Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-04-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, April 16, 2008 11:13, Daniel Zaugg wrote: Wow ! Aren't you guys proud to be postmasters ! my cat turn off my mailserver when it makes to much noice for his sleep :) For me being a postmaster clearly is a chore (one of many) to wich I devote an absolute minimum amount of my precious

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel Zaugg
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Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-04-16 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 11:13:04 Daniel Zaugg wrote: Wow ! Aren't you guys proud to be postmasters ! no. the real one got fired. hehe -- best regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen Arvid Ephraim Picciani

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-04-16 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:13 AM, Daniel Zaugg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Rudd wrote: the error is ignored since it has no practical consequence (except maybe in some unread log file) Unread/unchecked only by half-assed postmasters who aren't worth their salt, and should

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-26 Thread Dave Funk
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, John Rudd wrote: Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:50 PM, John Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A postmaster who doesn't check their logs in any fashion deserves whatever they get. Including having all of the spam sail through unchecked. Or having their

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-26 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Dave Funk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, John Rudd wrote: Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:50 PM, John Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A postmaster who doesn't check their logs in any fashion deserves whatever they get.

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-26 Thread mouss
John Rudd wrote: Aaron Wolfe wrote: I think you're mistaken. Generating all hits does not penalize a good postmaster, because no good postmaster will be using an RBL that's been dead for over a year. That's only specific to this case. I'm talking about from day 1 of the RBL going dark.

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-26 Thread nws.charlie
. Strange, since I mentioned that in my post. Now I am called a mail admin wannabe etc? To put it simply: WTF? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/relays.ordb.org-returning-positive-for-everything--tp16286049p16300810.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-26 Thread Jim Flanagan
Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Dave Funk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, John Rudd wrote: Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:50 PM, John Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A postmaster who doesn't check their logs in any

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-26 Thread mouss
nws.charlie wrote: I guess I'm one of the mail admin wannabe's... not by choice, but by inheritance. It was turned over to me with almost zero training or experience. :( I found the initial posts clear, and had to wonder at some of the replies myself! Just wanted to say thanks for posting the

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-26 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:10 PM, mouss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nws.charlie wrote: I guess I'm one of the mail admin wannabe's... not by choice, but by inheritance. It was turned over to me with almost zero training or experience. :( I found the initial posts clear, and had to wonder

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-26 Thread M. Ehlert
a checkbox which says: [x] Use DNSBL (DNS blacklist hole) There was no mention that Merak used relay.ordb.org anywhere in the configuration. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/relays.ordb.org-returning-positive-for-everything--tp16286049p16316213.html Sent from the SpamAssassin

relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread Aaron Wolfe
It seems like relays.ordb.org (long dead) has started returning positive answers for *all* IPs. Today I've had several clients with old configs which still had this RBL in them suddenly start blocking everything. Is this a new thing? Maybe the maintainers were tired of all the queries.

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread Per Jessen
Aaron Wolfe wrote: It seems like relays.ordb.org (long dead) has started returning positive answers for *all* IPs. Today I've had several clients with old configs which still had this RBL in them suddenly start blocking everything. Is this a new thing? Maybe the maintainers were tired of

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread mouss
Aaron Wolfe wrote: It seems like relays.ordb.org (long dead) has started returning positive answers for *all* IPs. Today I've had several clients with old configs which still had this RBL in them suddenly start blocking everything. Is this a new thing? Maybe the maintainers were tired of all

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Wolfe wrote: It seems like relays.ordb.org (long dead) has started returning positive answers for *all* IPs. Today I've had several clients with old configs which still had this RBL in them suddenly start

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread Per Jessen
Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Wolfe wrote: It seems like relays.ordb.org (long dead) has started returning positive answers for *all* IPs. Today I've had several clients with old configs which still had this RBL in

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread ajx
up the sleeping beauty... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/relays.ordb.org-returning-positive-for-everything--tp16286049p16291046.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread mouss
ajx wrote: It seems your logic is fundamentally flawed for several reasons. By returning false positives, you're breaking mail gateways that use this once useful service. On the contrary, the best way would be to simply return a DNS host not found error or a connection refused message when a

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, March 25, 2008 20:01, Aaron Wolfe wrote: It seems like relays.ordb.org (long dead) has started returning positive answers for *all* IPs. Today I've had several clients with old configs which still had this RBL in them suddenly start blocking everything. Is this a new thing? Maybe

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread John Rudd
mouss wrote: ajx wrote: It seems your logic is fundamentally flawed for several reasons. By returning false positives, you're breaking mail gateways that use this once useful service. On the contrary, the best way would be to simply return a DNS host not found error or a connection refused

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:50 PM, John Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mouss wrote: ajx wrote: It seems your logic is fundamentally flawed for several reasons. By returning false positives, you're breaking mail gateways that use this once useful service. On the contrary, the best

Re: relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

2008-03-25 Thread John Rudd
Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:50 PM, John Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mouss wrote: ajx wrote: It seems your logic is fundamentally flawed for several reasons. By returning false positives, you're breaking mail gateways that use this once useful service. On the