and violating the
terms of accreditation?
Could be any of those. Why does it matter? Suspended IPs aren't on the list.
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, the admin simply stops using that whitelist.
Lists that nobody uses don't get much business, so there's a direct
incentive for the whitelist operator to keep their list squeaky-clean.
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/for/, either.)
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?
There are many.
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it to
senderscorecertified@abuse.net or via the web form at
http://www.returnpath.net/support/ and our compliance team will take
appropriate action. Thanks!
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, and they
don't make value judgments.
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/ a SpamAssassin
user, and not just pretending?
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Charles Gregory wrote:
A more interesting comparison would be to see how much stuff is NOT
caught by spamhaus, but caught by your list or others :)
Right -- that gives you more of a sense of the value of a new list for a
system which already checks other lists.
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nothing disingenuous going on here.
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, and this 3rd party doesn't know
how to make their mail look less phishy.
(This isn't to say that the mail isn't spam, of course.)
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Marc Perkel wrote:
If someone is doing sender address
verification then they are filtering spam and those who filter spam are
not sending spam.
Do you have any stats on that?
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will constantly monitor
to make sure that any IP that's listed still deserves to be there.
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.
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.
http://www.dnsbl.com/ has some test results which aren't bad, though his ham
corpus does include some legitimate commercial email (which I know some
folks on this list would claim could never, ever, ever, ever not be spam.)
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making newbie
mistakes.
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basic
info, including an address to complain at if you're receiving spam from a
safelisted IP.
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accomplished
anything. It's been much more effective to simply stop whitelisting anyone who
is sending spam.
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for the support, but there's no point. Some of the folks on this list
are way too angry to ever do anything that might be helpful to others.
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the (formerly Habeas) Safe
list or the Certified list, we've made it extremely easy for you to tell the
people who operate those lists. Hint: insulting me on this mailing list has no
effect.
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.
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it
running smoothly, and securely.
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On Dec 4, 2009, at 12:24 PM, John Hardin wrote:
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, J.D. Falk wrote:
The current defaults for both the HABEAS and BSP rules were set long before
Return Path operated either service, so we have no clue where they came from
either.
J.D., may I suggest you open a SA
long to say it could never ever
happen, but I can say we're always watching.
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On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Charles Gregory wrote:
Which finally brings us back to the core questions which seem to go
unanswered:
They've all been answered many times, in other threads. Habeas wasn't involved
in emailreg.org, though. No connection at all.
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are important for this, too.
That being said, whitelists should be constantly policed to maintain their
reputation and trust levels.
Agreed.
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the
company, but it's impolite to speak ill of the dead.)
but no company is enlightened enough to realise this.
Heh.
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is not an ESP by any of the common definitions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP
(No wonder you're confused.)
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on a respected blacklist, so it's likely there's some unseen
feedback here as well.
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you're referring to, but it's safe to assume that
anyone still claiming to be on Bonded Sender is either mistaken or lying. It
was replaced by Return Path's Certified program in 2006.
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of this.
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to the appropriate team.
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On Jan 5, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
Thanks. A link like report spam in the top bar, alongside marketers
I'll pass all of this along to the appropriate folks.
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at the acknowledgements section of RFC 2142.)
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more of how
the real email ecosystem operates.
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On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Warren Togami wrote:
I wasn't planning on responding to this thread, but other positive responses
have annoyed me.
There were positive responses?
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: ease
of maintenance, survives forwarding, et cetera.
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On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:05 PM, ram wrote:
But for an ISP this is so painful.
That's why they do it by IP for ISPs (if you ask them, and get a
correctly-trained customer service agent.)
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On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Jeff Koch wrote:
The only large ISP that seems to have an FBL friendly approach is AOL. We've
been on their FBL for years. If anyone knows of another ISP with a friendly
FBL I'd love to know.
What's your definition of friendly in this context?
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with the rest.
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On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:15 AM, Justin Mason wrote:
he doesn't take FPs into account. this is a very serious problem with
the methodology.
+1
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semantics of the contents of that
header, but this certainly sounds possible.
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to achieve whatever it is you're
trying to do?
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On Jun 14, 2010, at 7:33 AM, J.D. Falk wrote:
On Jun 11, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
Also - I'd like to make a list of host names where email from celll phones
comes from. Does anyone have a list of domain name or host names where cell
phone email is sent from?
The US FCC
version
caught a whole bunch more spam for a while before the spammers caught on.
http://ceas.cc/2010/papers/Paper%2019.pdf
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On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
I've received a spam that his both HABEAS_ACCREDITED_SOI and
RCVD_IN_BSP_TRUSTED. I believe it's because both BSP and HABEAS were bought
by ReturnPath Inc.
However those two rules seems to be superflous to each other and while I
.
It's in progress (finally.) Once everything's ready, we'll also request
updates to the relevant descriptions in the rulesets.
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filtering.)
http://www.returnpath.net/blog/received/2011/03/x-expires/
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the leading purveyor of industry counter-rhetoric solutions
and Yahoo! do it too.
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favorite search engine should alleviate any
fears that either Neil or I are marketers.)
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unlikely) that you'd catch some non-spam
mail, too.
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caching old MX records for
months after they've been changed in the DNS.
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with the
SA community in a similar way.
We've been scratching our heads over how to implement it, though. What do
you have in mind?
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to become courteous again, one of the IETF lists might be
appropriate -- that's where the standard would be developed, after all.
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