Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
On 1/19/11 2:10 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:37:07 +0100 Rolf E. Sonneveldr.e.sonnev...@sonnection.nl wrote: I agree with you, looking at my own personal situation. However, many mail admins (and maybe you too) are responsible for the e-mail handling of many

Re: NOW: spamass-milter postfix Debian (WAS: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 18.01.2011 20:41, schrieb J4: On 01/18/2011 07:54 PM, J4 wrote: On 01/18/2011 06:51 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: * J4 ju...@klunky.co.uk: This is pretty much what I would like to achieve, the reason I decided not to use Dovecot Sieve (apart from me being incapable of setting it.

Re: Need Volunteers for Ham Trap

2011-01-19 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 4:59:05 AM, Warren Jr. wrote: * Yes, we cannot be 100% sure our opt-in was only for that particular site and not their partners. But in any case automatic ham trapped mail will be only the mail branded by the subscribed provider, because that is the only mail we

Re: Need Volunteers for Ham Trap

2011-01-19 Thread Warren Togami Jr.
On 01/18/2011 11:49 PM, Jeff Chan wrote: On Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 4:59:05 AM, Warren Jr. wrote: * Yes, we cannot be 100% sure our opt-in was only for that particular site and not their partners. But in any case automatic ham trapped mail will be only the mail branded by the subscribed

Bayes expiration

2011-01-19 Thread Helmut Schneider
Hi, I set use_bayes 1 bayes_auto_learn1 bayes_expiry_max_db_size30 bayes_auto_expire 1 bayes_store_module Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore::SQL bayes_sql_dsn

Re: Bayes expiration

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 1/19/11 6:04 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: bayes_auto_expire 1 disable auto expire and run a cronjob. make sure you run the cronjob for each user in bayes. mysql mail -AssBbe 'select username from bayes_vars' -- Michael Scheidell, CTO o: 561-999-5000 d: 561-948-2259

Re: Bayes expiration

2011-01-19 Thread Helmut Schneider
Michael Scheidell wrote: On 1/19/11 6:04 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: bayes_auto_expire 1 disable auto expire and run a cronjob. OK...but..why? :) make sure you run the cronjob for each user in bayes. The database ist global...

Re: Bayes expiration

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 1/19/11 7:56 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: Michael Scheidell wrote: On 1/19/11 6:04 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: bayes_auto_expire 1 disable auto expire and run a cronjob. OK...but..why? :) to fix your problem. plus auto expire can seriously degrade the performance

Re: Bayes expiration

2011-01-19 Thread Helmut Schneider
Michael Scheidell wrote: On 1/19/11 7:56 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: Michael Scheidell wrote: On 1/19/11 6:04 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: bayes_auto_expire 1 disable auto expire and run a cronjob. OK...but..why? :) to fix your problem.

Re: Bayes expiration

2011-01-19 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 1/19/11 8:16 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: 1295442708, Last: 1295442672, atime: 0, count: 0, newdelta: 0, ratio: 0, period: 43200 or, it has been trying (automatically) for a while. remove auto expire (at least) change to this also bayes_store_module Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore::MySQL

Re: Bayes expiration

2011-01-19 Thread RW
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:16:09 + (UTC) Helmut Schneider jumpe...@gmx.de wrote: Michael Scheidell wrote: On 1/19/11 7:56 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: Michael Scheidell wrote: On 1/19/11 6:04 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: bayes_auto_expire 1 disable

Re: Bayes expiration

2011-01-19 Thread Helmut Schneider
Michael Scheidell wrote: On 1/19/11 8:16 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: 1295442708, Last: 1295442672, atime: 0, count: 0, newdelta: 0, ratio: 0, period: 43200 or, it has been trying (automatically) for a while. remove auto expire (at least) done. change to this also bayes_store_module

Re: Bayes expiration

2011-01-19 Thread Helmut Schneider
RW wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:16:09 + (UTC) Helmut Schneider jumpe...@gmx.de wrote: Michael Scheidell wrote: On 1/19/11 7:56 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: Michael Scheidell wrote: On 1/19/11 6:04 AM, Helmut Schneider wrote: bayes_auto_expire

Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Lee Dilkie
I recently gave up on greylisting after using it for years as well. Two reasons really, one was the complaints from users (and I found that they often asked folks to send mail to me twice to try and get mail to work better and that was just embarrassing). The second was that I've found that the

Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:56:47 -0500 Lee Dilkie l...@dilkie.com wrote: The second was that I've found that the other spam-catching filtering is doing a much better job than it was years ago and turning off greylisting didn't adversely affect the amount of spam that got through. That's possibly

Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Lee Dilkie
On 1/19/2011 10:02 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:56:47 -0500 Lee Dilkie l...@dilkie.com wrote: The second was that I've found that the other spam-catching filtering is doing a much better job than it was years ago and turning off greylisting didn't adversely affect the

Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Lee Dilkie wrote: Don't get me wrong, I liked GL but there are a number of big ISPs that have quite long retry timeouts (for some reason, sympatico comes to mind) and it got to be too annoying. ...and when you encounter a big ISP that does this, do you notify their

Re: Suspicious URL:Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Daniel McDonald
On 1/19/11 10:17 AM, John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Lee Dilkie wrote: Don't get me wrong, I liked GL but there are a number of big ISPs that have quite long retry timeouts (for some reason, sympatico comes to mind) and it got to be too annoying. ...and when

Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Matt
The legitimate mail that passes through my mail server comes from hosts / networks I might not hear from again for months, by which time I have to potentially wait 24 hours for the greylisting / mail server to try again. I run greylisting on an email server with several thousand email

SpamAssassin Not Performing Task

2011-01-19 Thread jrnelli
This may not be the best place to ask about this issue, but I figure I have to start somewhere and maybe someone here has encountered it. My problem is that SpamAssassin appears to not be performing the task of scanning my incoming mail any longer (appears to have stopped recently). My domain

Re: Suspicious URL:Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Henrik K
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:14:29AM -0600, Daniel McDonald wrote: On 1/19/11 10:17 AM, John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Lee Dilkie wrote: Don't get me wrong, I liked GL but there are a number of big ISPs that have quite long retry timeouts (for some reason,

Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 1/19/2011 9:25 AM, Matt wrote: The legitimate mail that passes through my mail server comes from hosts / networks I might not hear from again for months, by which time I have to potentially wait 24 hours for the greylisting / mail server to try again. I run greylisting on an email server

Re: SpamAssassin Not Performing Task

2011-01-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 1/19/2011 9:27 AM, jrnelli wrote: This may not be the best place to ask about this issue, but I figure I have to start somewhere and maybe someone here has encountered it. My problem is that SpamAssassin appears to not be performing the task of scanning my incoming mail any longer (appears

Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Matt
The legitimate mail that passes through my mail server comes from hosts / networks I might not hear from again for months, by which time I have to potentially wait 24 hours for the greylisting / mail server to try again. I run greylisting on an email server with several thousand email

Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 1/19/2011 8:06 AM, Lee Dilkie wrote: On 1/19/2011 10:02 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:56:47 -0500 Lee Dilkiel...@dilkie.com wrote: The second was that I've found that the other spam-catching filtering is doing a much better job than it was years ago and turning off

Re: Suspicious URL:Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Daniel McDonald wrote: On 1/19/11 10:17 AM, John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Lee Dilkie wrote: Don't get me wrong, I liked GL but there are a number of big ISPs that have quite long retry timeouts (for some reason, sympatico comes to mind) and

Re: Suspicious URL:Re: Suspicious URL:Re: Greylisting delay (was Re: Q about short-circuit over ruling blacklisting rule)

2011-01-19 Thread Daniel McDonald
On 1/19/11 2:35 PM, John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Daniel McDonald wrote: On 1/19/11 10:17 AM, John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Lee Dilkie wrote: Don't get me wrong, I liked GL but there are a number of big ISPs that have quite

Re: SpamAssassin Not Performing Task

2011-01-19 Thread Shane Williams
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, jrnelli wrote: You'll see from the SpamAssassin enabling above, the following tags are included: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on cloud-dimenoc.webhostdns.info X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=5.1 required=2.5