Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird 31
Hi, we also sturggling with a problem thant since the upgrade our users can't see the appointments they add, also if they delete an apopointment they still can see it. On the webmailer, all works as expected. I'd like to replace thunderbird completely, but we still need it for scan to mail and stuff like that. Cheers Juergen Am Freitag, 01. August 2014 18:31 CEST, Georg Mülleder schor...@vrvis.at schrieb: Hi, For anyone experiencing the aforementioned issue, please take a look at this: http://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=2870 I have attached a patch to the ticket which works for us. regards, schorsch On 24/07/14 16:38, Charles Marcus wrote: On 7/24/2014 9:41 AM, Adi Kriegisch a...@cg.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hey! Overall it appears to be working... I just got an error where auto completion does not work when composing a mail: in sogo-connec...@inverse.ca.xpi!/components/SOGoConnectorAutocompleteSearch.js Line: 326 Error: _parser.makeFullAddress is not a function. Any ideas? Autocomplete works fine here (Windows 7 x64)... Interesting... Wherefrom did you get sogo-connector? In the github repo it still uses makeFullAddress which does not exist in TB31 any more. Same 24.0.5 we downloaded from the inverse website when it was released... We do use Integrator too (if that matters)... -- Georg Mülleder, (Sysadmin) VRVis Forschungs-GmbH, www.VRVis.at, FN: 195369h, HG Wien mail: schor...@vrvis.at, tel +43(0)1 20501 30107 -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Jürgen EchterECHTER Küchen Elektro GmbH Augsburger Str. 49 86529 Schrobenhausen Tel: 08252 / 8976 - 0 Fax: 08252 / 8976 - 10 e-mail: i...@echter-kuechen-elektro.de web: www.echter-kuechen-elektro.deReg.-Gericht: Ingolstadt Nr. HR B 101907 Ust.-Id. Nr.: DE234419866 Steuernummer: 124/125/51166 Geschäftsführer: Thomas Echter-- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.
I'll play around. Like I said as long as I can manage from the command line I can make a nice seto of open source tools for us. Mark Madere s...@expandingcommunication.com wrote: M, I am not sure what you mean by public folders. But if you are referring to a shared address book then SOGo can do that. My team shares several books which are owned by one user. The users who are sharing the books can add and edit cards. I understand that you could survive with a non AD source for users. But I still don't know of a one that comes with an admin tool except for the one that I built myself. But my tool is not suited for your purposes. Mark Original Message Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013 07:37 PM CST From: administrator administra...@flmiami.com Reply-To: users@sogo.nu To: 'users@sogo.nu' users@sogo.nu References: A23FCDBC17D7284EA99F3944077D04B8B11E4A04@EXG-2010-2.Madison.local2eb4-5126c300-15-4e9ff080@101738412 I see what you mean, we only really need 1 set of contacts (Not the active directory ones). It's a contact list, created in a public folder. That is then configured to be the main contact list on all machines with outlook. Forgot to ask if public folders are supported, that's the only single item that would be useful to create. We don't need to store emails or notes etc... We have hundreds of AD users that we don't care to see for other types of access, we just have 10 mailbox users. I don't want this machine to have anything to do with any windows machine. I'm eliminating dependencies so even if the entire domain goes down, outlook and it's mail authentication will keep rolling happily along. I know all too well that when anything goes wrong at the active directory/exchange level, it's not just a little problem, it's catastrophic and time consuming. This is my new strategy so that rebooting servers won't affect other servers for stuff that doesn't need that much integration. -M -Original Message- From: Mark Madere [mailto:s...@expandingcommunication.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:59 PM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. Are you using Active directory to mange your exchange users? If so you can point SOGo at your AD server and manage your users the same way you always have. I think rolling cyrus + postfix + OpenChange is an uphill battle. And it won't provide you with an admin tool. Also, are you sure your users don't want/use calendars and contacts? I like sleep too, Mark Original Message Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013 03:48 PM CST From: administrator administra...@flmiami.com Me personally, it's a personal quest to abolish all things not open source from my workplace (I'm the IT admin/programmer/database/mail guy). I've got spiceworks taking care of watching my network and inventory, and exchange deciding not to send mail on random days at around 11am without reason or any real help in the logs. I've already moved from SCO OpenServer 5 - Ubuntu 8.04 and had great success, this is the next logical step. I knew what it was from the start, it's basically just a webmail type website that works with a bunch of common mail servers and other projects allowing for outlook connections. In my case my only benefit would be sleep, and I like sleeping. I was kind of hoping it would just work like webmin, but I see your point about people wanting to roll out their own solutions. At this point I'm just wondering if I can just do cyrus + postfix + OpenChange. I only need IMAP,MAPI,SMTP,DNS (to make it independent), backups and built in authentication. To be honest, the less the better. Please correct me if I'm mistaken and cannot do the 3 things above without sogo gluing them together. I realize some people need a web interface, we got outlook and phones so we don't need that. -Original Message- From: Wayland Sothcott [mailto:wayl...@sothcott.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:50 PM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. On 21/02/2013 18:39, Mark Madere wrote: Greetings, I have looked through all the posts on this topic and I would like to add my two cents (, as we say in the US). I think many people commenting on this thread misunderstand SOGo and ZEG. From the ZEG download page: The ZEG (Zero Effort Groupware) edition of SOGo is intended to provide a complete out-of-the-box testing environment of SOGo, the Open Source messaging and calendaring software. From the SOGo home page: SOGo is fully supported and trusted groupware server
RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.
Me personally, it's a personal quest to abolish all things not open source from my workplace (I'm the IT admin/programmer/database/mail guy). I've got spiceworks taking care of watching my network and inventory, and exchange deciding not to send mail on random days at around 11am without reason or any real help in the logs. I've already moved from SCO OpenServer 5 - Ubuntu 8.04 and had great success, this is the next logical step. I knew what it was from the start, it's basically just a webmail type website that works with a bunch of common mail servers and other projects allowing for outlook connections. In my case my only benefit would be sleep, and I like sleeping. I was kind of hoping it would just work like webmin, but I see your point about people wanting to roll out their own solutions. At this point I'm just wondering if I can just do cyrus + postfix + OpenChange. I only need IMAP,MAPI,SMTP,DNS (to make it independent), backups and built in authentication. To be honest, the less the better. Please correct me if I'm mistaken and cannot do the 3 things above without sogo gluing them together. I realize some people need a web interface, we got outlook and phones so we don't need that. -Original Message- From: Wayland Sothcott [mailto:wayl...@sothcott.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:50 PM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. On 21/02/2013 18:39, Mark Madere wrote: Greetings, I have looked through all the posts on this topic and I would like to add my two cents (, as we say in the US). I think many people commenting on this thread misunderstand SOGo and ZEG. From the ZEG download page: The ZEG (Zero Effort Groupware) edition of SOGo is intended to provide a complete out-of-the-box testing environment of SOGo, the Open Source messaging and calendaring software. From the SOGo home page: SOGo is fully supported and trusted groupware server with a focus on scalability and open standards. ... SOGo is the missing component of your infrastructure; it sits in the middle of your servers to offer your users an uniform and complete interface to access their information. So what does that mean? It means ZEG is a virtual appliance to help you understand how SOGo works so you can setup your own servers. It means that SOGo is not a mail server. It is not a directory server. It is not a database server. It means that it has no users to manage. If you are looking to use a testing environment like ZEG as a production server I think you will be disappointed that it lacks the features required for production. If you are looking to build your own production server, then SOGo can be a great component along side other components. The beauty of SOGo is that it can be configured to work with many systems. And because of that there is no way that SOGo can manage users from every directory/database/posix/etc. server. It is up to each administrator to setup and manage their mail servers, users accounts, databases, etc.. the way they want. I hope this helps clarify what ZEG and SOGo are, and what they are not. Mark ps: If you are looking for turn-key solutions that includes SOGo, there are companies that can help you with that. If you want to roll your own solution and need help Inverse can provide you commercial support. I think you have explained what we all know very well and it is the problem we are trying to solve. We want to roll our own turn key solution. I don't know where open source software comes from or why. However I think it's significant that the components are free but putting it together into something someone can use costs money. I want to build servers for my customers and charge them money. However I don't mind freely helping people with what I have learned so they can build servers for their customers. If someone is making money from charging us server builders money so we can build servers, they are not going to be very happy if we figure out how to help each other for free. Hence why ZEG is not a full turn key solution. If it was an ISO it would be closer, hence it's a VM. I think I probably need to change my entire world view. -- Mobile: 07925 431381 Office: 01787 388165 -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.
I see what you mean, we only really need 1 set of contacts (Not the active directory ones). It's a contact list, created in a public folder. That is then configured to be the main contact list on all machines with outlook. Forgot to ask if public folders are supported, that's the only single item that would be useful to create. We don't need to store emails or notes etc... We have hundreds of AD users that we don't care to see for other types of access, we just have 10 mailbox users. I don't want this machine to have anything to do with any windows machine. I'm eliminating dependencies so even if the entire domain goes down, outlook and it's mail authentication will keep rolling happily along. I know all too well that when anything goes wrong at the active directory/exchange level, it's not just a little problem, it's catastrophic and time consuming. This is my new strategy so that rebooting servers won't affect other servers for stuff that doesn't need that much integration. -M -Original Message- From: Mark Madere [mailto:s...@expandingcommunication.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:59 PM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. Are you using Active directory to mange your exchange users? If so you can point SOGo at your AD server and manage your users the same way you always have. I think rolling cyrus + postfix + OpenChange is an uphill battle. And it won't provide you with an admin tool. Also, are you sure your users don't want/use calendars and contacts? I like sleep too, Mark Original Message Subject: RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013 03:48 PM CST From: administrator administra...@flmiami.com Me personally, it's a personal quest to abolish all things not open source from my workplace (I'm the IT admin/programmer/database/mail guy). I've got spiceworks taking care of watching my network and inventory, and exchange deciding not to send mail on random days at around 11am without reason or any real help in the logs. I've already moved from SCO OpenServer 5 - Ubuntu 8.04 and had great success, this is the next logical step. I knew what it was from the start, it's basically just a webmail type website that works with a bunch of common mail servers and other projects allowing for outlook connections. In my case my only benefit would be sleep, and I like sleeping. I was kind of hoping it would just work like webmin, but I see your point about people wanting to roll out their own solutions. At this point I'm just wondering if I can just do cyrus + postfix + OpenChange. I only need IMAP,MAPI,SMTP,DNS (to make it independent), backups and built in authentication. To be honest, the less the better. Please correct me if I'm mistaken and cannot do the 3 things above without sogo gluing them together. I realize some people need a web interface, we got outlook and phones so we don't need that. -Original Message- From: Wayland Sothcott [mailto:wayl...@sothcott.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:50 PM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. On 21/02/2013 18:39, Mark Madere wrote: Greetings, I have looked through all the posts on this topic and I would like to add my two cents (, as we say in the US). I think many people commenting on this thread misunderstand SOGo and ZEG. From the ZEG download page: The ZEG (Zero Effort Groupware) edition of SOGo is intended to provide a complete out-of-the-box testing environment of SOGo, the Open Source messaging and calendaring software. From the SOGo home page: SOGo is fully supported and trusted groupware server with a focus on scalability and open standards. ... SOGo is the missing component of your infrastructure; it sits in the middle of your servers to offer your users an uniform and complete interface to access their information. So what does that mean? It means ZEG is a virtual appliance to help you understand how SOGo works so you can setup your own servers. It means that SOGo is not a mail server. It is not a directory server. It is not a database server. It means that it has no users to manage. If you are looking to use a testing environment like ZEG as a production server I think you will be disappointed that it lacks the features required for production. If you are looking to build your own production server, then SOGo can be a great component along side other components. The beauty of SOGo is that it can be configured to work with many systems. And because of that there is no way that SOGo can manage users from every directory/database/posix/etc. server. It is up to each administrator to setup and manage their mail servers, users accounts
[SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.
SOGo looks promising, but the sheer amount of bad user interfaces to manage it and stuff like that is staggering. What was I expecting? 1) Install the ZEG appliance, at first login tell me the management url: http://192.x.x.x/SOGo 2) I should have been able to log in as sogo to begin with in the web interface 3) From there, I should be able to just type in a list of domains to accept mail for and their settings 4) Also from there I should be able to easily create users for each mail domain (sorta like the windows user manager, at least M$ got that part right) 5) Other misc configs. And scripts to do the same stuff easily from the commandline without having to remember what back ends you were using What I'm proposing: Since I only do vb.net I'm kinda screwed in a way because linux mainly supports c#, perl, php, that kind of stuff. Except for the gambas IDE, and bash shell scripts and tools. But even with that, I'd be willing to give it a shot to make a simple user interface to make managing this thing as simple as IIS6 and the local users and groups is on windows. I mean ideally someone would just finish their webmin module but I've got what I've got. What I need from you guys: All the command line stuff you know to manage things. -Add/Delete New user -Add/Delete New mailbox Etc... It's practically faster for me to make the program than figure this stuff out. -K -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.
How are people managing this from day to day right now? From reading the instructions it probably goes something like this: a) Someone needs a new box b) Admin guy takes about a good 10 - 15 mins trying to remember the commands, probably stumbles around a bit c) Admin guy tries to iron out the problems because of missed steps or misspellings I was thinking of programming it all in asp.net running (in apache since I'm guessing most linux distros can install that without an x desktop. I can somewhat easily convert vb.net - c# and use the stuff I'm used to. I've written console apps before as well in windows that run in linux using mono. You guys can help start making a list of all the commands you guys use on a regular basis, or to change settings etc... After that, anyone can write a front end without having to know what's in the back end like postfix/cyrus. I can make android and windows app ones, I hate writing web apps though so I'll leave that to someone else. The android one interests me because I get most of my annoying support calls in the mornings and I don't really want to get out of bed for some email problem when I can go right back to sleep. -K From: Wayland Sothcott [mailto:wayl...@sothcott.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:47 PM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. On 20/02/2013 21:38, administrator wrote: SOGo looks promising, but the sheer amount of bad user interfaces to manage it and stuff like that is staggering. What was I expecting? 1) Install the ZEG appliance, at first login tell me the management url: http://192.x.x.x/SOGo 2) I should have been able to log in as sogo to begin with in the web interface 3) From there, I should be able to just type in a list of domains to accept mail for and their settings 4) Also from there I should be able to easily create users for each mail domain (sorta like the windows user manager, at least M$ got that part right) 5) Other misc configs. And scripts to do the same stuff easily from the commandline without having to remember what back ends you were using What I'm proposing: Since I only do vb.net I'm kinda screwed in a way because linux mainly supports c#, perl, php, that kind of stuff. Except for the gambas IDE, and bash shell scripts and tools. But even with that, I'd be willing to give it a shot to make a simple user interface to make managing this thing as simple as IIS6 and the local users and groups is on windows. I mean ideally someone would just finish their webmin module but I've got what I've got. What I need from you guys: All the command line stuff you know to manage things. -Add/Delete New user -Add/Delete New mailbox Etc... It's practically faster for me to make the program than figure this stuff out. -K I am trying to solve this also. Not from the position of writing the interface but of finding one that someone has done. As well as looking at SOGo I am also looking at z-push. This can be integrated with a server running Debian and ISPConfig. However z-push only works with mobile devices and not Outlook. It is a bit of a nightmare making a good solution. Zentyal comes with Zarafa which has z-push but you don't get native Outlook compatibility and need a licensed connector to install into Outlook. -- Mobile: 07925 431381 Office: 01787 388165 -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.
Looks very nice from the screen shots, simple and familiar looking. Pretty efficient approach too. I'll check it out later tonight. I haven't created any user who can log into sogo yet though, it looked ludicrous. I wrote a script as I was reading because it was complicated to follow. Maybe someone will find it useful. I haven't tested it yet, I was gonna create my first user with it but haven't had a minute. I called it add_ldap_user.sh # SYNTAX: # create_user_ldap jdoe John Doe j...@example.com # VARIABLES THAT ARE MUCH EASIER TO READ USERID=$1 FIRSTNAME=$2 LASTNAME=$3 FULLNAME=$2 $3 EMAIL=$4 # EMAIL DOMAIN SETTINGS OU=users DC1=example DC2=com # FILE AND FOLDER SETTINGS USERFOLDER=~\users USERFILE=$USERFOLDER\$1.ldif # CREATE A USER FOLDER TO STORE THE LDIF FILES mkdir $USERFOLDER # CREATE THE LDIF FILE echo dn: uid=$USERID,ou=$OU,dc=$DC1,dc=$DC2 \n $USERFILE echo objectClass: top \n $USERFILE echo objectClass: inetOrgPerson \n $USERFILE echo objectClass: person \n $USERFILE echo objectclass: organizationalPerson \n $USERFILE echo uid: $USERID \n $USERPROFILE echo cn: $FULLNAME \n $USERPROFILE echo mail: $EMAIL \n $USERPROFILE echo sn: $LASTNAME \n $USERPROFILE echo givenName: $FIRSTNAME $USERPROFILE # LOAD THE LDIF INTO LDAP ldapadd -f $USERFILE -x -w qwerty -D cn=Manager,dc=$DC1,dc=$DC2 ldappasswd -h localhost -x -w qwerty -D cn=Manager,dc=$DC1,dc=$DC2 cn=Manager,dc=$DC1,dc=$DC2 uid=$USERID,ou=$OU,dc=$DC1,dc=$DC2 -s -Original Message- From: Romain LE DISEZ [mailto:rom...@ledisez.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 5:01 PM To: users@sogo.nu Cc: Wayland Sothcott Subject: Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. Hello, I wrote this few months ago: https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists/arc/users/2012-10/msg00218.html Accounts management works fine. Other modules are not implemented for now. I'm interested to keep this project alive, but if nobody uses it it will surely die. It clearly lacks of documentation. If you want to test it, just tell me and I'll write it. Tell me if you're interested to test/contribute/... Source code is still here: https://github.com/rledisez/SOGoAccountsManager -- Romain LE DISEZ -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
RE: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands.
This is where my confusion is, since I couldn't log into the sogo web page as sogo as I expected: a) If I'm making a user with a mailbox, is it a linux/Ubuntu user? Or Is it an ldap user? Both? b) What component actually stores the mailboxes and creates them? (cyrus I'm guessing?) sogo is my admin user, and that's cool. But it didn't appear to come with a mailbox. I use active directory ldap tools all the time, but webmin is just a bunch of textboxes for managing LDAP. This is why when I saw the account manager my eyes sparkled. All I'm trying to do is change my mail receiving domain - flmiami.com Create a new mailbox called 'administra...@flmiami.com' I see install guides, but not really admin guides for actually doing day to day stuff. It's the ZEG version. I believe Ubuntu + Cyrus + LDAP Server + PostgreSQL + SOGo -Original Message- From: Steve Ankeny [mailto:stev...@cinergymetro.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 6:06 PM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: Re: [SOGo] Help needed, making a real admin tool for SOGO, needs commands. Forgive my ignorance, but I think you're making it too difficult! I am not familiar with changing the domain (had that done by Inverse) However, creating new users was a cinch with 'webmin' You simply cloned the existing 'sogo' user and changed all the particulars necessary. Then you created the mailbox in 'cyrus,' and it was done. Works wonderfully! And, doesn't take all the work discussed here. After that, it was simply a matter of installing the lightning, connector and integrator extensions in TB And, if you run Outlook, you simply point to the right ip_address, and Outlook takes care of the rest. Again, sorry for my ignorance. I think it would be great to create an administrative module for 'webmin' that changed the domain (integrated with 'Samba') and created users, but it shouldn't be hard. The work submitted by Romain looks very good to me! If anything, that work should be supported. On 02/20/2013 05:24 PM, administrator wrote: Looks very nice from the screen shots, simple and familiar looking. Pretty efficient approach too. I'll check it out later tonight. I haven't created any user who can log into sogo yet though, it looked ludicrous. I wrote a script as I was reading because it was complicated to follow. Maybe someone will find it useful. I haven't tested it yet, I was gonna create my first user with it but haven't had a minute. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
[SOGo] HowTo: SOGo ZEG Appliance to Physical Machine over LAN
You guys are gonna love me for this. :) It's a little something I picked up and built upon when I first started doing P2V and V2P transitions for my first Ubuntu server. Purely over the network SOGo Appliance - You will need: An unbuntu 'desktop' ISO, as well as a physically burned disc. Virtualbox on some pc, a new target physical machine (doesn't matter what's on it, but it's contents will be replaced.) 1) Import the SOGo ZEG appliance into virtualbox 2) Change the cd-rom image loaded into that appliance vm - the Ubuntu desktop cd 3) fire it up and let it boot to the live desktop 4) fire up the target machine using the Ubuntu live desktop cd (bridged networking enabled) 5) On the VM, type the following into the command line: sudo su apt-get install pv dd if=/dev/hda | pv |gzip -9 | nc -l -p 6) On the target pc's console (in the Ubuntu desktop live environment, replace the /dev/hda with your target hard drive. In my case I only had 1 hd on my target test physical box) sudo su apt-get install pv nc 192.168.0.1 | gunzip -d | pv | dd of=/dev/had note: the replace the ip above with the ip of the vm.and /dev/hda with your target drive 7) Open up gparted (you might have to reboot), resize the partition to full disk size and you're done the new pc. :) Only one wasted disc, progress visible. Also works on just specific partitions or to make disc images. The volumes being copied to/from cannot be mounted. This will also work for upgrading to a completely new server etc... it's not specific to anything except that it's linux with a linux-generic kernel image (unless you want to feel pain). -Kanaida -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
[SOGo] RE: HowTo: SOGo ZEG Appliance to Physical Machine over LAN
Post (ubuntu) Config: Find out what the ethX number it detected, or that you want to use with: Ifconfig -a Edit this file: replace eth0 with eth1 or whatever you want. Reboot. Network will work now. sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces I pre-installed webmin and a few other things on my vm prior to cloning. From: administrator [mailto:administra...@flmiami.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:59 PM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: [SOGo] HowTo: SOGo ZEG Appliance to Physical Machine over LAN Importance: High You guys are gonna love me for this. :) It's a little something I picked up and built upon when I first started doing P2V and V2P transitions for my first Ubuntu server. Purely over the network SOGo Appliance - You will need: An unbuntu 'desktop' ISO, as well as a physically burned disc. Virtualbox on some pc, a new target physical machine (doesn't matter what's on it, but it's contents will be replaced.) 1) Import the SOGo ZEG appliance into virtualbox 2) Change the cd-rom image loaded into that appliance vm - the Ubuntu desktop cd 3) fire it up and let it boot to the live desktop 4) fire up the target machine using the Ubuntu live desktop cd (bridged networking enabled) 5) On the VM, type the following into the command line: sudo su apt-get install pv dd if=/dev/hda | pv |gzip -9 | nc -l -p 6) On the target pc's console (in the Ubuntu desktop live environment, replace the /dev/hda with your target hard drive. In my case I only had 1 hd on my target test physical box) sudo su apt-get install pv nc 192.168.0.1 | gunzip -d | pv | dd of=/dev/had note: the replace the ip above with the ip of the vm.and /dev/hda with your target drive 7) Open up gparted (you might have to reboot), resize the partition to full disk size and you're done the new pc. :) Only one wasted disc, progress visible. Also works on just specific partitions or to make disc images. The volumes being copied to/from cannot be mounted. This will also work for upgrading to a completely new server etc... it's not specific to anything except that it's linux with a linux-generic kernel image (unless you want to feel pain). -Kanaida -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
RE: [SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04
Do you know if the ZEG appliance can be cloned to a real server easily? (the Ubuntu one already set up with outlook mapi) I was thinking just dumping the virtual machine's hard disk image to a ghost image etc... then just ghosting that over to a real hard drive, sticking it into the server and seeing if it boots. That way I just have to mess with configs. -K -Original Message- From: Steve Ankeny [mailto:stev...@cinergymetro.net] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:49 AM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: Re: [SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04 Did you install 'sope?' And, have you considered the ZEG appliance? It would give you a good test before doing it yourself. On 02/15/2013 09:05 PM, administrator wrote: Hey guys, I'm trying to install sogo for the first time. I want to rip apart my exchange 2010 server(s). They have proven very unstable, no matter what you do. This morning for no reason mail stopped flowing all together, no errors in the logs, only a reboot fixed it. I'm tired of getting calls in the morning. Time to format and try something new. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
RE: [SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04
Since EXI/ESXI? Server didn't work with my own hardware, I built a massive monster set of servers with a core i7 24+ GB ram each, WIN2K8 Hosts, running Vmware server 2.0. However nightly windows backups of about 10 VM's really takes a strain on vmware server's performance, so for brief periods machines become undersponsive during that time. I was messing around with virtualbox 4.2 in headless mode so I can measure how much better the performance is, plus I can assign an unlimited number of cpu cores and it's free. ESX server is just linux with a hypervisor on top anyways, nothing really native about it like they say it is, so I'm assuming virtualbox will have similar performance on Ubuntu 12.04. The other benefit will be the linux block level caching that windows doesn't have. The unusual requirement that is a bit too much for a VM is the fact that we have jumbo shared inboxes (Shipping/Support etc...) where each one has about 10 people using the same box simultaneously, and they do searches all the time when the DB's are 200GB+ sometimes. Mail is just one of those things that I want to completely isolate from my active directly and windows infrastructure now. Since we only have about 10 actual email accounts anyways. This way if the domain controller isn't up before the mail server, there's no messed up authentication, etc... This is a problem I often have when it comes to windows, having too many things relying on each other makes for headaches after power outages etc. Windows updates being the worst. So the idea is one independent box, it's own Open LDAP, it's own DNS (copying my internal zone from my windows dns) and then deleting my existing mail servers. At some point, if I find Ubuntu is a stable active directory replacement, get rid of each windows server one by one (if possible). For vm's at least the hosts being Ubuntu also. -K -Original Message- From: Steve Ankeny [mailto:stev...@cinergymetro.net] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:10 PM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: Re: [SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04 Don't overlook the power of a virtual machine! We take regular snapshots of our configuration, so as to be able to return if needed. It does not backup the mail by itself but it allows us to backup/restore within minutes if something should happen (power outage, etc.) It helped us when we did the upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 to 12.04 It's a powerful way to backup/restore a system. We're using VMware ESXi 5 as the base OS for our HP Proliant (with two instances of Windows Server 2008 and the ZEG), but VirtualBox works as well. On 02/18/2013 11:11 AM, administrator wrote: Do you know if the ZEG appliance can be cloned to a real server easily? (the Ubuntu one already set up with outlook mapi) I was thinking just dumping the virtual machine's hard disk image to a ghost image etc... then just ghosting that over to a real hard drive, sticking it into the server and seeing if it boots. That way I just have to mess with configs. -K -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
RE: [SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04
Thanks, Currently I do have them on a different storage server :) The first 2010 exchage is a vm (client access), the second 2010 exchange is solely for storage. Currently I don't have a storage bottleneck (raid 10 does miracles with cheap Samsung spinpoint drives and an areca controller). That's good that sogo has built in users, that's all I cared for anyways as far as using the active directory. I'd rather the sogo box be up if everything else windows suddenly dies. The advantage will be taking the storage server and throwing sogo on it by itself and removing the other exchange vm. I just created a sogo live iso, I'm not seeing it boot to an installer though... just drops me to the prompt after booting (wich is good at least). It's using the linux-generic kernel wich is also really good so it will boot on anything. I'm considering doing a tar backup inside the sogo vm, then restoring the backup to my fresh 10.04 box and overwrite the whole thing over the network. Does anyone else have any comments on outlook performance on huge 100GB+ mailboxes? And if there's any kind of limit as to the maximum size of a mailbox or database? -Original Message- From: Steve Ankeny [mailto:stev...@cinergymetro.net] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:38 PM To: users@sogo.nu Subject: Re: [SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04 10VMs are a lot of nightly backup! We use VMware ESXi 5 on an HP Proliant (24GB RAM, AMD Quad-Core, 1.2T) with the following: Windows Server 2008R2 RDC (every user connects with RDP) Windows Server 2008R2 SQL (our accounting apps use MS-SQL) SOGo ZEG (starting as Ubuntu 11.04 now 12.04 and latest 'sogo) It sounds like you need to simplify your architecture (with only 10 accounts) (we have 8 accounts) Converting the ZEG to an ISO would allow you to install it with more disk space (to facilitate the shared accounts that require a large amount of disk space) Maybe that's where the savings should come! A large disk space requirement in a VM still requires a lot of resources for backup. It appears the size of the shared mailboxes precludes doing backups of snapshots. We are not using Active Directory or Samba (we want to use Samba4 domain functions) Right now, authentication is strictly by LDAP on the 'sogo' box, but each Windows machine requires accounts. Domain functions will simply allow us to synchronize account parameters, and we're not there yet. It may not matter whether you use VMware or VirtualBox, but if it can be installed natively via the ISO, that might work better for disk space needs. Maybe you can point the shared mailboxes to a separate storage server? It might make backup easier to do incremental backups of the mailboxes only. Or, just do a mirror on the separate storage server? We define 'dns' on our gateway and ip_phone devices (6-7 phones, 15-20 ip_addresses plus wlan) We have a separate storage server which we use for backup (Novaback on the Windows side) We've taken 'dns' and other network services away from the Windows boxes, but we define the printers via the Remote Desktop Connection (terminal services) on the Windows RDC Server. Everybody uses the same applications (with some lockdown on certain apps or files/folders) Our ZEG does 'ldap' authentication and mail services. We want to use it as a Samba domain later, but we will have to install Samba4 (as it was not originally in the ZEG) and configure user accounts. We're using a mix of Windows 7 and (two) Linux Mint clients. We have one PIII-386 Linux Thinstation that works better than the Windows clients! It's amazing. It sounds like the bottleneck in your environment are the large shared mail accounts. Move them to a separate storage server (point the mailboxes via 'webmin') and you should free up resources. Just a thought On 02/18/2013 03:20 PM, administrator wrote: Since EXI/ESXI? Server didn't work with my own hardware, I built a massive monster set of servers with a core i7 24+ GB ram each, WIN2K8 Hosts, running Vmware server 2.0. However nightly windows backups of about 10 VM's really takes a strain on vmware server's performance, so for brief periods machines become undersponsive during that time. I was messing around with virtualbox 4.2 in headless mode so I can measure how much better the performance is, plus I can assign an unlimited number of cpu cores and it's free. ESX server is just linux with a hypervisor on top anyways, nothing really native about it like they say it is, so I'm assuming virtualbox will have similar performance on Ubuntu 12.04. The other benefit will be the linux block level caching that windows doesn't have. The unusual requirement that is a bit too much for a VM is the fact that we have jumbo shared inboxes (Shipping/Support etc...) where each one has about 10 people using the same box simultaneously, and they do searches all the time when the DB's are 200GB+ sometimes
[SOGo] Problem First time installing sogo on Ubuntu 12.04
Hey guys, I'm trying to install sogo for the first time. I want to rip apart my exchange 2010 server(s). They have proven very unstable, no matter what you do. This morning for no reason mail stopped flowing all together, no errors in the logs, only a reboot fixed it. I'm tired of getting calls in the morning. Time to format and try something new. My requirements are the following: a) Outlook access for about 12 computers b) IMAP/Mobile access for a tons of iphones/androids etc... c) 5 Backups, one for each weekday d) Support for extremely large mailboxes are 100GB (they archive a ton of crap, but needs to be quickly accessible). Preferably zero storage limits. Hard drive space is of no object, I've got a raid 10 array of 1TB+ SATA drives. And a separate 3TB drive to hold the backups. Users share a single mailbox by department, so it's not unusual to have 5 users using a single mailbox simultaneously all day long, they use categories etc... to organize and distribute their work. e) Public folders (not really required except for the shared Master Contact List we use in outlook) f) Very efficient and speedy with large mailboxes (currently searches kills outlook for all users connected, appears frozen for minutes) g) I have a wildcard SSL certificate. h) Spam filtering (grey listing, white/black listing by server ip or email, dns blocklists, Bayesian filtering) i)Web admin tools to quickly do common tasks like creating mailboxes etc... j)I don't really care too much if it's connected to active directory ldap except for user authentication/passwords. What is it replacing? 1 exchange 2010 front end client access server (virtual machine) 1 exchange 2010 mailbox server (a real server, massive. This is where I want to put Ubuntu when I'm done and delete the other vm) GFI Mail Essentials (spam filtering, very good but buggy) Unfortunately, when I went to log into: http://ubuntu1:2 I get: An unhandled error occurred. Here's what I did so far on my test box: a) Clean Installed Ubuntu 12.04 x64, only chose Bind DNS and OpenSSH b) Installed webmin and dependencies, along with the sogo module c) Installed MySQL (instructions for postgresql commands are too weird or wrong), devcot, postfix, samba4 d) Created an sql database called sogo, updated all the stuff to be utf8 in the configs e) Added the sogo repository to apt f) Installed sogo, sogo-openchange, openchangeserver g) Configured General Preferences, Users Sources, Database, SMTP server, IMAP server in sogo's webmin module and pressed 'test' they all worked. Added my username to the Super Usernames. h) Set the server url and name in the sogo conf for apache. So far I see apache2 won't start up right. Does anyone have a working config? I'm not sure where I went wrong, but the instructions leave a lot to be desired... as far as Ubuntu goes anyways. I wish they would just make a script to do all the initial defaults and install the required packages for you. I never get why people will make a fancy install document when they could have just coded it so we could be up in 5 mins. Webmin comes to mind. Any help would be appreciated. -Kanaida -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] IMAP Server
Hello, yes, I can confirm. Everything works fine with Dovecot. Am Freitag, 25. Januar 2013 09:06 CET, Philippe CUIF philippe.c...@vetoquinol.com schrieb: Hi, running Cyrus here. No problems. Quite sure Dovecot users will have the same feedback ;) Le 25/01/2013 08:39, Valentin Bud a crit: Which server of this two integrates better with SOGo? I have had a pleasant experience in the past with CyrusIMAP and I would choose that but I would appreciate opinions on this matter.
[SOGo] Lightning Not Fetching All Calendars
Greetings. I have a Thunderbird 3.1 installation here and a user with about a dozen shared calendars. For some reason, when I installed the SOGo connector et al. and configured her user account, I'm not able to get all of her calendars fetched. I have deleted the sqlite cache file several times, and when I restart TB, I can see the file growing in size, but it never seems to get to the full size of the other sqlite cache (on TB2; this is a new computer for this user). And it will generally end up a different size each time I delete it and reload it, for example after one delete and reload it's 174 KB, after another one it's 268, etc. Any troubleshooting tips? I don't seem to be getting any errors in either the sogo log on the server, or the thunderbird error console. -- --asai -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
