Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-27 Thread Tom Allison
On a related note-- I have a mailing list with a single user who randomly bounces spam to the mailing list because his filters tag it as spam. His poorly performing spam filter (no clue if it's SA or not) is affecting 100's or 1000's of users who generally want him hurt. Additionally, he

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-27 Thread Matt
I have a mailing list with a single user who randomly bounces spam to the mailing list because his filters tag it as spam. Do the bounces have his return address on them? Matt His poorly performing spam filter (no clue if it's SA or not) is affecting 100's or 1000's of users who generally

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-18 Thread jdow
From: Jari Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] jdow wrote: From: WLamotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry if this is an obvious question but why isn't there an option for Spamassassin to bounce spam? Sure it does a good job at filtering spam but I don't want it from my web(mail)server to my inbox. I want

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-17 Thread jdow
From: WLamotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry if this is an obvious question but why isn't there an option for Spamassassin to bounce spam? Sure it does a good job at filtering spam but I don't want it from my web(mail)server to my inbox. I want my web- or mailserver to bounce suspected spam. Is

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-17 Thread WLamotte
WLamotte wrote: Sorry if this is an obvious question but why isn't there an option for Spamassassin to bounce spam? Sure it does a good job at filtering spam but I don't want it from my web(mail)server to my inbox. I want my web- or mailserver to bounce suspected spam. Is this a feature that

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-17 Thread Jari Fredriksson
jdow wrote: From: WLamotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry if this is an obvious question but why isn't there an option for Spamassassin to bounce spam? Sure it does a good job at filtering spam but I don't want it from my web(mail)server to my inbox. I want my web- or mailserver to bounce

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-17 Thread Jack L. Stone
I can tell you reliably that I will crawl through the wires back to the MTA that bounced back to me and rip the CPU out of the hard drive. And if the operator is nearby I will rip his heart out through his mouth. {o.o} Joanne hates idiots who bounce and thus commit joe jobs. 'Nuf

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-17 Thread Matt Kettler
Jari Fredriksson wrote: jdow wrote: Having been a victim of a forged From: address hack, a Joe Job, I can tell you reliably that I will crawl through the wires back to the MTA that bounced back to me and rip the CPU out of the hard drive. And if the operator is nearby I will rip his

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-16 Thread Matt
ExiScan has been part of exim for quite a while now. We reject spam at SMTP with exim and SA when it scores above 15. We have not, as of yet, had a FP near that high. The spams are logged in such a way it makes it easy to create a report including the SA report, the from, to, subject, etc and

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-16 Thread John Rudd
Matt wrote: ExiScan has been part of exim for quite a while now. We reject spam at SMTP with exim and SA when it scores above 15. We have not, as of yet, had a FP near that high. The spams are logged in such a way it makes it easy to create a report including the SA report, the from, to,

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-16 Thread Tom Allison
John Rudd wrote: Matt wrote: ExiScan has been part of exim for quite a while now. We reject spam at SMTP with exim and SA when it scores above 15. We have not, as of yet, had a FP near that high. The spams are logged in such a way it makes it easy to create a report including the SA report,

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-16 Thread Magnus Holmgren
Matt wrote: I agree, bouncing that way is bad. Something I have thought about lately is rejecting. We have run ClamAV on Exim for years now. It scans messages at MTA time and rejects any that contain viruses. Does not 'really' bounce them just refuses them. There is talk of a mod to Exim

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-16 Thread John Thompson
On 2007-06-15, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bounce spam? Are you nuts? This is as worse as the spammers sending them. Please dont even consider this. Any idea where all these 'bounces' end up? Innocent victems... I agree, bouncing that way is bad. Something I have thought about lately is

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-16 Thread John Thompson
On 2007-06-15, WLamotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is an obvious question but why isn't there an option for Spamassassin to bounce spam? Sure it does a good job at filtering spam but I don't want it from my web(mail)server to my inbox. I want my web- or mailserver to bounce

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-16 Thread John Rudd
Tom Allison wrote: John Rudd wrote: Matt wrote: ExiScan has been part of exim for quite a while now. We reject spam at SMTP with exim and SA when it scores above 15. We have not, as of yet, had a FP near that high. The spams are logged in such a way it makes it easy to create a report

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-16 Thread Matt
I agree, bouncing that way is bad. Something I have thought about lately is rejecting. We have run ClamAV on Exim for years now. It scans messages at MTA time and rejects any that contain viruses. Does not 'really' bounce them just refuses them. There is talk of a mod to Exim to do same

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-15 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Spamassassin to bounce spam? Sure it does a good job at filtering spam but I don't want it from my web(mail)server to my inbox. I want my web- or mailserver to bounce suspected spam. Is this a feature that could be implemented? Bounce spam? Are you nuts? This is as worse as the spammers

RE: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-15 Thread Rick Cooper
-Original Message- From: WLamotte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:13 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam? Sorry if this is an obvious question but why isn't there an option for Spamassassin

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-15 Thread Duncan Hill
On Fri, June 15, 2007 15:13, WLamotte wrote: Sorry if this is an obvious question but why isn't there an option for Spamassassin to bounce spam? Sure it does a good job at filtering spam but I don't want it from my web(mail)server to my inbox. I want my web- or mailserver to bounce

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-15 Thread John D. Hardin
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, WLamotte wrote: Sorry if this is an obvious question but why isn't there an option for Spamassassin to bounce spam? To boil down the responses: because SA is a scoring tool, only. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-15 Thread Matt
Spamassassin to bounce spam? Sure it does a good job at filtering spam but I don't want it from my web(mail)server to my inbox. I want my web- or mailserver to bounce suspected spam. Is this a feature that could be implemented? Bounce spam? Are you nuts? This is as worse as the spammers

Re: Why doesn't Spamassassin bounce spam?

2007-06-15 Thread Matt Kettler
WLamotte wrote: Sorry if this is an obvious question but why isn't there an option for Spamassassin to bounce spam? Sure it does a good job at filtering spam but I don't want it from my web(mail)server to my inbox. I want my web- or mailserver to bounce suspected spam. Is this a feature that