Re: are the NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP scores still valid?

2008-01-16 Thread Matt Kettler
Jason Haar wrote: Hi there I just got a one-line piece of spam with a ipaddress-based URL. Probably pointing at some auto infect your Windows PC app. Anyway, it got a score of 0.1 out of 5 when it came in. 4 hours later it had showed up in several RBLs and the score was pushed up to 4.9.

Re: What MTAs to spammers (not) use?

2008-01-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-10 08:34:37, schrieb Marc Perkel: Just a thought. I'm wondering if there are any clues the th received lines that indicate the MTA that might be used for spam detection, or rather ham detection. Do spammers ever use Exim, Qmail, Postfix? - END OF REPLIED

Re: What MTAs to spammers (not) use?

2008-01-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Am 2008-01-10 08:34:37, schrieb Marc Perkel: Just a thought. I'm wondering if there are any clues the th received lines that indicate the MTA that might be used for spam detection, or rather ham detection. Do spammers ever use Exim, Qmail, Postfix? On 12.01.08 13:28, Michelle Konzack

Re: are the NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP scores still valid?

2008-01-16 Thread Chip M.
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Matt Kettler wrote: Yes. In fact, IP based URLs occur more commonly in nonspam than spam. Matt, yes this is correct, however in this particular case nonspam is perhaps a bit broad. It's been my experience that these almost always occur in mass marketing ham, not

Re: Googlepages Livefilestore spams

2008-01-16 Thread Chip M.
The latest variant is gooogle.com, which is a legit alias for Google, and appears to work with all the regular spammer trick parameters. I've also seen two more google TLD variants. - Chip

A rule to match patterns on recipient name.

2008-01-16 Thread Steve
I'm looking for suggestions as to the best way to do this. I've a catch-all mail strategy for a domain, and a number of users have accounts - say - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. When engaging with a new contact, or mailing list, a new email address is generated. For example:

RE: A rule to match patterns on recipient name.

2008-01-16 Thread Bowie Bailey
Steve wrote: I'm looking for suggestions as to the best way to do this. I've a catch-all mail strategy for a domain, and a number of users have accounts - say - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. When engaging with a new contact, or mailing list, a new email address is generated.

Re: are the NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP scores still valid?

2008-01-16 Thread Jason Haar
Matt Kettler wrote: Yes. In fact, IP based URLs occur more commonly in nonspam than spam. STATISTICS-set0.txt:OVERALLSPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME STATISTICS-set0.txt: 0.395 0.3920 0.40010.495 0.420.10 NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP Note the S/O of 0.42 means that 42%

RE: Googlepages Livefilestore spams

2008-01-16 Thread Mike Cisar
The latest variant is gooogle.com, which is a legit alias for Google, and appears to work with all the regular spammer trick parameters. I've also seen two more google TLD variants. And another variation this morning with 4 slashes instead of 2 between the domain and 'search' Cheers, Mike

Re: What MTAs to spammers (not) use?

2008-01-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-16 14:47:33, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: why do you (not) use SpamAssassin at all? Because it eat too much memory and procmail is arround 100 times faster? And since I have to call fetchmail too, spamassassin is integrated in the procmailrc Thanks, Greetings and nice Day

Re: A rule to match patterns on recipient name.

2008-01-16 Thread Steve
Bowie Bailey wrote: Catch-all setups always have this problem. You could use SA to figure out which addresses are likely to be valid, but this means that you have to accept the message and then call SA for EVERY one of these emails. I'm aware of that... but the benefits outweigh the

Re: What MTAs to spammers (not) use?

2008-01-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Am 2008-01-16 14:47:33, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: why do you (not) use SpamAssassin at all? On 16.01.08 20:08, Michelle Konzack wrote: Because it eat too much memory and procmail is arround 100 times faster? so why are you asking procmail question in SA list? :) Well, many MTA's are

Training Q

2008-01-16 Thread mackenna
Hi SA experts, We have procmail filters that see emails before SA. They can: 1. whitelist emails direct to our Inbox, 2. send emails to direct to the bit bucket (/dev/null) 3. send emails to the Junk folder for review, or 4. leave them for processing by SA. So SA never sees the emails in

Re: What MTAs to spammers (not) use?

2008-01-16 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-16 20:16:34, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: so why are you asking procmail question in SA list? :) [X] I have not read the thread and jumped only in. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/

Re: Training Q

2008-01-16 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, all 3 categories include emails that SA has already seen and presumably included in its Bayesian filters, Only if you have autolearn enabled. Can we assume that you do from this question? You didn't explicitly say. and emails that it has

Re: A rule to match patterns on recipient name.

2008-01-16 Thread Loren Wilton
Valid email addresses have a well-known structure (i.e. [A-z.]*_NAME) so, for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] is clearly a bogus address. Off the top of my head you might be able to do something like (untested): header__GOOD_NAMETo=~ /[A-Za-z]{1,30}_[A-Za-z\d\.]{2,40}\@(?i:domain\.com)/

Re: are the NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP scores still valid?

2008-01-16 Thread James Wilkinson
Matt Kettler wrote: Yes. In fact, IP based URLs occur more commonly in nonspam than spam. Chip M. wrote: Matt, yes this is correct, however in this particular case nonspam is perhaps a bit broad. It's been my experience that these almost always occur in mass marketing ham, not

Re: are the NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP scores still valid?

2008-01-16 Thread Loren Wilton
In my (limited) experience, nonspam IP-based URLs almost always have paths after the IP address, whereas a *lot* of spam just points to the IP address. Does this match anyone else's experience? I've never run a masscheck to see, it would be interesting. Trying to think about what I've seen

Re: spamassassin eating lot of RAM

2008-01-16 Thread Jai Gupta
Thanks guys, Problem solved now, It was a program called watchdog in Plesk which was the problem. Somehow it is not detecting the status of process and is starting the process again and again. Jai On Jan 14, 2008 11:38 PM, Mike Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My server has 8GB of ram,