Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, March 27, 2008 11:28, Enrico Scholz wrote: Benny Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: spamassassin 21 -D spf -t /tmp/msg /tmp/msg.spf.debug post the debug file https://www.cvg.de/people/ensc/spf_fail.txt info: generic: trusted_networks doesn't contain msa_networks entry

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-29 Thread Enrico Scholz
Benny Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: https://www.cvg.de/people/ensc/spf_fail.txt info: generic: trusted_networks doesn't contain msa_networks entry '192.168.0.0/16' this is fail You mean, that this is a bug in Spamassassin? this line here i dont like dbg: metadata:

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-27 Thread Enrico Scholz
Benny Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: spamassassin 21 -D spf -t /tmp/msg /tmp/msg.spf.debug post the debug file https://www.cvg.de/people/ensc/spf_fail.txt (full debug with configuration of | $ sed '/^\(#.*\)\?$/d' ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs | internal_networks 62.153.82.30 |

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-26 Thread Enrico Scholz
Benny Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a problem that mails from internal (private) IPs generate SPF_FAIL hits. E.g. my configuration is | internal_networks 62.153.82.30 | internal_networks 192.168.0.0/16 | trusted_networks62.153.82.30 | trusted_networks

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-26 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, March 26, 2008 09:24, Enrico Scholz wrote: | msa_networks192.168.0.0/16 spamassassin 21 -D spf -t /tmp/msg /tmp/msg.spf.debug post the debug file /tmp/msg is a email where it happends Benny Pedersen Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust37098

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Enrico Scholz
Benny Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a problem that mails from internal (private) IPs generate SPF_FAIL hits. E.g. my configuration is | internal_networks 62.153.82.30 | internal_networks 192.168.0.0/16 | | trusted_networks62.153.82.30 | trusted_networks

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Enrico Scholz
Benny Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: internal and trusted should be all ips you have access to but not open to the whole world Documentation about trusted_networks says something else: A trusted host could conceivably relay spam, but will not originate it, and will not forge header

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Benny Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: internal and trusted should be all ips you have access to but not open to the whole world On 25.03.08 10:46, Enrico Scholz wrote: Documentation about trusted_networks says something else: A trusted host could conceivably relay spam, but will

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Enrico Scholz
Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: only your mail infrastructure (e.g. MX backups, SMTP filters etc) should be in internal_networks. fix this and then see what SPF checks will produce citing from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ok; fixed it by removing the 192.168.0.0/16 from

RE: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Robert - elists
ok; fixed it by removing the 192.168.0.0/16 from 'internal_networks'. But problem still persists that senders from the private 192.168.0.0/16 network are tagged with SPF_FAIL. Enrico Having watched the thread and not fully recalling every post... I have not checked this, yet

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 25.03.08 16:11, Enrico Scholz wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: only your mail infrastructure (e.g. MX backups, SMTP filters etc) should be in internal_networks. fix this and then see what SPF checks will produce citing from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ok; fixed it

RE: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Robert - elists
aha, so you should check now, why do those fail. Is that your domain SPF checks fail for? If so, your users should probably use SMTP authentication when sending e-mail. -- Matus UHLAR Matus You are bright, and as you know, that will not fix SPF issue if they are still SA scanning the

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Enrico Scholz
Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But problem still persists that senders from the private 192.168.0.0/16 network are tagged with SPF_FAIL. aha, so you should check now, why do those fail. Perhaps, because spamassassin does not provide an option to disable SPF scan for

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But problem still persists that senders from the private 192.168.0.0/16 network are tagged with SPF_FAIL. aha, so you should check now, why do those fail. On 25.03.08 17:47, Enrico Scholz wrote: Perhaps, because spamassassin does

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 17:47 +0100, Enrico Scholz wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What would be the sideeffects of adding '+ip4:192.168.0.0/16' to the SPF record? For one thing, you would describe your internal topology to every hacker in the world Secondly, you

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Enrico Scholz
Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe the SA people decided not to do that. Maybe only those should provide SPF records who can verify their own customers - why should you use SPF otherwise? Sorry, I don't understand the logic behind this... What would be the sideeffects

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe the SA people decided not to do that. Maybe only those should provide SPF records who can verify their own customers - why should you use SPF otherwise? On 25.03.08 18:25, Enrico Scholz wrote: Sorry, I don't understand the logic

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Enrico Scholz
McDonald, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What would be the sideeffects of adding '+ip4:192.168.0.0/16' to the SPF record? For one thing, you would describe your internal topology to every hacker in the world imo, knownledge that there are IPs from the 10.0.0.0/8 or 192.168.0.0/16 range

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Enrico Scholz
Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I mean, is SPF usefull for a domain, when some hosts (even not trusted) can send you mail from that domain, without authentication? Why not? Senders from this domain are allowed from a certain IP only. Everything else should fire SPF_FAIL.

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Dave Pooser
An SPF_PASS is pretty worthless But awfully handy for whitelist_from_spf. -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, March 25, 2008 10:40, Enrico Scholz wrote: Benny Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a problem that mails from internal (private) IPs generate SPF_FAIL hits. E.g. my configuration is | internal_networks 62.153.82.30 | internal_networks 192.168.0.0/16 |

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-24 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, March 19, 2008 18:42, Enrico Scholz wrote: Hi, I have a problem that mails from internal (private) IPs generate SPF_FAIL hits. E.g. my configuration is | internal_networks 62.153.82.30 | internal_networks 192.168.0.0/16 | | trusted_networks62.153.82.30 |

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-24 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, March 20, 2008 16:48, Enrico Scholz wrote: ok; fixed it by removing the 192.168.0.0/16 from 'internal_networks'. But problem still persists that senders from the private 192.168.0.0/16 network are tagged with SPF_FAIL. if you have nic cards that are open to the air with that ip

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-21 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On torsdagen den 20 mars 2008, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: you probably do not understand the internal_networks meaning. internal networks are only those (fully) under your control, trusted may not be under your control but you have to trust them I'd say that internal_networks contain hosts

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On torsdagen den 20 mars 2008, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: you probably do not understand the internal_networks meaning. internal networks are only those (fully) under your control, trusted may not be under your control but you have to trust them On 21.03.08 19:01, Magnus Holmgren wrote:

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-20 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 19.03.08 18:42, Enrico Scholz wrote: I have a problem that mails from internal (private) IPs generate SPF_FAIL hits. E.g. my configuration is | internal_networks 62.153.82.30 | internal_networks 192.168.0.0/16 | | trusted_networks62.153.82.30 | trusted_networks

Re: Howto stop SPF_FAIL from internal network?

2008-03-20 Thread Enrico Scholz
Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a problem that mails from internal (private) IPs generate SPF_FAIL hits. E.g. my configuration is | internal_networks 62.153.82.30 | internal_networks 192.168.0.0/16 | | trusted_networks62.153.82.30 |