Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-21 Thread @lbutlr
On 2018-02-21 (00:20 MST), Rupert Gallagher wrote: > > Beware that companies use a legal note in their signature as advised by their > lawyers, and many individuals do the same, to inform the reader about laws > that apply regardless of where or when you are reading their

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-20 Thread Rupert Gallagher
You are wrong. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 00:07, @lbutlr wrote: > On 2018-02-20 (06:02 MST), Rupert Gallagher wrote: > > Do you have the legal > right to do so? Absolutely. No one gets to inflict a contract on me. > Especially not a entirely stupid

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-20 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Beware that companies use a legal note in their signature as advised by their lawyers, and many individuals do the same, to inform the reader about laws that apply regardless of where or when you are reading their note. A mail from Europe is subject to data protection. It does not matter if you

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-20 Thread @lbutlr
On 2018-02-20 (06:02 MST), Rupert Gallagher wrote: > > Do you have the legal right to do so? Absolutely. No one gets to inflict a contract on me. Especially not a entirely stupid nonsense thing that like that piece of crap that has no legal weight whatsoever. -- We are

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-20 Thread Rupert Gallagher
The matter is controversial. Lists have own defaults, who often abuse their original aim of mere forwarding, especially when they redistribute from a long-term archive. On the other hand, people have own default banners for all outgoing correspondence, some with explicit reference to the

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-20 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 2/19/2018 7:15 PM, John Hardin wrote: Kevin, can that be set to advisory rather than completely killed? Agreed.  I'll comment out the setting of the score to zero in nonKAMrules.cf.

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-20 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Do you have the legal right to do so? On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 00:23, @lbutlr wrote: > On 2018-02-19 (09:57 MST), Paul Stead wrote: > ...@zeninternet.co.uk> > I reject your terms. @zeninternet.co.uk>

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-20 Thread Daniele Duca
On 18/02/2018 21:06, Kenneth Porter wrote: Is there a blacklist for domains in the reply-to header? I've noticed a lot of spam with no URL and mutating From but the reply-to domain is always aliyun dot com. I want to add a site-wide blacklist for that. If you are willing to write a little SA

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Alex wrote: Hi, On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 3:20 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote: Whatever you do, just do not ask others to blacklist Alibaba Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN? Perhaps just bump

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread Alex
Hi, On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 3:20 PM, John Hardin wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > >> Whatever you do, just do not ask others to blacklist Alibaba > > > Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN? > > Perhaps just bump the score for that locally?

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread @lbutlr
On 2018-02-19 (09:57 MST), Paul Stead wrote: > > This message is private and confidential. If you have received this message > in error, please notify us and remove it from your system. > > Zen Internet Limited may monitor email traffic data to manage billing, to

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
David Jones skrev den 2018-02-19 22:35: https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin I have added a few domains over the past few months but my mail flow isn't going to see many of the problem domains outside of the US like those listed above. https://www.google.dk/search?q=github+freemail seems all

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread David Jones
On 02/19/2018 03:19 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Kenneth Porter wrote: On 2/19/2018 12:20 PM, John Hardin wrote: Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN? No, not seeing that one. After enough training I eventually see it land in Bayes. The RBLs are starting to flag

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Kenneth Porter wrote: On 2/19/2018 12:20 PM, John Hardin wrote: Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN? No, not seeing that one. After enough training I eventually see it land in Bayes. The RBLs are starting to flag it. X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=5.7

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread Kenneth Porter
On 2/19/2018 12:20 PM, John Hardin wrote: Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN? No, not seeing that one. After enough training I eventually see it land in Bayes. The RBLs are starting to flag it. X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=5.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_99,BAYES_999,    

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018, Rupert Gallagher wrote: Whatever you do, just do not ask others to blacklist Alibaba Are those getting hits on SPOOFED_FREEM_REPTO_CHN? Perhaps just bump the score for that locally? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread Rupert Gallagher
I wanted you to see your proposed solution from a different point of view, and I thought the quiz was spot on. As a number of you fell into the trap head first, I am now horrified. Whatever you do, just do not ask others to blacklist Alibaba, and do not blacklist yourself. Sent from ProtonMail

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread Paul Stead
I have a BZ raised for reply-to blacklist checking: https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7354 On 19/02/2018, 15:05, "Kevin A. McGrail" <kevin.mcgr...@mcgrail.com> wrote: On 2/18/2018 3:06 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote: > Is there a blacklist for domains in

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 2/18/2018 3:06 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote: Is there a blacklist for domains in the reply-to header? I've noticed a lot of spam with no URL and mutating From but the reply-to domain is always aliyun dot com. I want to add a site-wide blacklist for that. To my knowledge it doesn't exist.  I

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread Daniele Duca
On 19/02/2018 10:00, Kenneth Porter wrote: I have no clue what Rupert is on about. I just want something like blacklist_from that uses the reply-to header. I thought it was a simple technical question about how the config file directives map onto the actual headers. I'm not asking for site

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-19 Thread Kenneth Porter
On 2/18/2018 5:09 PM, Antony Stone wrote: On Monday 19 February 2018 at 01:55:45, Rupert Gallagher wrote: Question time! You receive spam with a reply-to your own address. What do you do? I take it that this is now a rather different question that the one you originally asked in this thread,

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-18 Thread Rupert Gallagher
You need coffee... Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 02:09, Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 19 February 2018 at 01:55:45, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > Question > time! You receive spam with a reply-to your own address. What do > you

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-18 Thread Benny Pedersen
Antony Stone skrev den 2018-02-19 02:09: C: you ask for advice Good idea; let's see what other replies you get. i hate mondays :=)

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 19 February 2018 at 01:55:45, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > Question time! You receive spam with a reply-to your own address. What do > you do? I take it that this is now a rather different question that the one you originally asked in this thread, where the reply-to address was clearly

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-18 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Question time! You receive spam with a reply-to your own address. What do you do? A: you blacklist your own address B: you ask around to do A for you C: you ask for advice Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 22:39, Kenneth Porter wrote: > --On Sunday,

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-18 Thread Benny Pedersen
Kenneth Porter skrev den 2018-02-18 22:39: These emails are addressed to many of my web-page-only addresses that I've never used to sign up for anything. They're clearly unsolicited. blacklist_to *@spamtrap.example.org in replyto force bayes learn on user in blacklist maybe use

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-18 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:21 PM -0500 Rupert Gallagher wrote: It is not spam. You get it if you have an account with alibaba. Just configure it. These emails are addressed to many of my web-page-only addresses that I've never used to sign up for anything.

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-18 Thread Rupert Gallagher
It is not spam. You get it if you have an account with alibaba. Just configure it. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 21:06, Kenneth Porter wrote: > Is there a blacklist for domains in the reply-to header? I've noticed a lot > of spam with no URL and

Re: Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-18 Thread Rob McEwen
On 2/18/2018 3:06 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote: Is there a blacklist for domains in the reply-to header? I've noticed a lot of spam with no URL and mutating From but the reply-to domain is always aliyun dot com. I want to add a site-wide blacklist for that. http://msbl.org (I'm not associated

Blacklist for reply-to?

2018-02-18 Thread Kenneth Porter
Is there a blacklist for domains in the reply-to header? I've noticed a lot of spam with no URL and mutating From but the reply-to domain is always aliyun dot com. I want to add a site-wide blacklist for that.