Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-13 Thread Marcel Waldvogel
MJ, all,

if it bothers you, I suggest two options:

1. Pay inverse to implement the fix (you will make them happy, yourself happy, 
and everyone else happy)
2. Look for a postfix_header_checks (or similar) rule that sends a mail back to 
winmail.dat authors, pointing them to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/138053/ . 
If you share this with the mail providers around the world, you will help 
making the world a better place to live.

:-)

-Marcel

Am 12.07.2013 um 14:15 schrieb mourik jan heupink heup...@gmail.com:
 Hi Raymond,
 
 On 07/12/2013 03:02 PM, raymondpotgie...@telkomsa.net wrote:
 
 Hi MJ hope you are well. By what you are saying are you running both 
 Roundcube and Sogo in your environment?
 
 Yes we are. :-) Some users prefer the sogo interface, and others prefer 
 roundcube. In fact, we even offer (for historical reasons) squirrelmail :-)
 
 Of course, calandering etc are only available in SOGo, the others are just 
 email.
 
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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-13 Thread Szládovics Péter

2013-07-13 09:56 keltezéssel, Marcel Waldvogel írta:

MJ, all,

if it bothers you, I suggest two options:

1. Pay inverse to implement the fix (you will make them happy, yourself happy, 
and everyone else happy)
2. Look for a postfix_header_checks (or similar) rule that sends a mail back to 
winmail.dat authors, pointing them to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/138053/ . 
If you share this with the mail providers around the world, you will help 
making the world a better place to live.


Step 2 would be nice, but...
The exchange creates automatically winmail.dat, when you use 
outlook+s/mime digital signature+attach anything. So, not only when you 
use RTF format...

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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread mourik jan heupink

Hi Silver,

It's not possible as far as I know: It's one of the most annoying 
shortcomings of SOGo at the moment. As I said in the bugreport: 
roundcube works, so at least we can tell our staff to use roundcube to 
open these mails.


MJ



On 07/11/2013 10:24 AM, Silver Salonen wrote:

Hi.

Is it somehow possible to see contents of winmail.dat files from the webmail?

There is bug report 
http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=2242 for that, but 
it's pending?

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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread Mail Robot
tnef winmail.dat

On Friday, July 12, 2013, mourik jan heupink wrote:

 Hi Silver,

 It's not possible as far as I know: It's one of the most annoying
 shortcomings of SOGo at the moment. As I said in the bugreport: roundcube
 works, so at least we can tell our staff to use roundcube to open these
 mails.

 MJ



 On 07/11/2013 10:24 AM, Silver Salonen wrote:

 Hi.

 Is it somehow possible to see contents of winmail.dat files from the
 webmail?

 There is bug report http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/bug_**
 view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=**2242http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=2242for
  that, but it's pending?

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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread mourik jan heupink

Hi,

On 07/12/2013 02:53 PM, Mail Robot wrote:

tnef winmail.dat

Ok, first of all I didn't know that, so thanks. However this doesn't 
help our webaccess users...


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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread raymondpotgieter

Hi MJ hope you are well. By what you are saying are you running both Roundcube 
and Sogo in your environment? 

  

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-Original Message-
From: mourik jan heupink heup...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:44:08 
To: users@sogo.nu
Reply-To: users@sogo.nu
Subject: Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

Hi Silver,

It's not possible as far as I know: It's one of the most annoying 
shortcomings of SOGo at the moment. As I said in the bugreport: 
roundcube works, so at least we can tell our staff to use roundcube to 
open these mails.

MJ



On 07/11/2013 10:24 AM, Silver Salonen wrote:
 Hi.

 Is it somehow possible to see contents of winmail.dat files from the webmail?

 There is bug report 
 http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=2242 for that, but 
 it's pending?

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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread Mail Robot
http://www.postfixvirtual.net/postfixantivirus.html

On Friday, July 12, 2013, mourik jan heupink wrote:

 Hi,

 On 07/12/2013 02:53 PM, Mail Robot wrote:

 tnef winmail.dat

  Ok, first of all I didn't know that, so thanks. However this doesn't
 help our webaccess users...

 MJ
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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread Odhiambo Washington
I believe it's doable. I am running SOGo and groupoffice in the same
environment and a user can use whichever they want. Database is shared.
SOGo is using a VIEW of the database that I use for groupoffice.


On 12 July 2013 16:02, raymondpotgie...@telkomsa.net wrote:


 Hi MJ hope you are well. By what you are saying are you running both
 Roundcube and Sogo in your environment?



 Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!

 -Original Message-
 From: mourik jan heupink heup...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:44:08
 To: users@sogo.nu
 Reply-To: users@sogo.nu
 Subject: Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

 Hi Silver,

 It's not possible as far as I know: It's one of the most annoying
 shortcomings of SOGo at the moment. As I said in the bugreport:
 roundcube works, so at least we can tell our staff to use roundcube to
 open these mails.

 MJ



 On 07/11/2013 10:24 AM, Silver Salonen wrote:
  Hi.
 
  Is it somehow possible to see contents of winmail.dat files from the
 webmail?
 
  There is bug report
 http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=2242 for that,
 but it's pending?
 
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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 2013-07-12 8:59 AM, mourik jan heupink wrote:
Ok, first of all I didn't know that, so thanks. However this doesn't 
help our webaccess users... 
The best approach would be for us to integrate a TNEF decoding library 
(there are many out there) and do a mail part viewer in SOGo for this. 
It would correctly decode the mime part and present it to the user (RTF 
doc + attachments).


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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread mourik jan heupink

Hi Raymond,

On 07/12/2013 03:02 PM, raymondpotgie...@telkomsa.net wrote:


Hi MJ hope you are well. By what you are saying are you running both Roundcube 
and Sogo in your environment?


Yes we are. :-) Some users prefer the sogo interface, and others prefer 
roundcube. In fact, we even offer (for historical reasons) squirrelmail :-)


Of course, calandering etc are only available in SOGo, the others are 
just email.


MJ
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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread mourik jan heupink



On 07/12/2013 03:10 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:

The best approach would be for us to integrate a TNEF decoding library
(there are many out there) and do a mail part viewer in SOGo for this.
It would correctly decode the mime part and present it to the user (RTF
doc + attachments).


Yes, that is what I'm hopeing the bug report would result in... :-)
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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread raymondpotgieter

Ah okay, so this what sets Sogo apart from the rest... :-)




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-Original Message-
From: mourik jan heupink heup...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 15:15:54 
To: users@sogo.nu
Reply-To: users@sogo.nu
Subject: Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

Hi Raymond,

On 07/12/2013 03:02 PM, raymondpotgie...@telkomsa.net wrote:

 Hi MJ hope you are well. By what you are saying are you running both 
 Roundcube and Sogo in your environment?

Yes we are. :-) Some users prefer the sogo interface, and others prefer 
roundcube. In fact, we even offer (for historical reasons) squirrelmail :-)

Of course, calandering etc are only available in SOGo, the others are 
just email.

MJ
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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread mourik jan heupink



On 07/12/2013 03:19 PM, raymondpotgie...@telkomsa.net wrote:


Ah okay, so this what sets Sogo apart from the rest... :-)

well

As long as your email is accessible over imap (and I guess all modern 
groupware does imap?) you can install any imap capable webaccess... So 
this is not sogo-specific.


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Re: [SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-12 Thread Szládovics Péter

2013-07-12 14:59 keltezéssel, mourik jan heupink írta:

Hi,

On 07/12/2013 02:53 PM, Mail Robot wrote:

tnef winmail.dat

Ok, first of all I didn't know that, so thanks. However this doesn't 
help our webaccess users...


The webmail not the best choice in the most cases.
What about SMIME digital signatures? What about the encrypted mails? etc.

So, I think the webmail is only necessity, not the perfection. You need 
to use mail clients for handle these problems correctly.

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[SOGo] opening winmail.dat files

2013-07-11 Thread Silver Salonen
Hi.

Is it somehow possible to see contents of winmail.dat files from the webmail?

There is bug report 
http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=2242 for that, but 
it's pending?

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