Re: multicoloured text

2011-11-05 Thread tonjg
Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Not that I am aware of. That sounds more like a style score than something indicative of spam/ham, though. Have you seen a pattern? yeah sometimes I get price lists I never asked for from suppliers I've never heard of and they often use multi-coloured text for

multicoloured text

2011-11-04 Thread tonjg
does spamassassin score based on multiple different colours of text used throughout a spam mail? (eg: a different colour used for each paragraph) if so, is it possible to tweak the rule and increase that score? -- View this message in context:

spamassassin does not log to syslog

2011-08-10 Thread tonjg
I'm running spamassassin.i386 version 3.3.1-3.el4.rf on centos 4.8 (raq4 server) and I can't get SA to log to syslog. I understand the SA log defaults to mail but my mail log doesn't show any SA activity. I've got loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Logger::Syslog in a .pre file. But if I do:# spamd

Re: SA not picking up users

2010-09-19 Thread tonjg
Jari Fredriksson wrote: How do you connect SA to the mail system? The answer depends on that. I'm using mimedefang-2.70-1.el4.rf. I have the correct 'INPUT_MAIL_FILTER..' entry in sendmail.mc, no errors with md syntax. sa-mimedefang.cf is all correct. SA seems to be unaware of the users. I

Re: SA not picking up users

2010-09-19 Thread tonjg
ps/edit: having looked at the headers of incoming emails it seems that sendmail is not passing the mail to mimedefang, but I've checked several times and the INPUT_MAIL_FILTER entry is there and correct in sendmail.mc -- View this message in context:

Re: SA not picking up users solved

2010-09-19 Thread tonjg
I fixed it by cheating. I noticed on another (identical) server the sendmail.cf was a different size so for some reason restarting sendmail hadn't been updating the sendmail.cf so I copied the 'old' sendmail.cf over to the new server and restarted sendmail and now SA is scanning mail correctly.

Re: bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-18 Thread tonjg
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: do you have network checks enabled? Do you have network plugins (razor, pyzor, dcc, uribl) loaded? Do you have other plugins (like textcat) loaded? no, I am unfamilar with these plugins. which version of SA do you have installed? version 3.2.5-1.el4.rf

Re: bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-18 Thread tonjg
Kai Schaetzl wrote: So, how many tokens do you have in your db now? I hope this command gives the correct answer... # sa-learn --dump magic 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version 0.000 0514 0 non-token data: nspam 0.000 0

Re: bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-18 Thread tonjg
Mikael Syska wrote: Does it help when you sa-learn the spams ? Does it change the BAYES_ score for that mail ? I'm going to do another sa-learn when I hit 100 more spams and I'll see then if it makes a difference. In the meantime I've lowered my hit threshold to 4. DNS available? no --

Re: bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-18 Thread tonjg
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Don't do that. why not? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/bayes%2C-numbers-of-tokens-and-performance-tp27940005p27946788.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-18 Thread tonjg
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: DNS available? no well, why? DNS helps very much for catching spam. all blacklists use DNS (afaik) sorry, when you said dns I didn't know you were referring to the dnsbl's. I know the black lists are excellent for filtering spam but I've got those switched

Re: bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-18 Thread tonjg
Kai Schaetzl wrote: I've been running with 2 million with no problems. based on this I see you're right that my db's are tiny and not enough for the success rate I'm aiming for. -- View this message in context:

Re: bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-18 Thread tonjg
Jason Bertoch-2 wrote: You should really try to determine why your system isn't performing well first. ok I've changed it back to 5 -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/bayes%2C-numbers-of-tokens-and-performance-tp27940005p27947096.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users

Re: bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-18 Thread tonjg
update: after doing some reading on google I found init.pre and added: loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Razor2 and loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Pyzor and restarted spamassassin. -- View this message in context:

Re: bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-18 Thread tonjg
Yet Another Ninja wrote: Did you also install the plugins? These two are not delivered with SA. I thought they were. In my system I've got: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.002005/updates_spamassassin_org/25_razor2.cf /usr/share/spamassassin/25_razor2.cf and

bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-17 Thread tonjg
I've done a bayes learn on 500 spams and 400 hams, my spam hit threshold is 5 and I'm getting a success rate of about 40% in identifying spam, and that's after doing an sa-update too. I was hoping to get better results than this. How many spam and ham tokens does SA normally need before it really

Re: bayes, numbers of tokens and performance

2010-03-17 Thread tonjg
it's not 'a' spam I'm referring to, it lots of different spams getting through to my inbox with only 40% of them being identified as spam. This strikes me as a poor success rate. What do you mean by 'crappy mail bayes' ? the bayes learn was done on spam and ham that ended up in my inbox. -- View

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-19 Thread tonjg
Jari Fredriksson wrote: That is not the recipe I meant. That calls SA yes, but does not reject. I can't provide a recipe for procmail as I personally use maildrop, but the recipe that is needed is one filing the spam to a spam folder (or /dev/null). the golden rule for my server is that

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread tonjg
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: you seem to be running mimedefang which takes care about the e-mail. I have no idea how does mimedefang interact with spamassassin, but I think you should ask your question in mimedefang mailing list, or at least search the web for mimedefang and auto-learn.

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread tonjg
well this has certainly thrown a spanner in the works and I don't know what to do next. I was under the impression that sa was scanning my mail and red flagging any spams, then mimedefang would kick in rejecting the email at smtp. I'm completely confused now $ grep add_header

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread tonjg
Jari Fredriksson wrote: How does MimeDefang reject anything if it does not scan it? Your log header sample looked like it was scanned by MimeDefang. Propably MD calls SpamAssassin in it's scan process just like amavisd does. Using a perl package just to reject spam would be an overkill.

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
Mikael Syska wrote: [r...@freebsd /]# date -r 1266318121 Tue Feb 16 12:02:01 CET 2010 newsest atime should tell you when it last learned from a message. thanks for your response, I ran sa-learn --dump magic: 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version 0.000

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
RW-15 wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:29:38 +0100 Mikael Syska mik...@syska.dk wrote: Watching nham, nspam counts is more meaningful. my nspam and nham counts look the same as they were two weeks ago without change, which makes me think that bayes isn't learning... -- View this message in

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
Arthur Dent-6 wrote: Try # date -d @1266390928 ah yes thanks Arthur that worked: [r...@home admin]# date -d @1266390928 Wed Feb 17 07:15:28 GMT 2010 [r...@home admin]# -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27623785.html Sent from the

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: you may have autolearn plugin not active. What does X-Spam-Status header in your mail say? it says: X-Spam-Score: 4.463 () BAYES_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 172.16.1.36 I don't know

is bayes learning?

2010-02-16 Thread tonjg
I've got a feeling that the spamassassin on my machine is improving in the way it recognises spam but I'd like to be sure it's not just my imagination. I did my first manual bayes learn about 2 weeks ago using 200 spams and 200 hams, the process appeared to go properly. I read that autolearn is

Re: permission denied error keeps coming back

2010-02-05 Thread tonjg
David B Funk wrote: Do this, in a shell, as root, execute the command: chmod 0777 /var/lib/spamassassin/bayes David thanks for your help on this. The chmod command has solved the permission problem. I'm the only user on this server so it shouldn't be too risky. -- View this message in

Re: permission denied error keeps coming back

2010-02-03 Thread tonjg
Bowie Bailey wrote: Check the permissions on the /var/lib/spamassassin/bayes directory and contents. Make sure the mimedefang user can read and write to the directory as well as all of the files. since I edited the permissions (my previous post) the original error has gone but is now

Re: permission denied error keeps coming back

2010-02-02 Thread tonjg
Bowie Bailey wrote: ...Check the permissions on the /var/lib/spamassassin/bayes directory and contents. Make sure the mimedefang user can read and write to the directory as well as all of the files. ok thanks for your response bowie. I looked at the var/lib/spamassassin/bayes directory in

permission denied error keeps coming back

2010-02-01 Thread tonjg
ever since I did a bayes learn on 200 spams and 200 hams a couple of days ago I've had the following error appearing in my mail log: 'mimedefang-multiplexor[13951]: Slave 0 stderr: bayes: locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile /var/lib/spamassassin/bayes/bayes.lock.home.svr5.13952 for

repair bayes db ?

2010-01-29 Thread tonjg
raq550 running strongbolt 2, spamassassin.i386 0:3.2.5-1.el4 I get the following error when trying to do a an sa-learn command: bayes: bayes db version 0 is not able to be used, aborting! at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mail /SpamAssassin/BayesStore/DBM.pm line 196. Is there a fix for this?

bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-01-28 Thread tonjg
raq550 server OS: strongbolt2 spamassassin.i386 0:3.2.5-1.el4 I'm trying to run: sa-learn --spam --showdots --dir /path/to...mbox but it fails with: 'Learned tokens from 0 message(s) (0 messages examined)' my spam mail is in a file called mbox but when I run the above command to the directory

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-01-28 Thread tonjg
it's okay - I found the solution at: http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.1.x/doc/sa-learn.html the command needed --mbox to be included. I added this and the learning worked. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/bayes-learning-%270-messages-found%27-tp27358517p27358559.html

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-01-28 Thread tonjg
Mark Martinec wrote: If the argument is a single mbox file, precede it with a --mbox option, not with --dir . thanks for your response but I've got a further problem now (I think). I'm trying to do the same thing with the ham command# sa-learn --showdots --mbox --ham but nothing's

Re: is bayes enabled by default?

2010-01-18 Thread tonjg
Bowie Bailey wrote: So you have to make sure that when you are testing or learning, you use the same user that is used in production. thanks for your response. The only config for my SA is a global one. I'm the only user so all the settings I've tinkered with are system wide ones. I'm

is bayes enabled by default?

2010-01-17 Thread tonjg
I have sa version 3.2.5 my autolearn setting always shows as 'no'. Will this eventually come on by itself or do I need to turn it on? thanks for any advice. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-enabled-by-default--tp27201682p27201682.html Sent from the SpamAssassin -

Re: is bayes enabled by default?

2010-01-17 Thread tonjg
Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: It would show disabled if use_bayes or use_bayes_autolearn is off. thanks but in what file would it show this instruction? I looked in procmailrc, local.cf and 23_bayes.cf - couldn't find anything which told me whether bayes was enabled or disabled. -- View this

Re: is bayes enabled by default?

2010-01-17 Thread tonjg
Kai Schaetzl wrote: local.cf, if you don't put it in, it won't be there, of course. that doesn't tell me if bayes is enabled or disabled by default. Read the documentation: http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.2.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html the above link shows: use_bayes ( 0 | 1 )

Re: is bayes enabled by default?

2010-01-17 Thread tonjg
Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: You can set use_bayes and bayes_auto_learn to 1 in your local.cf. so if there is no 'use_bayes' entry in local.cf does that mean bayes is disabled by default? -- View this message in context:

Re: is bayes enabled by default?

2010-01-17 Thread tonjg
Benny Pedersen wrote: spamassassin 21 -D --lint | less thanks for this command. It produced quite a long output but some of the lines were confusing. Regarding bayes I found: [29394] dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Bayes from @INC [29394] dbg: bayes: no dbs present, cannot

Re: is bayes enabled by default?

2010-01-17 Thread tonjg
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: No, bayes is enabled by default provided that you have any required modules installed. ok thanks for your feedback Daryl, I think I do have the required modules installed. -- View this message in context:

Re: is bayes enabled by default?

2010-01-17 Thread tonjg
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Tonjg wrote on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:01:14 -0800 (PST): use_bayes ( 0 | 1 ) (default: 1) which I think means that even if it's not present in local.cf it's enabled, correct me if I'm wrong. correct. So, this link gave you the answer, right? But, as I wrote, if you

Re: is bayes enabled by default?

2010-01-17 Thread tonjg
Benny Pedersen wrote: ls -l /root/.spamassassin this command gives: total 0 -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-enabled-by-default--tp27201682p27203728.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

RE: newbie: configure SA to reject spam

2010-01-15 Thread tonjg
R-Elists wrote: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sendmail+reject+spam+smtp wow thanks a million -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/newbie%3A-configure-SA-to-reject-spam-tp27149042p27174842.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: newbie: configure SA to reject spam

2010-01-14 Thread tonjg
David B Funk wrote: So you need to tell us exactly how you've integrated SA into your sendmail before we can give you a precise answer. what I did was edit the local.cf so it contained this: required_hits 8 rewrite_subject 1 report_header 1 use_terse_report 1 defang_mime 0 report_safe 0

Re: newbie: configure SA to reject spam

2010-01-14 Thread tonjg
Robert Schetterer wrote: you can use spamass-milter to reject spam mails over a wanted level at smtp income stage how? how does one use spamass-milter to reject spam mails at smtp income stage? -- View this message in context:

newbie: configure SA to reject spam

2010-01-13 Thread tonjg
I'm a newbie to spamassassin, I installed it today on a raq550 running strongbolt2 which uses sendmail v8.22. I see that spam's are now being labelled [SPAM] in the subject line but what I want to do is block those emails from getting to my inbox. What's the next step to refecting those emails?

Re: newbie: configure SA to reject spam

2010-01-13 Thread tonjg
On 01/13/2010 07:22 PM, tonjg wrote: thanks for your response Ned. your last line describes exactly what I want to do - reject mail, do it at the smtp stage in sendmail - but I don't know how to achieve this. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/newbie%3A-configure-SA

Re: newbie: configure SA to reject spam

2010-01-13 Thread tonjg
yes thanks bowie I've managed to integrate SA into sendmail as per the link you gave but that page has no instructions for how to get sendmail to reject the spam. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/newbie%3A-configure-SA-to-reject-spam-tp27149042p27152771.html Sent from the

Re: newbie: configure SA to reject spam

2010-01-13 Thread tonjg
Kai Schaetzl wrote: SA does not do this for you. You would need to use some milter or so. but I thought SA had a way of instructing sendmail to reject/drop the spam... -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/newbie%3A-configure-SA-to-reject-spam-tp27149042p27152807.html

Re: newbie: configure SA to reject spam

2010-01-13 Thread tonjg
Mike Grau wrote: Call spamassassin from within a milter. I'm sorry to be the dumb newbie but how does one call spamassassin from within a milter? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/newbie%3A-configure-SA-to-reject-spam-tp27149042p27153159.html Sent from the SpamAssassin

Re: newbie: configure SA to reject spam

2010-01-13 Thread tonjg
Charles Gregory wrote: If you are able to scan the mail *during* the SMTP (sendmail) process, you can issue an 'exit code' to sendmail that will cause sendmail to 'reject' the mail, that's exactly what I want, but I can't find any instructions how to do it. -- View this message in