* Tony Finch wrote (05/11/06 17:43):
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote:
So? Build something better. Its open source. Don't use the RFCI scores,
drop them, stop bithing about somehting YOU can change.
Well, I've added a -2 for email from Amazon, but I thought other people
might
On Sun, November 5, 2006 18:43, Tony Finch wrote:
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote:
So? Build something better. Its open source. Don't use the RFCI scores,
drop them, stop bithing about somehting YOU can change.
Well, I've added a -2 for email from Amazon, but I thought other
* Benny Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
correct. if 100 happy amazon.com users complain to amazon.com about there
listing in rfci, what will happend then ?
Dunno. I wrote about this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and never got a
reply.
does amazon.com know there faults ?
Yes, they fixed the issue.
On Mon, November 6, 2006 12:46, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
Dunno. I wrote about this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and never got a
reply.
maybe it sent to /dev/null in there end :(
i send mail to postmaster when i find a domain that does not handle things
right, newer got a usefull reply from
From: Chris Lear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Tony Finch wrote (05/11/06 17:43):
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote:
So? Build something better. Its open source. Don't use the RFCI scores,
drop them, stop bithing about somehting YOU can change.
Well, I've added a -2 for email from Amazon,
jdow writes:
From: Chris Lear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Tony Finch wrote (05/11/06 17:43):
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote:
So? Build something better. Its open source. Don't use the RFCI scores,
drop them, stop bithing about somehting YOU can change.
Well, I've added a -2
jdow wrote:
From: Chris Lear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Tony Finch wrote (05/11/06 17:43):
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote:
So? Build something better. Its open source. Don't use the RFCI scores,
drop them, stop bithing about somehting YOU can change.
Well, I've added a -2 for email
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote:
So? Build something better. Its open source. Don't use the RFCI scores,
drop them, stop bithing about somehting YOU can change.
Well, I've added a -2 for email from Amazon, but I thought other people
might like a warning. No need to flame someone
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, Tony Finch wrote:
Well, I've added a -2 for email from Amazon, but I thought other
people might like a warning. No need to flame someone who's trying
to help.
RFCi and SA is a somewhat sensitive topic here, as you'll see if you
check the archives from about a month back.
On Sat, November 4, 2006 02:34, Tony Finch wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote:
Not a false positive if their servers are broken.
True from the RFCI point of view, but NOT true from the SpamAssassin point
of view. These messages are wanted by their recipients so should not be
-Original Message-
From: Tony Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tony Finch
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:35 PM
To: Michael Scheidell
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Amazon / RFCI false positives
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote
* Michael Scheidell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
True from the RFCI point of view, but NOT true from the
SpamAssassin point of view. These messages are wanted by
their recipients so should not be scored as spam by SpamAssassin.
You don't understand.
Go buy a clue somewhere.
These issues cast
-Original Message-
From: Ralf Hildebrandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:19 AM
To: Tony Finch
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Amazon / RFCI false positives
* Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My mistake: I cited the wrong domain
* Michael Scheidell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Based on the original bounce in the rfci list, they have been broken for
over 5 days.
Yes.
For a whole, the mx records for amazon.com themselves were broke also.
I didn't notice that.
What about SARES image scores? Hey, I wanted that email from that
-Original Message-
From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: zaterdag 4 november 2006 13:52
To: Ralf Hildebrandt; Tony Finch
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Amazon / RFCI false positives
Based on Tony's logic, we should delist hotmail.com (someone
-Original Message-
From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 9:59 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Amazon / RFCI false positives
-Original Message-
From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: zaterdag 4
From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Based on Tony's logic, we should delist hotmail.com (someone
might want an email from hotmail), microsoft.com, yahoo.com, google.com,
. All of which are listed in RFCI. Heck, we should totally ignore
the
Amazon.co.uk was listed by RFC-Ignorant at the start of this week, and it
is now scoring more than 5: DNS_FROM_RFC_DSN 2.87, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST 1.44,
FROM_EXCESS_BASE64 1.05.
Tony.
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IRISH SEA: VARIABLE 3 OR LESS, BECOMING WESTERLY 4 OR 5 LATER.
* Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Amazon.co.uk was listed by RFC-Ignorant at the start of this week, and it
is now scoring more than 5: DNS_FROM_RFC_DSN 2.87, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST 1.44,
FROM_EXCESS_BASE64 1.05.
Amazon.co.uk is not listed:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
* Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Amazon.co.uk was listed by RFC-Ignorant at the start of this week, and it
is now scoring more than 5: DNS_FROM_RFC_DSN 2.87, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST 1.44,
FROM_EXCESS_BASE64 1.05.
Amazon.co.uk is not listed:
Seems pretty accurate to me since I have accounts that have been
returning 550: User Unknown smtp rejects for 2+ years that still receive
mail from Amazon on a weekly/monthly basis. Same thing for several airline
mileage programs, big name stock brokerages, etc.
On Friday 03 November 2006
-Original Message-
From: Tony Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tony Finch
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:59 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Amazon / RFCI false positives
Amazon.co.uk was listed by RFC-Ignorant at the start of this
week
-Original Message-
From: Michael Scheidell
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:32 PM
To: Tony Finch; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Amazon / RFCI false positives
-Original Message-
From: Tony Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony
Finch
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote:
Not a false positive if their servers are broken.
True from the RFCI point of view, but NOT true from the SpamAssassin point
of view. These messages are wanted by their recipients so should not be
scored as spam by SpamAssassin.
Tony.
--
From: Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Michael Scheidell wrote:
Not a false positive if their servers are broken.
True from the RFCI point of view, but NOT true from the SpamAssassin point
of view. These messages are wanted by their recipients so should not be
scored as spam
* Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My mistake: I cited the wrong domain. Try bounces.amazon.com which they
use in the return path of their messages (I guess for all their
international domains)
http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=bounces.amazon.com
Yes, correct. My tests show
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