On 17-Aug-2009, at 04:24, Ned Slider wrote:
Question - in Postfix do user unknown rejections still incur a dns
RBL lookup, or does the rejection occur before reject_rbl_client?
HELO/EHLO rejections do not reach RBL, and neither do unknown, as long
as you specify the right order in the
On 17-Aug-2009, at 06:38, d.h...@yournetplus.com wrote:
Nope. Only one query to the local spamhaus zone is performed:
http://www.postfix.org/STRESS_README.html#hangup
Oooo, NICE. I'm implementing that right now.
--
Lister: What d'ya think of Betty? Cat: Betty Rubble? Well, I would
LuKreme wrote:
On 17-Aug-2009, at 04:24, Ned Slider wrote:
Question - in Postfix do user unknown rejections still incur a dns
RBL lookup, or does the rejection occur before reject_rbl_client?
HELO/EHLO rejections do not reach RBL, and neither do unknown, as long
as you specify the right
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:02 +0100, Ned Slider wrote:
LuKreme wrote:
On 17-Aug-2009, at 04:24, Ned Slider wrote:
Question - in Postfix do user unknown rejections still incur a dns
RBL lookup, or does the rejection occur before reject_rbl_client?
HELO/EHLO rejections do not reach
Marc Perkel a écrit :
http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html
It appears from Jeff's Blacklists Compared list the Barracuda has
overtaken spamhaus for the #1 position. Not sure about the accuracy of
the list as compared to spamhaus but seams reasonably good to me. I
don't really count apews
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 01:06 +0200, mouss wrote:
...
in short, whatever jeff says, spamhaus is the one. the fundamental
concept is not how many spam it blocks, but how much do I trust it.
Exactly!
On 16-Aug-2009, at 16:55, MySQL Student wrote:
So perhaps instead of adding another RBL, maybe some admins need to
consider adding in some HELO checking / rejection.
Can you explain a bit more here? What are you checking for, that the
host is valid?
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 00:51 -0600, LuKreme wrote:
On 16-Aug-2009, at 16:55, MySQL Student wrote:
So perhaps instead of adding another RBL, maybe some admins need to
consider adding in some HELO checking / rejection.
Can you explain a bit more here? What are you checking for, that the
host
LuKreme wrote:
On 16-Aug-2009, at 16:55, MySQL Student wrote:
So perhaps instead of adding another RBL, maybe some admins need to
consider adding in some HELO checking / rejection.
Can you explain a bit more here? What are you checking for, that the
host is valid?
Quoting Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk:
LuKreme wrote:
On 16-Aug-2009, at 16:55, MySQL Student wrote:
So perhaps instead of adding another RBL, maybe some admins need to
consider adding in some HELO checking / rejection.
Can you explain a bit more here? What are you checking for, that the
On 17.08.09 12:07, d.h...@yournetplus.com wrote:
That all depends upon how you have Postfix configured. I have a gateway
set up here and do the RBL lookups late in the
smtpd_recipient_restrictions just before the greylist policy. I.e.:
smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
[...]
Quoting Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk:
On 17.08.09 12:07, d.h...@yournetplus.com wrote:
That all depends upon how you have Postfix configured. I have a gateway
set up here and do the RBL lookups late in the
smtpd_recipient_restrictions just before the greylist policy. I.e.:
Quoting Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk:
On 17.08.09 12:07, d.h...@yournetplus.com wrote:
That all depends upon how you have Postfix configured. I have a gateway
set up here and do the RBL lookups late in the
smtpd_recipient_restrictions just before the greylist policy. I.e.:
Quoting Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk:
Quoting Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk:
On 17.08.09 12:07, d.h...@yournetplus.com wrote:
That all depends upon how you have Postfix configured. I have a gateway
set up here and do the RBL lookups late in the
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:20:18 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas
uh...@fantomas.sk wrote:
reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.local=127.0.0.10,
reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.local=127.0.0.11,
reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.local,
[...]
isn't this a bit superflous? the last line should doo all
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote:
I have to agree with LuKreme, my overnight had 446 blocked prior to RBL,
and only 387 by RBL. Again, noted that 'Barracuda' missed 43, 35 of
these Spamhaus caught - so for me Spamhaus is still better than
Barracuda. Also, I was sat in on a phone conference at
Michael Hutchinson wrote:
So perhaps instead of adding another RBL, maybe some admins need to
consider adding in some HELO checking / rejection.
Michael,
Your suggestions are wonderful. These techniques will block more spam,
with relatively few FPs, and their implementation doesn't require
Hello All,
Considering all of the interesting information that's being going around
regarding Barracuda, and it's RBL's, I probably wouldn't use it. Not any
time soon. But that's based purely on reputation, and has nothing to do
with hit ratio. Our Spam gateway seems to do just fine without it.
Quoting Michael Hutchinson mhutchin...@manux.co.nz:
Hello All,
Considering all of the interesting information that's being going around
regarding Barracuda, and it's RBL's, I probably wouldn't use it. Not any
time soon. But that's based purely on reputation, and has nothing to do
with hit
Hi,
So perhaps instead of adding another RBL, maybe some admins need to
consider adding in some HELO checking / rejection.
Can you explain a bit more here? What are you checking for, that the
host is valid?
Thanks,
Alex
-Original Message-
From: MySQL Student [mailto:mysqlstud...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 17 August 2009 10:56 a.m.
To: SpamAssassin Users List
Subject: Re: Barracuda RBL in first place
Hi,
So perhaps instead of adding another RBL, maybe some admins need to
consider adding in some
- Marc Perkel m...@perkel.com wrote:
Aaron Wolfe wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Chris Owen ow...@hubris.net wrote:
On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Mike Cardwell wrote:
The comparisons on that page are useless. What matters is list policy,
reliability and reputation.
On 8/15/2009 11:02 AM, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
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RANKRULE NAME COUNT %OFMAIL %OFSPAM %OFHAM
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1 URIBL_INVALUEMENT
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:02:52AM +0100, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
- Marc Perkel m...@perkel.com wrote:
Aaron Wolfe wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Chris Owen ow...@hubris.net wrote:
On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Mike Cardwell wrote:
The comparisons on that page are
Hi,
Unknown user 32.00% (32.00%) 87427696
Greylisted 24.88% (16.92%) 46225401
Throttled 11.03% (5.64%) 15399444
Relay access denied 0.01% (0.00%)
Hi,
What log script do you good people use to generate the list above ? Is it
a home brew or one we can download so we can compare our own hits ?
http://www.rulesemporium.com/programs/sa-stats.txt
Any chance someone knows where there is a compatible one that parses
amavisd instead of spamd?
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:28:01 -0400, MySQL Student mysqlstud...@gmail.com
wrote:
Any chance someone has a bit of time to hack on it on this lazy
Saturday afternoon? :-)
http://www.mikecappella.com/logwatch/
--
Benny Pedersen
well, you have half of it, as any hit shown here by invaluement was
missed by spamhaus. I can't give you the data for other cases because
it's a short circuit - 550 type of thing.
That's not an ideal metric. You really need to test every incoming message
against each RBL (up to 4 or so, to
http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html
It appears from Jeff's Blacklists Compared list the Barracuda has
overtaken spamhaus for the #1 position. Not sure about the accuracy of
the list as compared to spamhaus but seams reasonably good to me. I
don't really count apews myself since they are
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:30:58 -0700
Marc Perkel m...@perkel.com wrote:
http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html
It appears from Jeff's Blacklists Compared list the Barracuda has
overtaken spamhaus for the #1 position. Not sure about the accuracy
of the list as compared to spamhaus but seams
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 06:30 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:
http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html
It appears from Jeff's Blacklists Compared list the Barracuda has
overtaken spamhaus for the #1 position. Not sure about the accuracy of
the list as compared to spamhaus but seams reasonably good
RW wrote:
But isn't Barracuda considered to be more aggressive than Spamhaus, so
is beating Spamhaus on a BOFH metric, where blocking 0.0.0.0/32
would beat everything, much of an acheivement?
my rbl beats everyone.
please find ONE spammer's ipv4 address that isn't listed in
Marc Perkel wrote:
http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html
It appears from Jeff's Blacklists Compared list the Barracuda has
overtaken spamhaus for the #1 position. Not sure about the accuracy of
the list as compared to spamhaus but seams reasonably good to me. I
don't really count apews
On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Mike Cardwell wrote:
The comparisons on that page are useless. What matters is list
policy, reliability and reputation.
SpamHaus is hands down the best dnsbl.
While I certainly agree that SpamHaus is very good, I would argue that
Invalument is currently
On 14-Aug-2009, at 09:03, Michael Scheidell wrote:
my rbl beats everyone.
It IS very effective at stopping spam. In fact, it stops 100% of spam.
But it's sorta like the world's greatest ftp site (ftp://127.0.0.1/)
which has awesome stuff, but it's all stuff I already have
--
I said
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 16:13 +0100, Mike Cardwell wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html
It appears from Jeff's Blacklists Compared list the Barracuda has
overtaken spamhaus for the #1 position. Not sure about the accuracy of
the list as compared to
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:28 -0600, LuKreme wrote:
On 14-Aug-2009, at 09:03, Michael Scheidell wrote:
my rbl beats everyone.
It IS very effective at stopping spam. In fact, it stops 100% of spam.
But it's sorta like the world's greatest ftp site (ftp://127.0.0.1/)
which has awesome
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote:
I've not laughed so much since I added a low priority mx pointing to
127.0.0.1 .
Heh. Looks like someone got there before me:
http://rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=buzzhost.co.uk
--
Mike Cardwell - IT Consultant and LAMP developer
Cardwell IT Ltd.
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 18:33 +0100, Mike Cardwell wrote:
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote:
I've not laughed so much since I added a low priority mx pointing to
127.0.0.1 .
Heh. Looks like someone got there before me:
http://rfc-ignorant.org/tools/lookup.php?domain=buzzhost.co.uk
Mike Cardwell wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html
It appears from Jeff's Blacklists Compared list the Barracuda has
overtaken spamhaus for the #1 position. Not sure about the accuracy
of the list as compared to spamhaus but seams reasonably good to me.
I
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 06:30 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:
http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/spam/cbc.html
It appears from Jeff's Blacklists Compared list the Barracuda has
overtaken spamhaus for the #1 position. Not sure about the accuracy of
the list as
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Chris Owenow...@hubris.net wrote:
On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Mike Cardwell wrote:
The comparisons on that page are useless. What matters is list policy,
reliability and reputation.
SpamHaus is hands down the best dnsbl.
While I certainly agree that
On 14-Aug-2009, at 18:44, Aaron Wolfe wrote:
The Spamhaus Block List 21.87% (6.74%)
18405091
The Invaluement SIP Block List 22.14% (5.33%)
14557404
What would be interesting is the XOR on these two.
I also don't understand what the
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:39 PM, LuKremekrem...@kreme.com wrote:
On 14-Aug-2009, at 18:44, Aaron Wolfe wrote:
The Spamhaus Block List 21.87% (6.74%) 18405091
The Invaluement SIP Block List 22.14% (5.33%) 14557404
What would be interesting is
Aaron Wolfe wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Chris Owenow...@hubris.net wrote:
On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Mike Cardwell wrote:
The comparisons on that page are useless. What matters is list policy,
reliability and reputation.
SpamHaus is hands down
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 16:56 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:
My experience is that the barracuda lists are reasonably good. A few
FP but not a lot.
I get more FP's with Barracuda than I do UCE Protect - which is rather
funny given the slating UCE Protect get.
And if they are exceeding spamhaus then
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