Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread Arthur Dent
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:22 -0800, tonjg wrote: I've got a feeling that the spamassassin on my machine is improving in the way it recognises spam but I'd like to be sure it's not just my imagination. I did my first manual bayes learn about 2 weeks ago using 200 spams and 200 hams, the process

Re: Increase spamassassin -r verbosity?

2010-02-17 Thread Kārlis Repsons
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 18:18:01 Mark Martinec wrote: I'd appreciate a pointer how should spamassassin -r be made more verbose, so that it'd report also messages with priority info, but not dbg... spamassassin --debug area=noall -r msg Sorry, wrong syntax, should be:

spamd: Can't locate object method check_for_rdns_helo_mismatch

2010-02-17 Thread Daniel Lemke
I've got several warnings during execution of spamd on win32. For every incoming mail the same warning pops up, saying: Wed Feb 17 10:42:46 2010 [4988] warn: rules: failed to run FAKE_HELO_EXCITE test, skipping: Wed Feb 17 10:42:46 2010 [4988] warn: (Can't locate object method

Re: MTX - How does it stop spam?

2010-02-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 02/16, Marc Perkel wrote: I'm still waiting for RDNS to be widely adopted enough to penalize for that. There is a lot of good email that comes from misconfigured servers. If we can't get the world to do good RDNS I don't think we can get the world to do some other more complex

Re: Increase spamassassin -r verbosity?

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Martinec
On Wednesday February 17 2010 09:50:24 Kārlis Repsons wrote: spamassassin --debug info -r msg Does the thing, but with one trouble: those info-level messages appear to be directed through stderr! Can they be directed through stdout, while warning messages through stderr? That's the best we

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Alexandre Chapellon wrote: I am an ISP with over 5 users (wich is not that big for an isp) permannently connected. I can hardly imagine to manage the poilicies of all my customer, and I know they would really don't like it. What if your ISP told you what you got to do, where to go and to

Re: spamd: Can't locate object method check_for_rdns_helo_mismatch

2010-02-17 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 11:24 +0100, Daniel Lemke wrote: I’ve got several warnings during execution of spamd on win32. For every incoming mail the same warning pops up, saying: Wed Feb 17 10:42:46 2010 [4988] warn: rules: failed to run FAKE_HELO_EXCITE test, skipping: Wed Feb 17 10:42:46 2010

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Martinec
Alexandre Chapellon wrote: Not public blacklists but for example Yahoo!'s servers spends most of its days replying defered temporarily due user complaints' o our relays. Start building a good reputation at Yahoo for your clean outgoing mail: - allocate a new IP address for your new 'clean'

Re: Increase spamassassin -r verbosity?

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Heydlauf
Hi K??rlis, On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:50:24AM +, K??rlis Repsons wrote: On Tuesday 16 February 2010 18:18:01 Mark Martinec wrote: ... spamassassin --debug info -r msg ... Does the thing, but with one trouble: those info-level messages appear to be directed through stderr! Can they be

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
Mikael Syska wrote: [r...@freebsd /]# date -r 1266318121 Tue Feb 16 12:02:01 CET 2010 newsest atime should tell you when it last learned from a message. thanks for your response, I ran sa-learn --dump magic: 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version 0.000

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
RW-15 wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:29:38 +0100 Mikael Syska mik...@syska.dk wrote: Watching nham, nspam counts is more meaningful. my nspam and nham counts look the same as they were two weeks ago without change, which makes me think that bayes isn't learning... -- View this message in

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread Arthur Dent
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 04:16 -0800, tonjg wrote: Mikael Syska wrote: [r...@freebsd /]# date -r 1266318121 Tue Feb 16 12:02:01 CET 2010 newsest atime should tell you when it last learned from a message. thanks for your response, I ran sa-learn --dump magic: 0.000 0

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
RW-15 wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:29:38 +0100 Mikael Syska mik...@syska.dk wrote: Watching nham, nspam counts is more meaningful. On 17.02.10 04:18, tonjg wrote: my nspam and nham counts look the same as they were two weeks ago without change, which makes me think that bayes isn't

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 17:11 -1000, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: Yes but most of the time (here) undeliverable mails are undeliverable because of recipient over quota, wrong mx records on dst domain or things like this... I can explain this to my customer. By cons I cannot tell him we silently

AW: [SpamAssassin] Re: spamd: Can't locate object method check_for_rdns_helo_mismatch

2010-02-17 Thread Daniel Lemke
Thank you, that solved it. I downloaded the rules tarball and now it's working fine. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Karsten Bräckelmann [mailto:guent...@rudersport.de] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2010 11:55 An: users@spamassassin.apache.org Betreff: [SpamAssassin] Re: spamd: Can't

Re: Increase spamassassin -r verbosity?

2010-02-17 Thread Kārlis Repsons
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 12:09:50 Frank Heydlauf wrote: Hi K??rlis, On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:50:24AM +, K??rlis Repsons wrote: On Tuesday 16 February 2010 18:18:01 Mark Martinec wrote: ... spamassassin --debug info -r msg ... Does the thing, but with one trouble:

Re: getting different SA scores depending on which outgoing smtp is used, though same sender IP and SA

2010-02-17 Thread RW
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:19:03 + Tom t...@ecnow.co.uk wrote: On 17/02/10 00:35, RW wrote: It doesn't know it's internal because you haven't set your internal network to include your own IP address. Generally local mail shouldn't go through SA so that's not an issue.

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread DAve
Alexandre, To answer your first question, yes we filter outbound mail. We were once in the same position as you are now and corrected the problem successfully. All the advice given is good and I can attest that it will work. We first created a separate outbound service with authenticated smtps

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
Arthur Dent-6 wrote: Try # date -d @1266390928 ah yes thanks Arthur that worked: [r...@home admin]# date -d @1266390928 Wed Feb 17 07:15:28 GMT 2010 [r...@home admin]# -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27623785.html Sent from the

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: you may have autolearn plugin not active. What does X-Spam-Status header in your mail say? it says: X-Spam-Score: 4.463 () BAYES_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 172.16.1.36 I don't know

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Kris Deugau
Mark Martinec wrote: SA already has some awareness of mail flow direction (inbound vs. outbound) through its trusted_networks/internal_networks/msa_networks settings, and recognizes authentication signs in Received header fields, as well as its whitelist_bounce_relays awareness, so it should be

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Kris Deugau
Charles Gregory wrote: ... but any legitimate mail that is blocked will result in their MUA (Outlook) displaying an error message. This is GOOD. :) My experience has been that Outlook in particular (not Outlook Express or its descendant Windows (Live) Mail) does NOT in fact display SMTP

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Heydlauf
Hi Alexandre, On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:44:35AM -1000, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: I am an ISP with over 5 users (wich is not that big for an isp) permannently connected. FYI: similar scale here. I can hardly imagine to manage the poilicies of all my customer, and I know they would

Re: SA on outgoing SMTP

2010-02-17 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Kris Deugau wrote: My experience has been that Outlook in particular (not Outlook Express or its descendant Windows (Live) Mail) does NOT in fact display SMTP error messages exactly as the server spits them out. :( Sorry. You've heard that old phrase goes without saying?

Most hilarious spam ever

2010-02-17 Thread Igor Chudov
This is a very funny spam, takes the title of dumbest spam of Feb 2010. http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/spam010.txt The person who sent it, probably thinks that he is the best phister in the world. i

Re: Most hilarious spam ever

2010-02-17 Thread Bowie Bailey
Igor Chudov wrote: This is a very funny spam, takes the title of dumbest spam of Feb 2010. http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/spam010.txt The person who sent it, probably thinks that he is the best phister in the world. i The sad thing is that some people are going to fall for this...

Re: Most hilarious spam ever

2010-02-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 17 February 2010, Igor Chudov wrote: This is a very funny spam, takes the title of dumbest spam of Feb 2010. http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/spam010.txt The person who sent it, probably thinks that he is the best phister in the world. i Yeah I got one of those last week, and it

Re: Most hilarious spam ever

2010-02-17 Thread RW
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:31:34 -0600 Igor Chudov i...@chudov.com wrote: This is a very funny spam, takes the title of dumbest spam of Feb 2010. http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/spam010.txt The person who sent it, probably thinks that he is the best phister in the world. It seems to be a

Is this message a bug or feature?

2010-02-17 Thread Robert Nicholson
Use of uninitialized value in sprintf at /home/elastica/SALOCAL-3.3.0/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/Logger.pm line 241. at /home/elastica/SALOCAL-3.3.0/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/Logger.pm line 241 Mail::SpamAssassin::Logger::_log(3, 'dcc: dccifd is not

Re: Is this message a bug or feature?

2010-02-17 Thread Robert Nicholson
From this http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/spamassassin/commits/148538 it looks like it was a bug how can I configure dccifd is not available instead of SA trying to figure it out the long way? On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:06 PM, Robert Nicholson wrote: Use of uninitialized value in sprintf