Re: Bogus day old domains from RRPPROXY.NET

2015-03-13 Thread Axb
On 03/13/2015 07:54 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, David B Funk wrote: Except that the rrpproxy.net people have figured out a way to cirumvent this. They now register spammer domains and don't list -any- NS records in the zone. Is *that* a useful spam sign? Remember, SA is not

Spamassassin fails to start

2015-03-13 Thread John Williams
I'm running spam assassin on Fedora 21. It installed fine and was working. Then I wanted to start creating procmail rules to move spam labeled email to different folders and SA broke. I removed all the procmail configuration but SA is still broke. When I start it on the command line I get

Re: Bogus day old domains from RRPPROXY.NET

2015-03-13 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, Axb wrote: On 03/13/2015 07:54 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, David B Funk wrote: Except that the rrpproxy.net people have figured out a way to cirumvent this. They now register spammer domains and don't list -any- NS records in the zone. Is *that* a

Re: Bogus day old domains from RRPPROXY.NET

2015-03-13 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, David B Funk wrote: Except that the rrpproxy.net people have figured out a way to cirumvent this. They now register spammer domains and don't list -any- NS records in the zone. Is *that* a useful spam sign? Remember, SA is not an RFC compliance validation tool. If a few

Re: Bogus day old domains from RRPPROXY.NET

2015-03-13 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, Axb wrote: I don't quite understand your logic/language but yes, that's the point of such a list. You list the NS and all domains on that NS get scored. for example see: URIBL's Extra Datasets via Datafeed Service http://uribl.com/datasets.shtml black_ns.txt - This file

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 16:41:33 -0500 (CDT) Shane Williams sha...@shanew.net wrote: What are your favorite (not spamass-milter) options for plugging spamassassin into a milter? MIMEDefang because it gives you a whole filtering framework in Perl in addition to integrating with SpamAssassin.

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
spamass-milter I don't have enough hours in the day to troubleshoot some effing stupid incompatibility between the latest version of SA and the latest version of BrandX milter that crops up when SA is updated, nor to listen to the complaining while the milter is offline while I'm fixing it.

Re: Bogus day old domains from RRPPROXY.NET

2015-03-13 Thread lconrad
On Friday 13/03/2015 at 2:17 pm, David B Funk wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, Axb wrote: On 03/13/2015 07:54 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, David B Funk wrote: Except that the rrpproxy.net people have figured out a way to cirumvent this. They now register spammer domains and

Re: Bogus day old domains from RRPPROXY.NET

2015-03-13 Thread Dave Pooser
On 3/13/15, 2:47 PM, Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@pccc.com wrote: On 3/13/2015 3:16 PM, David B Funk wrote: Your 'been there - got bitten', is that a reference to the temptation or the actual case of no NS records? Axb's sister was once bitten by a M00se. She was Karving her initials on the m00se

Re: Bogus day old domains from RRPPROXY.NET

2015-03-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On March 13, 2015 7:36:21 PM David B Funk dbf...@engineering.uiowa.edu wrote: # dig -t ns hardinskinrestore.com. dig +trace example.com spam domains just need ns for there own subdomains, if its dns delegated, back to basic if comal is so hard :)

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 3/13/2015 5:41 PM, Shane Williams wrote: What are your favorite (not spamass-milter) options for plugging spamassassin into a milter? Trying to start a holy-war on the list? ;-) +1 for MIMEDefang. Regards, KAM

RE: whitelist_from in user_prefs is not being processed.

2015-03-13 Thread Rick Hantz (TirNanOg)
That worked, many thanks.. Missing @ makes a difference ;) -RIckH -Original Message- From: RW [mailto:rwmailli...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:44 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: whitelist_from in user_prefs is not being processed. On Thu, 12 Mar

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Shane Williams sha...@shanew.net: What are your favorite (not spamass-milter) options for plugging spamassassin into a milter? amavisd-new via amavisd-milter. amavis because it allows to define actions for spam that go beyond 'HOLD' or reject. And, if you want to do more than spam

Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Shane Williams
I've been reviewing the current landscape of anti-spam tools since I haven't set up a new system in a while, and one place I'm wondering what people are using is milters for spamassassin/spamc. It seems like spamass-milter is the default go-to for most people, but I'd really like one that can

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
Kevin A. McGrail skrev den 2015-03-13 22:50: On 3/13/2015 5:41 PM, Shane Williams wrote: What are your favorite (not spamass-milter) options for plugging spamassassin into a milter? Trying to start a holy-war on the list? ;-) spampd +1 for MIMEDefang. you are insane ? :=) Hide: fuglu

Re: Bogus day old domains from RRPPROXY.NET

2015-03-13 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 3/13/2015 3:16 PM, David B Funk wrote: Your 'been there - got bitten', is that a reference to the temptation or the actual case of no NS records? Axb's sister was once bitten by a M00se.

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, @lbutlr wrote: On 13 Mar 2015, at 17:54 , Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: Currently I'm using spamass-milter, which seems to have been teetering on the edge of unmaintained, although the 0.4.0 release on 2014-09-11 staved that off for a while. Note that the previous

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread @lbutlr
On 13 Mar 2015, at 17:54 , Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: Currently I'm using spamass-milter, which seems to have been teetering on the edge of unmaintained, although the 0.4.0 release on 2014-09-11 staved that off for a while. Note that the previous release was 2006-04-05 I’m not sure

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Axb
On 03/13/2015 10:41 PM, Shane Williams wrote: I've been reviewing the current landscape of anti-spam tools since I haven't set up a new system in a while, and one place I'm wondering what people are using is milters for spamassassin/spamc. It seems like spamass-milter is the default go-to for

Re: Spamassassin fails to start

2015-03-13 Thread John Williams
That was it!! Thanks so much!! - Original Message - From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Cc: John Williams john.1...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Spamassassin fails to start On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:19:37 + (UTC) John

Re: whitelist filter not matching

2015-03-13 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, Rick Hantz (TirNanOg) wrote: For some reason, whitelist_from *@*.usps.gov whitelist_from *@*.usps.com doesn't work on the header below. Anyone spot something that I missed? From: us_postal_serv...@usps.com There's no subdomain there. You may need two entries:

whitelist filter not matching

2015-03-13 Thread Rick Hantz (TirNanOg)
For some reason, whitelist_from *@*.usps.gov whitelist_from *@*.usps.com doesn't work on the header below. Anyone spot something that I missed? Received: from mailcentral12.srvs.usps.gov ([56.0.143.18]:47963 helo=gk-c18-email.usps.gov) by coeus.lunarmania.com with esmtps

Re: Spamassassin fails to start

2015-03-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:19:37 + (UTC) John Williams john.1...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm running spam assassin on Fedora 21. It installed fine and was working. Then I wanted to start creating procmail rules to move spam labeled email to different folders and SA broke. I removed all the

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
Ted Mittelstaedt skrev den 2015-03-13 23:33: Must be something in the water! Or maybe it's just Friday... and 13

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread shanew
Well, you don't have to try very hard to start a holy war around here ;-) Seriously, though, I wasn't thinking at the level of amavisd, mimedefang, or mailscanner. Those may come later, but the situation I'm in right this moment is that I'm taking over a very idiosyncratic mail environment, and

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Axb
On 03/13/2015 11:35 PM, sha...@shanew.net wrote: Well, you don't have to try very hard to start a holy war around here ;-) Seriously, though, I wasn't thinking at the level of amavisd, mimedefang, or mailscanner. Those may come later, but the situation I'm in right this moment is that I'm

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:35:34 -0500 (CDT) sha...@shanew.net wrote: All this, of course, after searching high and low for a milter, proxy, or some other contraption that would allow me to clone a mail stream to a totally separate server without disrupting the original stream (like port spanning

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Greg Troxel
Shane Williams sha...@shanew.net writes: It seems like spamass-milter is the default go-to for most people, but I'd really like one that can listen on an INET socket (and spamass-milter doesn't as far as I can tell, but please correct me if I'm wrong). Milter-spamc from SnertSoft looks

Re: whitelist filter not matching

2015-03-13 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, Rick Hantz (TirNanOg) wrote: For some reason, whitelist_from *@*.usps.gov whitelist_from *@*.usps.com doesn't work on the header below. Anyone spot something that I missed? Received: from mailcentral12.srvs.usps.gov ([56.0.143.18]:47963 helo=gk-c18-email.usps.gov)

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
want to avoid the usual distro based dependency parties Yeah, right! Now your the one looking to start a holy-war... Must be something in the water! Or maybe it's just Friday... Ted On 3/13/2015 3:19 PM, Axb wrote: On 03/13/2015 10:41 PM, Shane Williams wrote: I've been reviewing the

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
All this, of course, after searching high and low for a milter, proxy, or some other contraption that would allow me to clone a mail stream to a totally separate server without disrupting the original stream (like port spanning or a network tap, but for SMTP), Need a better Search Engine,

Re: whitelist filter not matching

2015-03-13 Thread Axb
On 03/14/2015 12:14 AM, Rick Hantz (TirNanOg) wrote: From:us_postal_serv...@usps.com whitelist_from *@usps.com or safer (prevent forged senders) whitelist_from_rcvd *@usps.com usps.gov watch your syntax...

Re: Which milter do you prefer?

2015-03-13 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015, Shane Williams wrote: I've been reviewing the current landscape of anti-spam tools since I haven't set up a new system in a while, and one place I'm wondering what people are using is milters for spamassassin/spamc. It seems like spamass-milter is the default go-to for

Re: spamass filter blocked yahoo, but why?

2015-03-13 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 12-03-15 21:55, @lbutlr wrote: Can you show us the actual message that you received (headers and all)? Post it to pastebin and give us the link. Since the message was rejected, no, I do not have the actual message. I am relying, at this point, on my bother having given me correct

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 13.03.15 14:54, Filip Havlíček wrote: there is my configuration: /etc/spamassassin/local.cf: http://pastebin.com/PM5jN8wi /etc/postfix/main.cf:

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-13 Thread Filip Havlíček
Hi, there is my configuration: /etc/spamassassin/local.cf: http://pastebin.com/PM5jN8wi /etc/postfix/main.cf: http://pastebin.com/KWN7Ebyi /etc/amavis/conf.d/50-user: http://pastebin.com/ijSaqhuJ So, what I should modify? Thanks Dne 4.3.2015 v 20:39 Reindl Harald napsal(a): Am 04.03.2015 um