, they work for both companies sharing this office space) 
and mail should be sent with the corresponding signature, depending on the 
original incoming address, the mail program must select the correct identity on 
reply.

Luckily for us, Thunderbird does exactly this. As you noticed, the webmailer 
also looks into the original mail and selects an appropriate "identity".

 

So this is obviously a mail user agent thing, in the first place at least. I am 
aware of huge differences between Outlook versions out there, and at least that 
Outlook 2016 that my PC has (and that is not opened more than once a year, 
luckily) seems not to do a proper matching. I guess you should look into the 
options that Outlook (+AddOns) might offer here, rather than on the server-side.

 

It seems that some people achieved to have Thunderbird-like "identities" in 
Outlook by creating more that one account (and disabling all but the first 
one). I did not read though wether the automatic choice of sender address came 
with this.

You might want to have a look at https://www.ivasoft.com/smartreply2010.shtml 
(not affiliated to it, just a google result), which seems to quite match your 
request (add-on comes at 50$/workstation). So there seems to be a lack of 
functionality in Outlook, and someone makes a living off this.

 

For emClient, I cannot tell, as I never used that one, sorry.

 

On the other hand you can do all kinds of smart or stupid things in rewriting 
outgoing mails on the server. I would recommend against that approach, as the 
reply mail does not necessarily bear the information of the original target 
mail address. You would have to store this on the "way in", with the message 
id, and in the outgoing mail, lookup the "Message-Reply-ID" (or similar header 
field) and find the address to insert from your database. Yes this is possible, 
and a rather ugly hack! E.g. in an Exim setup, you might add a "router" there 
to pass your mail into some manipulation scripts, and probably insert some bad 
bugs into mail handling while doing so. BTDT.

 

BR

Anselm

 

 

Am 06.11.2019 um 08:44 schrieb "WebMan [Technik]" (tech...@webman.de):

Hello,

 

we are currently converting our mailsystem to SOGo. We have a few questions. 
Maybe someone can answer me if this is possible.

 

In our e-mails, we have tried to create a specific structure:

 * There is a main mailbox with some aliases (created in SOGo)
 * The mails sent to this alias are automatically moved to a subfolder in the 
same mailbox

Now it gets difficult:

 * If one of these mails is answered, the client (for example, Outlook or em 
Client) should automatically select the address to which the mail was sent

 * 
 * The aliases (as sender addresses) could also be sent automatically by the 
server to the client. Then he could make the choice easily.

 * 
 * 
 * Is there perhaps a SOGo plugin to do that?
 * Where can I even see / browse the available SOGo plugins?

 * 
 * It would be okay to create the addresses manually, but the client would 
still have to select them automatically (but unfortunately that does not work 
right now).

 * 
 * 
 * Maybe there is an Outlook plugin?

 * 
 * There is this functionality in the webmailer. It just works like we want it 
to.

If that does not work:

 * Is there a possibility to set a manually added sender address (alias) as 
default? Unfortunately, I couldn’t find anything.
 * Is it possible to manipulate the sender address on server-side (depending on 
the user and only if the receiver is exter

RE: [SOGo] Questions about SOGo

[Kai-Uwe Rommel]

Yes, I am using Nine with SOGo (ActiveSync), but I’m still on version 2.3.

Regarding desktop client .. the standard Windows 10 Mail app does also work 
fine with SOGo.

Kai-Uwe Rommel

From: users-requ...@sogo.nu  On Behalf Of "WebMan 
[Technik]"
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:13 PM
To: 'users@sogo.nu' 
Subject: AW: [SOGo] Questions about SOGo

Hello,

thank you for your effort and the explaination!

I managed to get the Identities working in Thunderbird, but I think Thunderbird 
is sadly not an Option for us. But I discovered that em Client does it fully 
automatically (so it discovers these aliases on its own!).
The Plugin for Outlook doesn’t work for me, I guess it needs Microsoft Exchange 
or Office 365 to work. It’s sad that Outlook cant choose the right address from 
its own (it does this only if the address was added through a mailbox, not if 
you added it manually).

One remaining Question is the Mobile Client – which one do you use to have this 
functionality on mobile devices? I guess outlook wont do it; has anyone tried 
nine, for example?

- Alwin Sonnemann
kai-uwe.rom...@ars.de
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AW: [SOGo] Questions about SOGo

["WebMan [Technik]"]

Hello,

thank you for your effort and the explaination!

I managed to get the Identities working in Thunderbird, but I think Thunderbird 
is sadly not an Option for us. But I discovered that em Client does it fully 
automatically (so it discovers these aliases on its own!).
The Plugin for Outlook doesn’t work for me, I guess it needs Microsoft Exchange 
or Office 365 to work. It’s sad that Outlook cant choose the right address from 
its own (it does this only if the address was added through a mailbox, not if 
you added it manually).

One remaining Question is the Mobile Client – which one do you use to have this 
functionality on mobile devices? I guess outlook wont do it; has anyone tried 
nine, for example?


- Alwin Sonnemann




Von: Support 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2019 18:44
An: users@sogo.nu; WebMan [Technik] 
Betreff: Re: [SOGo] Questions about SOGo

Hello

You can tell us the configuration that you adapt on your devices to be sure 
that you are not mistaken in the process...
Yours sincerely
Michel
Le Mercredi, Novembre 06, 2019 17:26 CET, "Anselm Martin Hoffmeister" 
(ans...@hoffmeister.be) 
mailto:users@sogo.nu>> a écrit:



Hi Alwin,



we have quite a similar setup here. As most colleagues here have several 
"identities" (which is, they work for both companies sharing this office space) 
and mail should be sent with the corresponding signature, depending on the 
original incoming address, the mail program must select the correct identity on 
reply.

Luckily for us, Thunderbird does exactly this. As you noticed, the webmailer 
also looks into the original mail and selects an appropriate "identity".



So this is obviously a mail user agent thing, in the first place at least. I am 
aware of huge differences between Outlook versions out there, and at least that 
Outlook 2016 that my PC has (and that is not opened more than once a year, 
luckily) seems not to do a proper matching. I guess you should look into the 
options that Outlook (+AddOns) might offer here, rather than on the server-side.



It seems that some people achieved to have Thunderbird-like "identities" in 
Outlook by creating more that one account (and disabling all but the first 
one). I did not read though wether the automatic choice of sender address came 
with this.

You might want to have a look at 
https://www.ivasoft.com/smartreply2010.shtml
 (not affiliated to it, just a google result), which seems to quite match your 
request (add-on comes at 50$/workstation). So there seems to be a lack of 
functionality in Outlook, and someone makes a living off this.



For emClient, I cannot tell, as I never used that one, sorry.



On the other hand you can do all kinds of smart or stupid things in rewriting 
outgoing mails on the server. I would recommend against that approach, as the 
reply mail does not necessarily bear the information of the original target 
mail address. You would have to store this on the "way in", with the message 
id, and in the outgoing mail, lookup the "Message-Reply-ID" (or similar header 
field) and find the address to insert from your database. Yes this is possible, 
and a rather ugly hack! E.g. in an Exim setup, you might add a "router" there 
to pass your mail into some manipulation scripts, and probably insert some bad 
bugs into mail handling while doing so. BTDT.



BR

Anselm





Am 06.11.2019 um 08:44 schrieb "WebMan [Technik]" 
(tech...@webman.de):

Hello,



we are currently converting our mailsystem to SOGo. We have a few questions. 
Maybe someone can answer me if this is possible.



In our e-mails, we have tried to create a specific structure:

  *   There is a main mailbox with some aliases (created in SOGo)
  *   The mails sent to this alias are automatically moved to a subfolder in 
the same mailbox

Now it gets difficult:

  *   If one of these mails is answered, the client (for example, Outlook or em 
Client) should automatically select the address to which the mail was sent

 *   The aliases (as sender addresses) could also be sent automatically by 
the server to the client. Then he could make the choice easily.

*   Is there perhaps a SOGo plugin to do that?
*   Where can I even see / browse the available SOGo plugins?

 *   It would be okay to create the addresses manually, but the client 
would still have to select them automatically (but unfortunately that does not 
work right now).

*   Maybe there is an Outlook plugin?

 *   There is this functionality in the webmailer. It just works like we 
want it to.

If that does not work:

  *   Is there a possibility to set a manually added sender address (alias) as 
default? Unfortunately

Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird 68

[John Bieling]

TbSync supports NextCloud (or any CalDAV/CardDAV server), so that could
be an alternative.

John




On 07.11.2019 10:12, olvy prad (olivy.p...@yahoo.com) wrote:

Hi Christian

Currently, Nextcloud synchronization is not supported by SOGO connector.
Is it planned or definitively not ?


Regards
Olivier
Le jeudi 7 novembre 2019 à 10:07:53 UTC+1, Christian Mack
 a écrit :


Hello

Inverse developers are aware of the signing of add-ons in the future.
Configuration within Thunderbird is planned.
It is not there, because noone implemented its visual interface.
The pressing problem right now was to get it working again.

I do not know the priority that has.
Therefore no estimate from me on when this gets implemented.


Kind regards,
Christian Mack

Am 30.10.19 um 17:27 schrieb Stefan Klatt
(stefan.kl...@cac-netzwerk.de ):
> Hi Christian,
>
> To customize the could be a problem if Thunderbird checks the signature
> (now or probably in near future).
> Why it isn't possible to use a external configuration, like a file or a
> Thunderbird configuration option?
>
> Regards
>
> Stefan
>
> Am 28.10.2019 um 16:45 schrieb Christian Mack
> (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de
):
>> Hello
>>
>> Am 23.10.19 um 09:41 schrieb olvy prad (olivy.p...@yahoo.com
):
>>> I'm using your plugin with nextcloud calddav/cardav server . so,is
it the same thing to create custom/mysite ?
>>> and I have an error "Plugin is not compatible with Thunderbir
68.1.1" whith the master branch...
>>>
>> CalDAV is handled by Lightning in Thunderbird.
>> It is used for synchronizing calendars with servers.
>> CardDAV is used by many backends for address book synchronization.
>> There is no built in support for cardDAV in Thunderbird.
>>
>> "SOGo Connector" is such a cardDAV implementation.
>> The "SOGo Connector" Add-On is currently under development, in order to
>> make it run under Thunderbird 68+.
>> That is not easy, as multiple APIs have changed.
>> Additionally the sandboxing of Add-Ons was introduced.
>> Because of that Add-Ons are no longer able to communicate directly with
>> each other.
>> Therefore "SOGo Connector" is now merged with "SOGo Integrator".
>> "SOGo Integrator" adds some functionality like calendar and addressbook
>> auto discovering, managing of share privileges and synchronizing of
>> calendar and addressbook colors.
>> "SOGo Integrator" has to be manually customized before
installation, and
>> only supports SOGo as backend.
>> That is the reason, that the current implementation will only run with
>> SOGo as backend.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Christian Mack
>>
>


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Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird 68

[olvy prad]

 Hi Christian
Currently, Nextcloud synchronization is not supported by SOGO connector.Is it 
planned or definitively not ?

Regards
Olivier
Le jeudi 7 novembre 2019 à 10:07:53 UTC+1, Christian Mack  a 
écrit :  
 
 Hello

Inverse developers are aware of the signing of add-ons in the future.
Configuration within Thunderbird is planned.
It is not there, because noone implemented its visual interface.
The pressing problem right now was to get it working again.

I do not know the priority that has.
Therefore no estimate from me on when this gets implemented.


Kind regards,
Christian Mack

Am 30.10.19 um 17:27 schrieb Stefan Klatt (stefan.kl...@cac-netzwerk.de):
> Hi Christian,
> 
> To customize the could be a problem if Thunderbird checks the signature
> (now or probably in near future).
> Why it isn't possible to use a external configuration, like a file or a
> Thunderbird configuration option?
>  
> Regards
> 
> Stefan
> 
> Am 28.10.2019 um 16:45 schrieb Christian Mack
> (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de):
>> Hello
>>
>> Am 23.10.19 um 09:41 schrieb olvy prad (olivy.p...@yahoo.com):
>>> I'm using your plugin with nextcloud calddav/cardav server . so,is it the 
>>> same thing to create custom/mysite ?
>>> and I have an error "Plugin is not compatible with Thunderbir 68.1.1" whith 
>>> the master branch...
>>>
>> CalDAV is handled by Lightning in Thunderbird.
>> It is used for synchronizing calendars with servers.
>> CardDAV is used by many backends for address book synchronization.
>> There is no built in support for cardDAV in Thunderbird.
>>
>> "SOGo Connector" is such a cardDAV implementation.
>> The "SOGo Connector" Add-On is currently under development, in order to
>> make it run under Thunderbird 68+.
>> That is not easy, as multiple APIs have changed.
>> Additionally the sandboxing of Add-Ons was introduced.
>> Because of that Add-Ons are no longer able to communicate directly with
>> each other.
>> Therefore "SOGo Connector" is now merged with "SOGo Integrator".
>> "SOGo Integrator" adds some functionality like calendar and addressbook
>> auto discovering, managing of share privileges and synchronizing of
>> calendar and addressbook colors.
>> "SOGo Integrator" has to be manually customized before installation, and
>> only supports SOGo as backend.
>> That is the reason, that the current implementation will only run with
>> SOGo as backend.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Christian Mack
>>
> 


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