Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Luis E. Muñoz
On 22 Sep 2017, at 10:43, John Hardin wrote: He was only proposing the subject. Essentially it sounds like a subjectBL service. In the same message he said "The next level would be sending the message headers and eventually - the full message." Best regards -lem

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Luis E. Muñoz
Mark, This certainly does not add confidence in the "techniques no one else is using": ``` ⋮ supp...@junkemailfilter.com host darwin.ctyme.com [184.105.182.171] SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: 550-FAKE-REJECT - TLD-FROM [click] is blocked - X=darwin ⋮ ```

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 22.09.2017 19:43, John Hardin wrote: > He was only proposing the subject. Essentially it sounds like a > subjectBL service. As you since realised, Marc suggested full emails. Personally, I'd not share even subject lines. I'm trying to make it as difficult as possible for people to glance at

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Luis E. Muñoz wrote: On 22 Sep 2017, at 10:43, John Hardin wrote: He was only proposing the subject. Essentially it sounds like a subjectBL service. In the same message he said "The next level would be sending the message headers and eventually - the full message."

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Ralph Seichter wrote: On 22.09.2017 17:40, Marc Perkel wrote: > If there is interest my initial demo test will be just stuffing the > subject line into a IP/port and returning a number where positive is > spam and negative is

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:43:57 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: > > Are you suggesting people send you their email for scanning? If so, > > I'd say nobody in their right mind should be interested, for > > obvious reasons of privacy. It would also be illegal where I live. > He

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Ralph Seichter wrote: On 22.09.2017 17:40, Marc Perkel wrote: If there is interest my initial demo test will be just stuffing the subject line into a IP/port and returning a number where positive is spam and negative is ham. This would just be a proof of concept. The

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 08:40:50 -0700 Marc Perkel wrote: > The next level would be sending the message headers and eventually - > the full message. Why would anyone do that as opposed to just purchasing your commercial spam filtering service? If someone wants to

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 22.09.2017 17:40, Marc Perkel wrote: > If there is interest my initial demo test will be just stuffing the > subject line into a IP/port and returning a number where positive is > spam and negative is ham. This would just be a proof of concept. > > The next level would be sending the message

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
What type of rule is it? A new kind based on subject? You could treat it like an rbl that sends the subject and returns a dns response. You would need plugin changes to send the subject which is not hard. And a dns server that performs logic from a dns query but if that's your thought, I

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread David Jones
On 09/22/2017 11:46 AM, Marc Perkel wrote: I think people are misunderstanding. It's not a spamd service. It's basically another rule you would add to your config. I think I need to do it first and then talk about it. I think you are misunderstanding them. They are trying to tell you a

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Marc Perkel
I think people are misunderstanding. It's not a spamd service. It's basically another rule you would add to your config. I think I need to do it first and then talk about it. On 09/22/17 09:33, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: It's very feasible but it's a blurry off topic issue to even discuss here

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
It's very feasible but it's a blurry off topic issue to even discuss here for a commercial service. At worst you just make yourself a standard mx of record filter system provider. If you want a "plugin" you just offer spamd service restricted by ip address with ssl. Perhaps you are over

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 08:40 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: > This is something I'm thinking about doing - providing a service > that integrates into SA as a plug in and communicates with my servers > to return a useful score enhancer. > > If there is interest my initial demo test will be just stuffing

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Marc Perkel
Probably both. Not sure. Just trying to see if it's feasible. On 09/22/17 09:12, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Are you discussing a free or a commercial service? Regards, KAM On September 22, 2017 11:40:50 AM EDT, Marc Perkel wrote: This is something I'm thinking

Re: Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Are you discussing a free or a commercial service? Regards, KAM On September 22, 2017 11:40:50 AM EDT, Marc Perkel wrote: >This is something I'm thinking about doing - providing a service that >integrates into SA as a plug in and communicates with my servers to

Would anyone be interested in a SA enhancing service?

2017-09-22 Thread Marc Perkel
This is something I'm thinking about doing - providing a service that integrates into SA as a plug in and communicates with my servers to return a useful score enhancer. If there is interest my initial demo test will be just stuffing the subject line into a IP/port and returning a number