config change for pyzor_path and dcc_path?

2006-05-18 Thread Andy Spiegl
After upgrading spamassassin 3.1.0a-2 - 3.1.1-1 (Debian Packages) I get the following lint errors: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, /usr/bin/pyzor is not valid for pyzor_path, skipping: pyzor_path /usr/bin/pyzor SpamAssassin failed to parse line, /usr/bin/dccproc is not valid for dcc_path,

RE: config change for pyzor_path and dcc_path?

2006-05-18 Thread Sietse van Zanen
Pyzor and DCC are separate tools, they are not included in SA. Do you have them installed? If not, disable the lines in your config. Or install them. DCC can be found at: http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/ Pyzor at: http://pyzor.sourceforge.net -Sietse

Re: config change for pyzor_path and dcc_path?

2006-05-18 Thread Andy Spiegl
Do you have them installed? Ups, you are right. They weren't installed on that machine. Thanks, Andy. -- Politics: Poli=Many, Tics=Blood sucking parasites

RE: config change for pyzor_path and dcc_path?

2006-05-18 Thread Sietse van Zanen
Thanks, Andy. -- Politics: Poli=Many, Tics=Blood sucking parasites .. That is a daring (but true) statement for somebody from Germ-many. :-p

RE: Re[2]: problem with using SARE rules, names longer than 22 chars

2006-05-18 Thread James E. Pratt
-Original Message- From: Robert Menschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:22 AM To: James E. Pratt Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re[2]: problem with using SARE rules, names longer than 22 chars Hello James, Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 6:09:51 AM,

A lot of these going around

2006-05-18 Thread David Baron
May 18 11:50:22 d_baron spamc[5797]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1 failed, retrying (#1 of 3): Connection refused Seems harmless though annoying. Fix?

Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
URI based black lists have been extremely effected in identifying spam. I propose another kind of black list. A list of email addresses embedded in the message body as replies to nigerian type spam and other spam where you are instructed to reply to the email address in the message body. One

RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
-Original Message- From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:24 AM To: SpamAssassin Users Subject: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists? URI based black lists have been extremely effected in identifying spam. I

Re: Filtering windows-1252 charset

2006-05-18 Thread Philip Prindeville
Jonathan Armitage wrote: I see some spam with windows-1252 or other unwanted character sets at the start of the subject. I reject them via an Exim ACL, so SA doesn't even have to scan them. Which brings up the subject... How legitimate is email sent as windows-1252? I see absolutely no

Re: Delete spam or move to a folder?

2006-05-18 Thread Steven Dickenson
Couldn't find a thread like this hence this new one. Just wondering what strategy people are using when it comes to dealing with email that gets enough points to be considered as spam. Eg. being deleted and quarantined, or delivered and quarantined etc. I'm using store and deliver - is

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
Dallas L. Engelken wrote: The only problem I have with it is that it would be very manual, and address rotation per msg would be very easy to defeat this. Dallas Even if they used a lot of email addresses in the body they would all have to be good addresses that got the response back to

Re: Delete spam or move to a folder?

2006-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
Steven Dickenson wrote: Couldn't find a thread like this hence this new one. Just wondering what strategy people are using when it comes to dealing with email that gets enough points to be considered as spam. Eg. being deleted and quarantined, or delivered and quarantined etc. I'm using

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread jdow
From: Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] URI based black lists have been extremely effected in identifying spam. I propose another kind of black list. A list of email addresses embedded in the message body as replies to nigerian type spam and other spam where you are instructed to reply to the

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread jdow
From: Dallas L. Engelken [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URI based black lists have been extremely effected in identifying spam. I propose another kind of black list. A list of email addresses embedded in the message body as replies

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists?

2006-05-18 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
problem I have with it is that it would be very manual, and address rotation per msg would be very easy to defeat this. I'm in favor of this because, despite what Dallas said, (1) Many who are really serious about quality filtering could get much use out of this before it even hits the

Why Different?

2006-05-18 Thread Benjamin Adams
My client messages at a different score then on the server On my client:X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.984 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=DIET_1, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, UPPERCASE_25_50On The server:spamassassin -t 4391.Content analysis details:   (14.6 points, 5.0 required)

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
jdow said: It'd be easier to simply click fraud the sites until the vendors who commission the spam catch on and turn off the money up front. I think you've misunderstood Marc's proposal. He is talking about identity theft schemes via Nigeria 419 scams where there is only an e-mail address in

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
jdow wrote: From: Dallas L. Engelken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dallas jdow Directly answering his question - it is not infrequent these days for the answer site to be part of a botnet, I understand. So a blacklist would have to be bigevil.cf in size and then some. It'd be easier to simply click

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists?

2006-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) wrote: problem I have with it is that it would be very manual, and address rotation per msg would be very easy to defeat this. I'm in favor of this because, despite what Dallas said, (1) Many who are really serious about

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) wrote: jdow said: It'd be easier to simply click fraud the sites until the vendors who commission the spam catch on and turn off the money up front. I think you've misunderstood Marc's proposal. He is talking about identity theft schemes

RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
-Original Message- From: Dallas L. Engelken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:34 AM To: SpamAssassin Users Subject: RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists? -Original Message- From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists?

2006-05-18 Thread qqqq
I agree this is a great idea. If Dallas and Chris don't desire to host the infrastructure for something like this, I can help out in terms of a Master or slave server.

RE: Filtering windows-1252 charset

2006-05-18 Thread Bret Miller
Which brings up the subject... How legitimate is email sent as windows-1252? I see absolutely no reason to send it, since it offers no advantage over iso-8859-1 or utf-8, and the RFC's are pretty clear about using the smallest encoding that will fit a message, i.e. usascii = iso-8859-1 =

Re: Filtering windows-1252 charset

2006-05-18 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip Prindeville wrote: Jonathan Armitage wrote: I see some spam with windows-1252 or other unwanted character sets at the start of the subject. I reject them via an Exim ACL, so SA doesn't even have to scan them. Which brings up the

Re: Why Different?

2006-05-18 Thread Ninja Dude
Benjamin Adams wrote: On my client: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.984 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=DIET_1, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, UPPERCASE_25_50 ... On The server: ... 3.5 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%

RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists? -Original Message- From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:09 AM To: jdow Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how

LOCAL_RCVD

2006-05-18 Thread Shelley Waltz
Spamassassin 2.63-1/amavisd-new-20030616-p8 I am trying to configure spamassassin such that any email originating from my domain is not spam tagged. I have tried in local.cf both these syntaxes. header LOCAL_RCVD Received =~ /.*\(\S+\.myhost\.mydom\.edu\s+\[.*\]\)/ header LOCAL_RCVD Received

Re: LOCAL_RCVD

2006-05-18 Thread Justin Mason
Shelley Waltz writes: Spamassassin 2.63-1/amavisd-new-20030616-p8 I am trying to configure spamassassin such that any email originating from my domain is not spam tagged. I have tried in local.cf both these syntaxes. header LOCAL_RCVD Received =~

SA 3.1.0, postfix and amavis-new questions

2006-05-18 Thread Gene Hendrickson
I have SA 3.1.0 with postfix and amavis-new. When I look in the logs i see both SA and amavis scanning email for spam. They get wildly different scores. Are they both supposed to be scanning? Also, is there any way I can have SA scores written to the header instead of amavis? Thanks. Gene

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
Title: RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists? Chris Santerre wrote: We have a hard enough time with tons of new domains in URIBL. Those cost money and IMHO a bit more steps to go thru to setup then an email address. I can't imagine trying to

Re: A lot of these going around

2006-05-18 Thread Matt Kettler
David Baron wrote: May 18 11:50:22 d_baron spamc[5797]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1 failed, retrying (#1 of 3): Connection refused Seems harmless though annoying. Fix? Is spamd running?

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists?

2006-05-18 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
It could actually be a benefit if/when the e-mail address account was terminated because this could keep the overall size of the list smaller. I wonder if there is some automated way to check this getting in trouble for spamming or abusing the free hosting service? Rob McEwen PowerView Systems

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread qqqq
RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?Remember we're not talking about the From address but the address within the message that they want you to reply to. That address isn't going to expire very fast because that's how the spammer gets the money. I would say

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread qqqq
RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?Remember we're not talking about the From address but the address within the message that they want you to reply to. That address isn't going to expire very fast because that's how the spammer gets the money. I would say

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists?

2006-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) wrote: It could actually be a benefit if/when the e-mail address account was terminated because this could keep the overall size of the list smaller. I wonder if there is some automated way to check this getting in trouble for spamming or abusing the free

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists?

2006-05-18 Thread Matt Kettler
Marc Perkel wrote: I'm just going to throw this out there having not thought this through but if the spammer moves on to a different account then compaints against that email address will cease. I say that if and email address hasn't receives a complaint in a few days then you can purge it.

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists?

2006-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
Matt Kettler wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I'm just going to throw this out there having not thought this through but if the spammer moves on to a different account then compaints against that email address will cease. I say that if and email address hasn't receives a complaint in

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists?

2006-05-18 Thread Matt Kettler
Marc Perkel wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: I'm just going to throw this out there having not thought this through but if the spammer moves on to a different account then compaints against that email address will cease. I say that if and email address hasn't receives a

Re: A lot of these going around

2006-05-18 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 18 May 2006 20:40, Matt Kettler wrote: David Baron wrote: May 18 11:50:22 d_baron spamc[5797]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1 failed, retrying (#1 of 3): Connection refused Seems harmless though annoying. Fix? Is spamd running? Of course.

RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists? -Original Message- From: Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:48 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposal: First URI black list,

Re: A lot of these going around

2006-05-18 Thread Matt Kettler
David Baron wrote: On Thursday 18 May 2006 20:40, Matt Kettler wrote: David Baron wrote: May 18 11:50:22 d_baron spamc[5797]: connect(AF_INET) to spamd at 127.0.0.1 failed, retrying (#1 of 3): Connection refused Seems harmless though annoying. Fix? Is spamd running? Of course. Is

RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists?

2006-05-18 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
And when the spammers use a joe jobbed email address, what will you do? How will you know if it really is a drop box, or someones real email address being Joe Jobbed to mess up your list? Believe me, the spammer will feed false info to give your list a bad name. Chris, that is a really good

Re: Filtering windows-1252 charset

2006-05-18 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Philip Prindeville wrote on Thu, 18 May 2006 08:47:48 -0600: How legitimate is email sent as windows-1252? Very, because broken Windows clients use it. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: Minimizing spamd's memory footprint

2006-05-18 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 01:31 Kai Schaetzl wrote: That list would most definetly ... get your cat pregnant! Hm, quite powerful medicine then, hm? ;-) Probably he shouldn't filter those DRUGS spam then and buy some of these. I'm sure some sell anti baby pills for cats. *g* mfg zmi -- //

Re: Delete spam or move to a folder?

2006-05-18 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Will Nordmeyer wrote: Craig, How do you have procmail set up to deliver to the spam vs. likely spam folders? Use the X-Spam-Level marker. Anything with 10 stars and a X-Spam-Status of Yes gets put in a 'likely-spam' folder. Anything else goes

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dallas L. Engelken wrote: Well, the only thread on sa-users I found about this was from Dec 2005. http://www.nabble.com/A-thought-about-phone-numbers-and-URIBLs-t716464.h tml We had a thread on uribl staff list about this last July which we

Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?

2006-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
I believe that using email addresses that are embedded in 419 type spams as a spam fingerprint will be as effective against 419 typre spam as URIBL is for identifying spam that has links in it. All spam has one thing in common. Spam wants you to DO something. And what it wants you to do is

URL-encoded hostnames in email links

2006-05-18 Thread John D. Hardin
Re: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1342 (1) Are there any rules currently in SA or SARE that will trigger on encoded characters in the hostname part of a URL? (2) Does the URL extractor for SURBL checks properly deal with URL-encoded hostnames? -- John Hardin KA7OHZICQ#15735746

list of rules

2006-05-18 Thread Paul Matthews
Hi there, I've just installed spam assassin and it's working okay, but some spam is still getting in, I only have like 3 rules at the moment that I added in, is there a list of pretty safe rules out there that I could just copy into my local.cf SA file?

Re: list of rules

2006-05-18 Thread Matt Kettler
Paul Matthews wrote: Hi there, I've just installed spam assassin and it's working okay, but some spam is still getting in, I only have like 3 rules at the moment that I added in, Care to specify which ones? is there a list of pretty safe rules out there that I could just copy into my

Re: URL-encoded hostnames in email links

2006-05-18 Thread Matt Kettler
John D. Hardin wrote: Re: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1342 (1) Are there any rules currently in SA or SARE that will trigger on encoded characters in the hostname part of a URL? (2) Does the URL extractor for SURBL checks properly deal with URL-encoded hostnames? Yes, SA in

Re: REMOVE and Don't Send These Emails

2006-05-18 Thread Matt Kettler
Please cease and desist sending me automated backscatter in response to postings regarding spamassassin-talk list. Either unsubscribe yourself from the list, or stop generating backscatter. Further backscatter will be reported to spamcop as such. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are emailing

[OT] Re: REMOVE and Don't Send These Emails

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Macdougall
Matt Kettler wrote: Please cease and desist sending me automated backscatter in response to postings regarding spamassassin-talk list. Either unsubscribe yourself from the list, or stop generating backscatter. Further backscatter will be reported to spamcop as such. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Re: REMOVE and Don't Send These Emails

2006-05-18 Thread Evan Platt
On Thu, May 18, 2006 4:25 pm, Rick Macdougall wrote: Our LDS Family ? Strange. LDS = Latter Day Saints (Mormons).

Re: [OT] Re: REMOVE and Don't Send These Emails

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Macdougall
Evan Platt wrote: On Thu, May 18, 2006 4:25 pm, Rick Macdougall wrote: Our LDS Family ? Strange. LDS = Latter Day Saints (Mormons). Ja, I know what is is, I just found the url strange. *Shrug* but what do I know.

Re: Re: [OT] Re: REMOVE and Don't Send These Emails

2006-05-18 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Probably need a couple of extra wives to explain it to you ;-D On Thu, 18 May 2006 19:30:56 -0400, Rick Macdougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evan Platt wrote: On Thu, May 18, 2006 4:25 pm, Rick Macdougall wrote: Our LDS Family ? Strange. LDS = Latter Day Saints (Mormons). Ja, I know

Re: list of rules

2006-05-18 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 06:52:23PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: is there a list of pretty safe rules out there that I could just copy into my local.cf SA file? Are you using sa-update? I also make use of a modified version of the rules for uribl.com's add-on uribl: Is there a reason to not

Re: list of rules

2006-05-18 Thread Paul Matthews
Are you using sa-update? i'm not sure, how do i know if i am, but i did a locate sa-update and i came up with nothing so i have to guess that i'm not. Although, i've found the website http://www.sa-blacklist.stearns.org/sa-blacklist/ and i've add the following information into a script and

Re: list of rules

2006-05-18 Thread Matt Kettler
Paul Matthews wrote: Are you using sa-update? i'm not sure, how do i know if i am, but i did a locate sa-update and i came up with nothing so i have to guess that i'm not. What version of SA are you using? If older than 3.1.1, consider upgrading to the current version before adding

Re: list of rules

2006-05-18 Thread Paul Matthews
What version of SA are you using? If older than 3.1.1, consider upgrading to the current version before adding on extra rulesets. i'm running RHEL4 with spamassassin-3.0.5-3.el4 I don't want to upgrade because I manage all my packages with redhat's up2date program and a new version of SA

Re[2]: Negative lookaround?

2006-05-18 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Matt, Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 4:04:39 PM, you wrote: MK Some of the shorter results are: MK body SARE_OBFU_BACK_NUM m'(?!BACK)\bb\d?a\d?c\d?k\b'i MK body SARE_OBFU_SAVE_NUM m'(?!save)\bs\d?a\d?v\d?e\b'i MK body SARE_OBFU_SAVINGS_NUM

Re: URL-encoded hostnames in email links

2006-05-18 Thread John D. Hardin
On Thu, 18 May 2006, Matt Kettler wrote: John D. Hardin wrote: Re: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1342 (1) Are there any rules currently in SA or SARE that will trigger on encoded characters in the hostname part of a URL? (2) Does the URL extractor for SURBL checks properly

Re: list of rules

2006-05-18 Thread Matt Kettler
Paul Matthews wrote: What version of SA are you using? If older than 3.1.1, consider upgrading to the current version before adding on extra rulesets. i'm running RHEL4 with spamassassin-3.0.5-3.el4 I don't want to upgrade because I manage all my packages with redhat's up2date program