Number of rules

2009-07-30 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
I'm using maia-mailguard with spamassassin 3.2.5. For the most part it seems to be working ok but I feel like too many messages are hitting BAYES_00 (roughly 3.7% of all messages) and BAYES_99 is only hitting about 1.7%. I have bayes autolearn on with ham being learned at -1.0 and spam

Re: Number of rules

2009-07-30 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Quoting RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com: Bear in mind that autolearning uses it's own version of the score that excludes whitelisting and Bayes, which means that very little ham will reach the -1 threshold unless you've added your own site-specific rules for identifying it. Yeah I knew that.

Re: Cant Post Message

2009-07-31 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Quoting twofers twof...@yahoo.com: I have a post I have tried several times over the last week to post to this forum and it never seems to get posted. I don't understand why?   There is nothing exotic about it, just text, a question and email header info I pasted.   Any idea whats up?

Re: Number of rules

2009-07-31 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Quoting LuKreme krem...@kreme.com: On Jul 30, 2009, at 18:12, Dennis B. Hopp dh...@coreps.com wrote: Yeah I knew that. I have a few negative scoring rules but not many (outside of what might be in the misc rules sets I have). What is a good threshold for ham then? 5.0 is the score SA

Re: Number of rules

2009-07-31 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Quoting RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:55:48 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de wrote: The default of 0.1. It's a default for a reason. But that *really* is not your problem. Your problem is with learning spam, not learning even more ham. Just as you

Re: Number of rules

2009-07-31 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Quoting John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: I cleared my maia statistics a couple of days ago. Since then BAYES_00 has triggered 4510 times, BAYES_99 2366 times and BAYES_50 1568 (all the other BAYES_XX are less then 1000 times). Do they all add

Re: Number of rules

2009-07-31 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Quoting Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 06:07 -0700, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: I cleared my maia statistics a couple of days ago. Since then BAYES_00 has triggered 4510 times, BAYES_99 2366 times and BAYES_50 1568

Re: Number of rules

2009-07-31 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Quoting Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de: If I'm reading that correctly less then 50% of mail is actually being filtered (seems like it should be higher then that). Those stats Actually, the numbers you gave for the last couple days are even lower. About one third, 15k out of 45k do

Re: mail slipping through

2009-08-19 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Quoting Gary Smith gary.sm...@holdstead.com: I've been having a pretty good hit rate on spam until recently (about two weeks). Two types of email have been coming through at a good rate. I'm receiving at least four per hour from the domains included below. I've also been training

Bogus Dollar Amounts

2010-02-24 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
I have been seeing a few spam mails slip past that talk about being able to get bogus dollar amounts. What I mean by that is it will give a large value in the e-mail but where there should be a comma it puts a period. I put an example of one of these messages at:

Re: Bogus Dollar Amounts

2010-02-24 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Nevermind...it was also hitting T_LOTS_OF_MONEY and once I expired old bayes tokens it no longer hit BAYES_00. Now I just have to figure out whats up with my bayes db. --Dennis Quoting Dennis B. Hopp dh...@coreps.com: I have been seeing a few spam mails slip past that talk about being

Re: Bogus Dollar Amounts

2010-02-24 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
It is common in many parts of the world to use a period instead of a comma as a digit group separator, and vice-versa for the decimal separator. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousands_separator#Digit_grouping I knew it was common in other parts of the world, but for some reason was

Re: Bogus Dollar Amounts

2010-02-25 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Quoting Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com: Dennis B. Hopp wrote on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:14:58 -0600: Obviously I have something going on with my bayes, but that's a separate issue Indeed. But it's an important issue. If it is that biased for other spam as well youa re better off

Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-10 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
We seem to be having a problem where clients that we interact with regularly are having their hotmail/gmail/yahoo accounts hijacked. We are receiving e-mails from their accounts that legitimately go through the correct servers (hotmail,yahoo, etc.) and so they get passed through our spam filters.

Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-10 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 20:22 +, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 13:37 -0600, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: Obviously we just have to tell the clients that they need to deal with the various e-mail providers, but is there an effective way that I can filter these messages out

Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-11 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
1) Spammers rotate sender addresses and hijacked account info more often than most of us change our underwear. An account *may* get reused; chances are it'll be months before it does, and the spammers will have rotated through hundreds or thousands of others - both phish-cracked and

Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-11 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Its not conditional, just using a meta rule and negating the Reply-to test in the meta: describe FORGED_HOTMAIL Hotmail with non-Hotmail Reply-to address header __FORGED_HM1 From ~= /\...@hotmail\.com/i header __FORGED_HM2 Reply-to ~= /\...@hotmail\.com/i meta

Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-11 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
I don't think the accounts were hijacked: the headers showed that the messages the OP posted were not sent from the domain hosting the mail accounts. It looked to me as if somebody has sold on lists of valid hotmail etc. accounts. I smell an inside job, or at least some careful

Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-11 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
...and I suppose the same would apply to social networks. I don't use either, so am somewhat clueless about what goodies are available if you can access their accounts. I have some free e-mail accounts that I use as throw away accounts. When a site just HAS to have a valid e-mail so you can

Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
describe FORGED_HOTMAIL Hotmail with non-Hotmail Reply-to address header __FORGED_HM1 From ~= /\...@hotmail\.com/i header __FORGED_HM2 Reply-to ~= /\...@hotmail\.com/i meta FORGED_HOTMAIL (__FORGED_HM1 !__FORGED_HM2) scoreFORGED_HOTMAIL 5.0 and write cookie

Re: [sa] Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
The problem with this is that the !__FORGED_YH2 matches when there is *NO* Reply-To header at all! You need something like this: header __FORGED_YH2 Reply-To =~ /\@([^y]|y[^a]|ya[^h]|yah[^o])/i meta FORGED_YAHOO (__FORGED_YH1 __FORGED_YH2) (remove the negation from the meta)

Re: [sa] Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 12:52 -0600, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: The problem with this is that the !__FORGED_YH2 matches when there is *NO* Reply-To header at all! You need something like this: header __FORGED_YH2 Reply-To =~ /\@([^y]|y[^a]|ya[^h]|yah[^o])/i meta FORGED_YAHOO

Re: My First Spam Mail Today

2010-03-12 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
My headers look like: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on mail.iamghost.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=6.3 tests=EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.3.0 * The message scored a 1.0 (score=1.0) but the

Re: Upgrading to SpamAssassin 3.3

2010-03-17 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 11:35 -0400, Kaleb Hosie wrote: Hello, I'm running SA 3.2.5 on CentOS 5.4 and I've noticed that a newer major release has been released. The server is currently in production so I'm a bit leery to upgrade. Do you feel that it is worth the upgrade to 3.3? Is there

KHOP_RCVD_TRUST

2010-03-26 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
I received the following e-mail http://pastebin.com/JXr9buxi It had a total score of 4.973 (blocked at 5). Among other rules it hit: KHOP_RCVD_TRUST=-1.75,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-0.5,SPF_PASS=-0.001 So is the KHOP_RCVD_TRUST score too low? Should I possibly consider making that -0.75 or

Re: KHOP_RCVD_TRUST

2010-03-26 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 11:35 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: On 3/26/10 10:41 AM, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: I received the following e-mail http://pastebin.com/JXr9buxi It had a total score of 4.973 (blocked at 5). Among other rules it hit: KHOP_RCVD_TRUST=-1.75,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED

AWL

2010-04-09 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
I have AWL enabled and it seems to be ok with helping out legitimate senders that occasionally send a spammy type message, but lately I have seen an increase where AWL is adding a negative score to a very blatant spam. So my questions are, do people feel AWL is worth having enabled? Is there

Re: AWL

2010-04-09 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Not that I'm aware of. Is the AWL score enough to prevent the messages from being marked as spam, or are you seeing the negative AWL score on messages that are marked as spam? It is normal for AWL to give negative scores to spam from time to time, but for the most part, it should not be

Re: Quarantine Management

2010-04-10 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
Quoting Alex mysqlstud...@gmail.com: Hi, Just wondering what other tools are out there that people like. I use postfix as my MTA right now, but am not completely opposed to using something else if necessary to use a specific quarantine system. Amavisd-new works well with postfix maia

Re: multiple instances

2010-04-16 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 10:08 -0700, Gary Smith wrote: I have a need to run several different instances of SA on a single box (in development). In production, we have 3 different SA environments (with 2+ servers each) that have different rule sets and specific routing rules determine which

Re: Auto Learn Spam

2010-04-28 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 11:53 -0400, Carlos Mennens wrote: I noticed when reviewing headers today that there was a section for 'autolearn=no' and was wondering what exactly does this mean and wouldn't autolearn be a good thing? I use Amavisd-new which calls out to SpamAssassin modules but I

Re: Auto Learn Spam

2010-04-28 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 12:38 -0400, Carlos Mennens wrote: I checked /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf just now and found only the following: required_hits 5 report_safe 0 rewrite_header Subject [SPAM] However I don't know if Amavisd-new is looking at local.cf because I show parameters