Re: Semi Off-topic: VFEMail destroyed

2019-02-16 Thread David Niklas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 10:50:58 -0700 Grant Taylor wrote: > On 2/16/19 8:50 AM, David Niklas wrote: > > My context was not that email servers were so unique to the internet > > > that there is only one in the world, rather that they were > > >

Re: Semi Off-topic: VFEMail destroyed

2019-02-16 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 2/16/2019 12:50 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: > > I also know for a fact that it would be EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, if not > actually impossible, for the same type of attack to happen to Gmail. > Between the infrastructure, number and type of backups, and > monitoring, such an attack would be EXTREMELY

Re: Semi Off-topic: VFEMail destroyed

2019-02-16 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/16/19 8:50 AM, David Niklas wrote: My context was not that email servers were so unique to the internet that there is only one in the world, rather that they were sufficiently few that a failure of one, such as VFEmail, is a major problem for a lot of people. That is a decidedly

Re: Semi Off-topic: VFEMail destroyed

2019-02-16 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Insider threat detection is a whole different ball of wax from backup and disaster recovery. However, there are numerous protocols to help for that threat. Specifically Principle of Least Privilege (POLP) and Separation of Duties. I consider this part and parcel of a Zero Trust network design.

Re: Semi Off-topic: VFEMail destroyed

2019-02-16 Thread David Niklas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 02:31:01 -0700 Grant Taylor wrote: > On 2/15/19 7:57 PM, David Niklas wrote: > > If I host my own mail it does not effect your mail if my computer and > > backups are destroyed. > > If I host my mail and yours and my computer

Re: Semi Off-topic: VFEMail destroyed

2019-02-16 Thread Pedro David Marco
how backups and off-site backups can help if the hacker is an insider? an angry-sysadmin-employee for example? :-( with full-knowledge of the backup system. PedroD 

Re: Semi Off-topic: VFEMail destroyed

2019-02-16 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/15/19 7:57 PM, David Niklas wrote: If I host my own mail it does not effect your mail if my computer and backups are destroyed. If I host my mail and yours and my computer and backups are destroyed we are both affected. Thus there is no single point of failure. I'm fairly certain that