Re: I need MORE SPAM - You get less spam

2010-07-20 Thread Dave O'Neill
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 01:39:32PM -0700, John Hardin wrote: I'll say it again, Marc: you'd get better response from large sites if you offered source code for a small SMTP daemon that did the connection analysis you want and sent to you just the offending IP addresses via an auditable

Re: I need MORE SPAM - You get less spam

2010-07-20 Thread Daniel McDonald
On 7/20/10 8:53 AM, Dave O'Neill d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 01:39:32PM -0700, John Hardin wrote: I'll say it again, Marc: you'd get better response from large sites if you offered source code for a small SMTP daemon that did the connection analysis you want and

Re: I need MORE SPAM - You get less spam

2010-07-20 Thread Dave O'Neill
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 09:54:08AM -0500, Daniel McDonald wrote: Looks nice, but the only report types are IPv4 and IPv6. You may wish to describe domain-name (uri), domain-name (fcdns) and domain-name (email) report types, as those may be more applicable to Marc's purposes. Well, first

I need MORE SPAM - You get less spam

2010-07-19 Thread Marc Perkel
Still trying to build my black list (hostkarma) and looking for more spam. The way it works is that any of you can add this as your highest numbered MX record. http://wiki.junkemailfilter.com/index.php/Project_tarbaby It returns a 421 error after the DATA command. Anything that comes to us

Re: I need MORE SPAM - You get less spam

2010-07-19 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, Marc Perkel wrote: Still trying to build my black list (hostkarma) and looking for more spam. The way it works is that any of you can add this as your highest numbered MX record. I'll say it again, Marc: you'd get better response from large sites if you offered source

Re: I need MORE SPAM - You get less spam

2010-07-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Marc, So then OK what happens when a BGP flap somewhere on the Internet that isn't even us, cuts us off for 10 minutes and 500 pieces of legitimate mail end up going to your server? Domains these days are really, really cheap. Just setup some honeypots, man. Ted On 7/19/2010 12:48 PM,

Re: I need MORE SPAM - You get less spam

2010-07-19 Thread Marc Perkel
The tarbaby server can tell the different between legit email and spam bot mail. It doesn't blacklist everything that hits it. And the good email will be turned away with a 4xx error. On 7/19/2010 1:52 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Marc, So then OK what happens when a BGP flap somewhere on

Re: I need MORE SPAM - You get less spam

2010-07-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Even the best spmfilters we have cannot tell the difference between legit e-mail and spambot mail 100% of the time. I know you think that you have a clever way of collecting spambots since you are depending on a border case. Most of these clever solutions depend on border cases, it could be