Re: RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-04 Thread Giles Coochey
On 03/02/2011 22:51, Adam Moffett wrote: That's an interesting point of view. It was suggested on this list fairly recently to publish a fake secondary MX as a way to reduce spam. The stated reason being that some spamming software hits the backup MX first and if that doesn't work will

Re: RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-04 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 2/4/11 4:54 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: to use it for an IP address that is allocated and is controlled by you. O I think the ip of your router might work. as long as a) you never have an ip on it b) you don't load 'hits' on it to dshield. your dns server, the ip of your outbound nat (as long

Re: RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-04 Thread mouss
Le 03/02/2011 22:51, Adam Moffett a écrit : That's good. The only useful list (BogusMX) can be discovered without querying rfc-ignorant anyway. Just get the MX records for the sending domain (which are almost certainly in cache) and make sure they resolve to real IP addresses. We reject

Re: RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-03 Thread Warren Togami Jr.
On 2/2/2011 7:45 AM, John Levine wrote: RFC Ignorant is deep into kook territory, as should be apparent if you look at which RFCs they expect people to follow, and what their definition of follow is. abuse.net has been listed for years, since there is an autoresponder on ab...@abuse.net, and

Re: RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-03 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 10:42:27 -1000 Warren Togami Jr. wtog...@gmail.com wrote: https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6526 We finally agreed that rfc-ignorant.org is useless, or slightly more harmful than good. Spamassassin will be disabling these rules by default sometime

Re: RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-03 Thread Adam Moffett
That's good. The only useful list (BogusMX) can be discovered without querying rfc-ignorant anyway. Just get the MX records for the sending domain (which are almost certainly in cache) and make sure they resolve to real IP addresses. We reject domains that publish MX records in 127/8 or the

Re: RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-03 Thread David F. Skoll
Ha! I tried posting some log lines and they got rejected because of SURBL hits! :) Here goes again... remove the capital X from domain names and IP addresses :) On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:51:15 -0500 Adam Moffett adamli...@plexicomm.net wrote: That's an interesting point of view. It was

Re: RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-02 Thread Joseph Brennan
David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: The battle raged for a while, but eventually we were delisted. (We block mail from to postmas...@roaringpenguin.com because we never, ever send mail from postmas...@roaringpenguin.com) We do the same for postmas...@columbia.edu for the same

Re: RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-02 Thread John Levine
RFC Ignorant is deep into kook territory, as should be apparent if you look at which RFCs they expect people to follow, and what their definition of follow is. abuse.net has been listed for years, since there is an autoresponder on ab...@abuse.net, and I've never noticed any delivery problems.

Re: RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello David F. Skoll, Am 2011-02-01 10:02:50, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: The battle raged for a while, but eventually we were delisted. (We block mail from to postmas...@roaringpenguin.com because we never, ever send mail from postmas...@roaringpenguin.com) Hmmm, if you could know,

RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-01 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:52:04 -0500 Michael Scheidell michael.scheid...@secnap.com wrote: [204.89.241.253] mail from: 250 OK rcpt to: ab...@caledonia.net 550 Missing, invalid or expired BATV signature A long time ago, I was involved with an argument with the RFC-Ignorant maintainer. The