Sv: Re: Need some help decoding an SA analysis

2024-06-17 Thread Anders Gustafsson
Read the document. Upgraded. Ran sa-update (always forget that) We really have a very simple setup, except for our homegrown integration wiith our email system. So I added enable_compat welcomelist_blocklist" to init.pre Then did a search/replace of local.cf for all whitelist

Re: Need some help decoding an SA analysis

2024-06-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
Anders Gustafsson skrev den 2024-06-16 13:42: This one: Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5 (2021-03-20) on xx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5,RDNS_NONE,

Re: Need some help decoding an SA analysis

2024-06-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 16.06.24 14:42, Anders Gustafsson wrote: Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5 (2021-03-20) on xx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5,RDNS_NONE,

Need some help decoding an SA analysis

2024-06-16 Thread Anders Gustafsson
This one: Return-path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5 (2021-03-20) on xx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_HTML_ONLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L5,RDNS_NONE,

Re: Difference between spamc -L and sa-learn

2024-05-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 2024-05-18 at 10:26:54 UTC-0400 (Sat, 18 May 2024 16:26:54 +0200) Francis Augusto Medeiros-Logeay is rumored to have said: Is there any difference between using spamc -L and sa-learn ? On 18.05.24 11:41, Bill Cole wrote: Yes. The compiled-C spamc binary loads no Perl, it just talks over

Re: Difference between spamc -L and sa-learn

2024-05-18 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-05-18 at 10:26:54 UTC-0400 (Sat, 18 May 2024 16:26:54 +0200) Francis Augusto Medeiros-Logeay is rumored to have said: Hi, Is there any difference between using spamc -L and sa-learn ? Yes. The compiled-C spamc binary loads no Perl, it just talks over a socket to spamd, which

Difference between spamc -L and sa-learn

2024-05-18 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros-Logeay
Hi, Is there any difference between using spamc -L and sa-learn ? I noticed that the later is way slower. I don’t use a journal for local updating, so both write directly to the database. Best, Francis

Re: SA treats percentage spaces wording as uri

2024-05-14 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-05-13 at 20:09:33 UTC-0400 (Tue, 14 May 2024 10:09:33 +1000) Noel Butler is rumored to have said: This morning one of our ent_domains DMARC weekly report from a third party was listed as spam by SA which took the wording Not_percent-twenty_Resolved and passed it off to URI checks

Re: SA treats percentage spaces wording as uri

2024-05-14 Thread Shawn Iverson
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:10 PM Noel Butler wrote: > This morning one of our ent_domains DMARC weekly report from a third party > was listed as spam by SA which took the wording > Not_percent-twenty_Resolved and passed it off to URI checks adding > dot.com to it when there is no d

Re: SA treats percentage spaces wording as uri

2024-05-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 14.05.24 10:09, Noel Butler wrote: This morning one of our ent_domains DMARC weekly report from a third party was listed as spam by SA which took the wording Not_percent-twenty_Resolved and passed it off to URI checks adding dot.com to it when there is no dot com after it, and a raw

SA treats percentage spaces wording as uri

2024-05-13 Thread Noel Butler
This morning one of our ent_domains DMARC weekly report from a third party was listed as spam by SA which took the wording Not_percent-twenty_Resolved and passed it off to URI checks adding dot.com to it when there is no dot com after it, and a raw message search of that message in less

Re: SA 4.0.1 - DMARC plugin

2024-04-20 Thread Sidney Markowitz
, would result in this error. Sidney Mateusz Krawczyk wrote on 20/04/24 1:07 am: Hello, after updating SA 4.0.0 to 4.0.1, (CentOS 7 - Perl version 5.16.3) I get the following message in log regarding the DMARC plugin: plugin: eval failed: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference

Re: SA 4.0.1 - DMARC plugin

2024-04-19 Thread Sidney Markowitz
in this error. Sidney Mateusz Krawczyk wrote on 20/04/24 1:07 am: Hello, after updating SA 4.0.0 to 4.0.1, (CentOS 7 - Perl version 5.16.3) I get the following message in log regarding the DMARC plugin: plugin: eval failed: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/share/perl5

Re: SA 4.0.1 - DMARC plugin

2024-04-19 Thread Sidney Markowitz
that does not pass a DMARC chack, has one or more Authentication-Results headers, and none of them have an spf= field, would result in this error. Sidney Mateusz Krawczyk wrote on 20/04/24 1:07 am: Hello, after updating SA 4.0.0 to 4.0.1, (CentOS 7 - Perl version 5.16.3) I get the following

SA 4.0.1 - DMARC plugin

2024-04-19 Thread Mateusz Krawczyk
Hello, after updating SA 4.0.0 to 4.0.1, (CentOS 7 - Perl version 5.16.3) I get the following message in log regarding the DMARC plugin: plugin: eval failed: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/DMARC.pm line 336. File "DMARC.pm&

Re: WARNING: Microsoft has earned removal from SA default welcomelist

2024-04-13 Thread Noel Butler
On 13/04/2024 19:27, Marc wrote: All nice and well, but a bit decades to late. There should never have been such default whitelist. Companies should take care not be on blacklists, and should maintain some Absolutely, no arguments there! After all spf -all exists already for a long time. So

RE: WARNING: Microsoft has earned removal from SA default welcomelist

2024-04-13 Thread Marc
All nice and well, but a bit decades to late. There should never have been such default whitelist. Companies should take care not be on blacklists, and should maintain some degree of standard implementation to send out email. After all spf -all exists already for a long time. So why are

Re: WARNING: Microsoft has earned removal from SA default welcomelist

2024-04-12 Thread Noel Butler
On 13/04/2024 03:20, Bill Cole wrote: In my opinion, this is an indication that the default welcomelist entries in the official I'm good with that, so long as likes of google are not in any whitelist either. I haven't been following all the anti spam stuff as much as I used to (I have

Re: WARNING: Microsoft has earned removal from SA default welcomelist

2024-04-12 Thread Jared Hall via users
as I know. This is entirely unrelated to any domains hosted by Microsoft, it is strictly an email address welcomelisting (see SA docs for details.) +1 This may raise some questions and trigger a debate on the formal meaning of the SA default welcomelist entries. That debate belongs

WARNING: Microsoft has earned removal from SA default welcomelist

2024-04-12 Thread Bill Cole
ar as I know. This is entirely unrelated to any domains hosted by Microsoft, it is strictly an email address welcomelisting (see SA docs for details.) I will be committing the rule change today and it should appear in the default rules distribution channel by Monday. Anyone who is relying on

Re: [sa-list] BIMI pilot at Google

2024-03-12 Thread Dan Mahoney
> On Jul 22, 2020, at 23:56, Luis E. Muñoz wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2020, at 23:14, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > >> However, I have questions of adoption rate, impersonation concerns, >> anticompetitive concerns, and privacy concerns. This just sounds like a >> commercial tracking pixel but the

Re: install SA p a i n f u l l

2024-01-30 Thread Bill Cole
any specific details I can't really offer a solution. I can say that AS ALWAYS it is a bad idea to build and test ANY software as 'root' and SA does not accommodate doing so. There may well be places where the tests fail slowly if you run them as root. The only step you should perform as root

Re: install SA p a i n f u l l

2024-01-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
, why? because its tests failed for timeouts this, timeouts that, everytime its set keeps on retrying reporting Why don't you install SA from packaging system? Don't you use FreeBSD or some linux distro? error: config: no rules were found! Do you need to run 'sa-update'? config: no rules were

Re: install SA p a i n f u l l

2024-01-29 Thread Nick Edwards
I chose to install this whilst we left for lunch, but 45mins > later to my horror it was still trying to install, why? because its tests > failed for timeouts this, timeouts that, everytime its set keeps on > retrying reporting > > error: config: no rules were found! Do you need to run 'sa

install SA p a i n f u l l

2024-01-29 Thread Nick Edwards
for timeouts this, timeouts that, everytime its set keeps on retrying reporting error: config: no rules were found! Do you need to run 'sa-update'? config: no rules were found! Do you need to run 'sa-update'? of fricken course there is no rules, its a new fricken install that cpan hasn't got around

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-20 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 15:15 +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-19 11:12: > > > I rely on DNSWL for the reputable MX. > > if repution is 100% needed we all have to make local rescore on all > local mails, since repution is to be local, not external just > > i

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 1/19/24 16:32, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: There is a filtering rule in Gmail: *Never send it to Spam* I apply that rule to extremely important emails such as debian-bugs- dist and debian-devel-announce. You know that. I know that. But trying to

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/19/24 16:32, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: There is a filtering rule in Gmail: *Never send it to Spam* I apply that rule to extremely important emails such as debian-bugs- dist and debian-devel-announce. You know that. I know that. But trying to explain to the board members I'm helping out

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Hellow Thomas, > But it drops it into the spam folder every time. So when I'm sending > emails to someone's alias, they have to check their spam folder. Even > when they mark it as "not spam," GMail still drops it into the spam > folder. It's very frustrating. > There is a filtering rule in

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/19/24 14:33, Matija Nalis wrote: You would need to encourage at least several of the recepients (the more the better) to click on "Not spam" button on GMail on such mails. Then it will (eventually) start accepting them normally. Yup, that's basically what I've been doing. see e.g.

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Matija Nalis
On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 10:37:13AM -0600, Thomas Cameron wrote: > The forwarded email is being *accepted* by GMail. My issue now is that GMail > drops it into the recipient's spam folder. I suspect it's a reputation > thing. Once the server is up and running for a while, I'm hoping that GMail >

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/7/24 05:40, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for.  If email comes into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get forwarded to the president's "real"

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/7/24 04:07, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: Hellow Thomas, See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1043539#88 Sincerely, Byung-Hee The issue is not so much that GMail doesn't accept the email. It does, since I have DKIM, DMARC, and SPF set up. But it drops it into the spam

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-19 11:12: I rely on DNSWL for the reputable MX. if repution is 100% needed we all have to make local rescore on all local mails, since repution is to be local, not external just i consider dnswl level 0 to be possitive scored, and let the other levels be

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Marc skrev den 2024-01-19 09:34: Hi Byung and Benny, are you having a nice MX party? :) not needed yet, hehe

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-19 06:16: Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Recently, i created dedicated MXs and am continuing to operate them. Plus, the dedicated MXs run on Google Cloud and RimuHosting. it was to vierd for me to figure out how to get it working, and posible in the

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Fri, 2024-01-19 at 08:34 +, Marc wrote: > > > Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27: > > > > > > > Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. > > > > > > +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :) > > > > > > > Hellow Benny, > > > > Actually i used Google MX for 10 years.

RE: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-19 Thread Marc
> > Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27: > > > > > Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. > > > > +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :) > > > > Hellow Benny, > > Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Recently, i created dedicated > MXs and am continuing to operate them.

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-18 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Mon, 2024-01-08 at 17:17 +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27: > > > Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. > > +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :) > Hellow Benny, Actually i used Google MX for 10 years. Recently, i created dedicated MXs

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Byung-Hee HWANG skrev den 2024-01-08 12:27: Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. +1, so you are ready to setup google mx ? :) https://support.google.com/a/answer/140034?hl=en i don't like it yet, missing dnssec and dane, tlsa, google is not friendly there if google wants my

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
This is not a good advice. Whoever filters SPF at SMTP time will reject that message. Gmail is not the only mail service available. On 08.01.24 20:27, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. that's what I wanted to say - enough for someone, but not generally

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-08 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
> > This is not a good advice. Whoever filters SPF at SMTP time will > reject that > message. Gmail is not the only mail service available. Hellow Matus, Gmail is my last INBOX. That's enough for me. Sincerely, Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-07 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get forwarded to the president's "real" email address, say

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-07 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
> > I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email > comes > into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally > just > create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get > forwarded to the president's "real" email address, say >

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 01:24:02PM -0600, Thomas Cameron via users wrote: > On 1/2/24 17:51, Andy Smith wrote: > > - Have your users collect their your-org email by some means other > >than SMTP, such as running an IMAP server and having them view > >both their gmail mailbox and

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-04 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/4/24 06:35, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 03.01.24 20:36, Thomas Cameron wrote: Fair point. But I'm guessing that because it has two DKIM signatures, it's not passing the DKIM check. only one of those DKIM dignatures needs to pass, with the domain in From: Yup, and it seems to be

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-04 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/4/24 06:31, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 03.01.24 19:30, Thomas Cameron wrote: Thanks for the advice on SRS - I have set it up and it's mostly working. At least GMail accepts the emails, although it seems to be failing DKIM and DMARC tests. I'm digging into what, if anything, can be

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Thomas Cameron writes: Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the forwarded email on GMail, I see in the headers that both the original sending email server (call it mail.somedomain.com) and the relay server (call it mail.myassociation.org) put DKIM signatures in the message. On 1/3/24

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 1/3/24 15:44, Bill Cole wrote: Indeed: your solution is known as "SRS" (Sender Rewriting Scheme) and it has multiple implementations. If you forward mail, you will break SPF unless you fix the envelope sender so that it uses a domain  that permits the example.org server to send for it.

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/3/24 19:45, Greg Troxel wrote: Thomas Cameron writes: Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the forwarded email on GMail, I see in the headers that both the original sending email server (call it mail.somedomain.com) and the relay server (call it mail.myassociation.org) put DKIM

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Thomas Cameron writes: > Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the forwarded email on GMail, I > see in the headers that both the original sending email server (call > it mail.somedomain.com) and the relay server (call it > mail.myassociation.org) put DKIM signatures in the message. That's

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/3/24 17:41, Greg Troxel wrote: You are overlooking that DKIM from the original From: is the responsibility of that domain and that if you do not modify the message then it should still pass. Domains sending without DKIM are going to be a mess. Yeah, the weird thing is, when I check the

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/3/24 15:44, Bill Cole wrote: Indeed: your solution is known as "SRS" (Sender Rewriting Scheme) and it has multiple implementations. If you forward mail, you will break SPF unless you fix the envelope sender so that it uses a domain  that permits the example.org server to send for it.

[SOLVED] Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 1/3/24 18:16, Michael Grant wrote: Here's what I have done in the past from my server to get around this situation you are having: 1. In my .procmailrc file :0c: !exam...@gmail.com This sends a copy (the c flag in first line) of the message to the gmail account and leaves a copy in your

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Michael Grant via users
Here's what I have done in the past from my server to get around this situation you are having: 1. In my .procmailrc file :0c: !exam...@gmail.com This sends a copy (the c flag in first line) of the message to the gmail account and leaves a copy in your inbox. 2. From your exam...@gmail.com

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Greg Troxel
"Thomas Cameron via users" writes: > I actually set up SPF, DMARC, and DKIM on the non-profit's email > server. It works fine if I send email from the server. > > The rub is, I want all emails to presid...@example.org to be forwarded > to presidents_real_addr...@gmail.com. Since the forward

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread admin
Hello Thomas, This might help too: These failures are often due to SPFs that have a hard fail (meaning they end with ‘-all’). When I dealt with this in the past, the original sending domain was one where we could modify the SPF. So we had the email sender change “-all” to “~all” and since that

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-01-03 at 14:17:11 UTC-0500 (Wed, 3 Jan 2024 13:17:11 -0600) Thomas Cameron via users is rumored to have said: The rub is, I want all emails to presid...@example.org to be forwarded to presidents_real_addr...@gmail.com. Since the forward happens at mail.example.org, the "from" is from

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron via users
On 1/2/24 17:51, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Thomas, On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 04:24:37PM -0600, Thomas Cameron via users wrote: I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just create an alias in /etc/aliases

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-03 Thread Thomas Cameron via users
This is just an odd corner case where the easiest thing to do is just redirect emails to the non-profit's president's real email address. Instead of using /etc/aliases, I'm playing around with a procmail recipe to munge the "from." We'll see if it works. I apologize this isn't strictl

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-02 Thread Jared Hall via users
, SPF/DKIM/DMARC Auth-neutral will become the new "bad". I apologize this isn't strictly SA related, I am just hoping someone can give me advice or provide I link to follow on how to make this work. package: opendkim + access to your managed domain's DNS records. $0.02, -- Jared Hall

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-02 Thread Greg Troxel
"Thomas Cameron via users" writes: > I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes > into the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just > create an alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get > forwarded to the president's "real" email

Re: Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Thomas, On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 04:24:37PM -0600, Thomas Cameron via users wrote: > I built email servers for a non-profit I volunteer for. If email comes into > the server for presid...@myassociation.org, I would normally just create an > alias in /etc/aliases so that emails to president@ get

Question about forwarding email (not specifically SA, pointers greatly appreciated)

2024-01-02 Thread Thomas Cameron via users
this isn't strictly SA related, I am just hoping someone can give me advice or provide I link to follow on how to make this work. Thanks, Thomas

Re: missing something in new SA config

2023-12-28 Thread AJ Weber
what is in the /etc/mail/spamassassin/.razor/razor-agent.conf ? debuglevel = 3 identity   = identity ignorelist = 0 listfile_catalogue = servers.catalogue.lst listfile_discovery = servers.discovery.lst listfile_nomination    =

Re: missing something in new SA config

2023-12-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 27.12.23 10:30, AJ Weber wrote: Migrating a mailserver with SA and I see this in my log when testing: spamd[30912]: razor2: razor2 check failed: No such file or directory razor2: Can't read: /var/lib/razor/ at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm line 331. My

Re: missing something in new SA config

2023-12-27 Thread AJ Weber
Thanks for the reply. SA v3.4.6 razor is installed: optional module installed: Razor2::Client::Agent, version 2.84 razor plugin is enabled in v310.pre: loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Razor2 I don't see any "logs" in the first page of the lint output. Would you

Re: missing something in new SA config

2023-12-27 Thread Benny Pedersen
AJ Weber skrev den 2023-12-27 16:30: Migrating a mailserver with SA and I see this in my log when testing: spamd[30912]: razor2: razor2 check failed: No such file or directory razor2: Can't read: /var/lib/razor/ at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm line 331

missing something in new SA config

2023-12-27 Thread AJ Weber
Migrating a mailserver with SA and I see this in my log when testing: spamd[30912]: razor2: razor2 check failed: No such file or directory razor2: Can't read: /var/lib/razor/ at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Razor2.pm line 331. My local.cf has the following

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-06 Thread Kenneth Porter
On 12/6/2023 5:19 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: can't procmail use X-Spam-Flag ? I think the reason I run it twice is that the mimedefang invocation doesn't have access to personal Bayes data. When it runs, it's not yet known what user(s) the mail is destined for.

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-06 Thread Benny Pedersen
Kenneth Porter skrev den 2023-12-06 08:25: On 12/5/2023 10:57 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: mimedefang does not use spamd, you only need either spamassassin only with spamd or mimedefang with spamassassin not running spamd It's a small server so I can afford to run SA twice, once at the MTA

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-06 Thread Martin Gregorie
rver so I can afford to run SA twice, once at the MTA > level through mimedefang (which can potentially reject egregious > spam), > and once during delivery via procmail, which invokes spamc. > > I'm run ing the XFCE spin of Redhat Linux and found  vmlinuz-6.6.2-101.fc38.x86_64's

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-06 Thread giovanni
On 12/6/23 08:25, Kenneth Porter wrote: On 12/5/2023 10:57 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: mimedefang does not use spamd, you only need either spamassassin only with spamd or mimedefang with spamassassin not running spamd It's a small server so I can afford to run SA twice, once at the MTA level

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-05 Thread Kenneth Porter
On 12/5/2023 10:57 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: mimedefang does not use spamd, you only need either spamassassin only with spamd or mimedefang with spamassassin not running spamd It's a small server so I can afford to run SA twice, once at the MTA level through mimedefang (which can potentially

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
Kenneth Porter skrev den 2023-12-06 00:29: After installing the package, I found I needed to manually restart spamd and also mimedefang with: # systemctl restart spamassassin # systemctl restart mimedefang After that I saw errors from my nightly sa-learn jobs about a missing HashCash module

Re: Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-05 Thread Kenneth Porter
After installing the package, I found I needed to manually restart spamd and also mimedefang with: # systemctl restart spamassassin # systemctl restart mimedefang After that I saw errors from my nightly sa-learn jobs about a missing HashCash module. I checked for a .rpmnew file in /etc/mail

Re: sa-learn on an Exchange public folder

2023-12-05 Thread jahlives
Does anything "speak" against just fetching the message from said folder (ex getmail or fetchmail) and feed them to sa-learn? At least for getmail one can define a filter section which then calls sa-learn and give it the message for learning. I use a getmail config like this [retri

Re: sa-learn on an Exchange public folder

2023-12-04 Thread Bill Cole
On 2023-12-03 at 14:58:36 UTC-0500 (Sun, 3 Dec 2023 20:58:36 +0100) Emmanuel Seyman is rumored to have said: Hello all. I've set up SA at $WORK and now want to train the bayesian classifier. To that end, a public folder has been setup on our Exchange server and I want to run sa-learn on any

Re: sa-learn on an Exchange public folder

2023-12-04 Thread Benny Pedersen
Kris Deugau skrev den 2023-12-04 18:23: Fair warning, I gave up on using IMAP for feeding Bayes locally because it started to glitch out and fail for no reason I could see. But the mailboxes I'm learning from are maildir on a *nix platform, not whatever black box Exchange hides things in.

Re: sa-learn on an Exchange public folder

2023-12-04 Thread Kris Deugau
Emmanuel Seyman wrote: Hello all. I've set up SA at $WORK and now want to train the bayesian classifier. To that end, a public folder has been setup on our Exchange server and I want to run sa-learn on any email that is transferred to it. I'm guessing this is a popular thing to do

Building Red Hat Rawhide SA 4.0.0 package for RHEL/CentOS 7

2023-12-03 Thread Kenneth Porter
I want to relate my experience in packaging the latest RH RPM for CentOS 7: I first checked out the package sources from Fedora. This is the spec file and patches but not the SA tarballs. I already have a regular user for building packages and have run rpmdev-setuptree to create a packaging

sa-learn on an Exchange public folder

2023-12-03 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hello all. I've set up SA at $WORK and now want to train the bayesian classifier. To that end, a public folder has been setup on our Exchange server and I want to run sa-learn on any email that is transferred to it. I'm guessing this is a popular thing to do and that there would already

Re: Stealth HREF= (missed by SA)

2023-09-20 Thread Joe Wein via users
On Friday, September 15, 2023 15:34, Giovanni wrote: On 9/14/23 17:01, Pedro David Marco wrote: The same happens with other HTML tags... do you have a spample to share (public or privately) ? I am happy to confirm that revision 1912414 is working great and fixes the problem. Grazie

Re: Stealth HREF= (missed by SA)

2023-09-17 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023, Bill Cole wrote: On 2023-09-14 at 11:01:37 UTC-0400 (Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:01:37 + (UTC)) Pedro David Marco via users is rumored to have said: The same happens with other HTML tags... <= DEFANGED_IMG  src=  can be replaced with <= DEFANGED_IMG xyz/src= virtually

Re: Stealth HREF= (missed by SA)

2023-09-15 Thread Bill Cole
esponse from developers. https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=8186 FWIW, I've thought about it a bit... We're seeing literally millions of phishing spams from Tencent VMs in Singapore targeting mostly Amazon Japan that are getting around SA checks because of this issue. Wow. I d

Re: Stealth HREF= (missed by SA)

2023-09-15 Thread giova...@paclan.it
about it a bit... > >> We're seeing literally millions of phishing spams from Tencent VMs in Singapore targeting mostly Amazon Japan that are getting around SA checks because of this issue. > > Wow. I didn't expect that this was that big of a tactic. > >> I am wonde

Re: Stealth HREF= (missed by SA)

2023-09-14 Thread Pedro David Marco via users
; https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=8186 > > FWIW, I've thought about it a bit... > >> We're seeing literally millions of phishing spams from Tencent VMs in >> Singapore targeting mostly Amazon Japan that are getting around SA checks >> because of this issu

Re: Stealth HREF= (missed by SA)

2023-09-14 Thread giovanni
FWIW, I've thought about it a bit... We're seeing literally millions of phishing spams from Tencent VMs in Singapore targeting mostly Amazon Japan that are getting around SA checks because of this issue. Wow. I didn't expect that this was that big of a tactic. I am wondering how many

Re: Stealth HREF= (missed by SA)

2023-09-14 Thread Bill Cole
... We're seeing literally millions of phishing spams from Tencent VMs in Singapore targeting mostly Amazon Japan that are getting around SA checks because of this issue. Wow. I didn't expect that this was that big of a tactic. I am wondering how many other users are seeing this problem which

Re: Stealth HREF= (missed by SA)

2023-09-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
Joe Wein via users skrev den 2023-09-14 10:37: This means even if the bad site is listed on domain RBLs (SURBL, Spamhaus or URIBL), the mail is not tagged for that. should sa maybe begin using HtmlTidi https://metacpan.org/dist/Perl-Tidy/view/lib/Perl/Tidy.pod i have samples with src

Stealth HREF= (missed by SA)

2023-09-14 Thread Joe Wein via users
I filed a bug for this issue on Bugzilla (#8186) but so far no response from developers. https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=8186 We're seeing literally millions of phishing spams from Tencent VMs in Singapore targeting mostly Amazon Japan that are getting around SA checks

Re: SA and UTF-8 Filename Attachments

2023-08-03 Thread Bill Cole
On 2023-08-03 at 12:21:11 UTC-0400 (Thu, 3 Aug 2023 12:21:11 -0400) Jared Hall is rumored to have said: SA v3.4.6: Consider an Email with a UTF-8 attachment name: ®Payroll_stubs.Htm defined by the MIME header: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename*0*=utf-8''%C2%AEPayroll_stubs.Htm

SA and UTF-8 Filename Attachments

2023-08-03 Thread Jared Hall
SA v3.4.6: Consider an Email with a UTF-8 attachment name: ®Payroll_stubs.Htm defined by the MIME header: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename*0*=utf-8''%C2%AEPayroll_stubs.Htm A PERL unicode-formatted rule fails: mimeheader __JR_EXPLOIT_ATT_UTF        Content-Disposition =~ /(\xC2

RE: spamd runs as root on Fedora Server 38 ?! - was Re: Newb on sa-learn - didn't get what I expected as a response...

2023-07-10 Thread Marc
> > I should probably add that I personally don't do per-user config because > of the enlarged attack surface it presents and small marginal value, but > that's guided by local details. I work with systems owned by others > where other choices were made for very sound reasons and they have not >

Re: spamd runs as root on Fedora Server 38 ?! - was Re: Newb on sa-learn - didn't get what I expected as a response...

2023-07-09 Thread Bill Cole
' for their installations is beyond the scope of the SA project per se, and the specific packagers should be consulted if you need an explanation of their choices. If you want spamd to be able to access the per-user preferences and databases for AWL/TxRep and/or Bayes of real system users, spamd must

Re: spamd runs as root on Fedora Server 38 ?! - was Re: Newb on sa-learn - didn't get what I expected as a response...

2023-07-07 Thread Kenneth Porter
Check the systemd unit file. It should set the user the service runs as.

Re: Newb on sa-learn - didn't get what I expected as a response...

2023-07-07 Thread Richard Troy
On Fri, 7 Jul 2023, Reindl Harald wrote: OF COURSE! For me, THE key questions have to do with the learning aspect (and maybe logging): What's the directory that, for example, sa-learn has to write into? ... Again, pointers would be nice - it's not like I was planning to spend my day

Re: Newb on sa-learn - didn't get what I expected as a response...

2023-07-07 Thread Richard Troy
the daemnon is running with you don't want an exploit happening somewhere in teh filter chain modify your binaries/scripts OF COURSE! For me, THE key questions have to do with the learning aspect (and maybe logging): What's the directory that, for example, sa-learn has to write

spamd runs as root on Fedora Server 38 ?! - was Re: Newb on sa-learn - didn't get what I expected as a response...

2023-07-07 Thread Richard Troy
Hi All, I changed the subject line to hopefully get some insight from a wider audience regarding this situation that Reindl uncovered: It started here: It appears that it IS running as root?! OR maybe as "sa-milt" ... As root I got this: # ps auxwww | grep spamd root  

Re: Newb on sa-learn - didn't get what I expected as a response...

2023-07-07 Thread Richard Troy
It appears that it IS running as root?! OR maybe as "sa-milt" ... As root I got this: # ps auxwww | grep spamd root  100805  0.0  0.3 158208 121164 ?   Ss   00:37   0:05 /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/bin/spamd -c -m5 -H --razor-home-dir=/var/lib/razor/ --razor-log-file=

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