Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread @lbutlr
On 6 Sep 2019, at 14:37, @lbutlr wrote: > I do need to go through the logs again at some point and see how things are > shaping up. It would be interesting to see what the server-to-server > encryption looks like now for valid mail. I suspect that 1.1 has dropped to > near 0 and 1.0 is more

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread @lbutlr
On 6 Sep 2019, at 14:14, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: TLSv1.0 is EOLed and should not be used nor supported. > >> On 6 Sep 2019, at 01:57, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >>> well, if your clients (some old server installations) only support tls1.0, >>> it's better to allow it than forgint

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
TLSv1.0 is EOLed and should not be used nor supported. On 6 Sep 2019, at 01:57, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: well, if your clients (some old server installations) only support tls1.0, it's better to allow it than forgint it to go plaintext or reject the mail at all. On 06.09.19 00:57,

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread @lbutlr
On 6 Sep 2019, at 01:57, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 06.09.19 00:57, @lbutlr wrote: >> TLSv1.0 is EOLed and should not be used nor supported. > > well, if your clients (some old server installations) only support tls1.0, > it's better to allow it than forgint it to go plaintext or reject

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, Reio Remma wrote: Does the Received check only check the last untrusted relay? No, the named header checks test all the headers having that name (presuming there are multiple present). If you want to verify that TLS was used on the connection into your infrastructure,

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread Reio Remma
On 06/09/2019 15:53, RW wrote: On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 09:51:06 +0300 Reio Remma wrote: Hello! I recently did an experiment where I stopped accepting incoming e-mail without TLS. This seemingly cut off about 95-99% of spam. Unfortunately there still seem to be a small percentage of servers sending

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread RW
On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 09:51:06 +0300 Reio Remma wrote: > Hello! > > I recently did an experiment where I stopped accepting incoming > e-mail without TLS. This seemingly cut off about 95-99% of spam. > Unfortunately there still seem to be a small percentage of servers > sending without TLS, so that

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread Reio Remma
On 06/09/2019 15:25, RW wrote: On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:17:23 +0300 Reio Remma wrote: On 06/09/2019 09:57, @lbutlr wrote: On 6 Sep 2019, at 00:51, Reio Remma wrote: Even though I recall QMail having TLSv1 back when we were still using it. TLSv1.0 is EOLed and should not be used nor supported.

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread RW
On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 10:17:23 +0300 Reio Remma wrote: > On 06/09/2019 09:57, @lbutlr wrote: > > On 6 Sep 2019, at 00:51, Reio Remma wrote: > >> Even though I recall QMail having TLSv1 back when we were still > >> using it. > > TLSv1.0 is EOLed and should not be used nor supported. > > > > But

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 6 Sep 2019, at 00:51, Reio Remma wrote: Even though I recall QMail having TLSv1 back when we were still using it. On 06.09.19 00:57, @lbutlr wrote: TLSv1.0 is EOLed and should not be used nor supported. On 06/09/2019 10:57, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: well, if your clients (some

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread Reio Remma
On 06/09/2019 10:57, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 6 Sep 2019, at 00:51, Reio Remma wrote: Even though I recall QMail having TLSv1 back when we were still using it. On 06.09.19 00:57, @lbutlr wrote: TLSv1.0 is EOLed and should not be used nor supported. well, if your clients (some old

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 6 Sep 2019, at 00:51, Reio Remma wrote: Even though I recall QMail having TLSv1 back when we were still using it. On 06.09.19 00:57, @lbutlr wrote: TLSv1.0 is EOLed and should not be used nor supported. well, if your clients (some old server installations) only support tls1.0, it's

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread Reio Remma
On 06/09/2019 09:57, @lbutlr wrote: On 6 Sep 2019, at 00:51, Reio Remma wrote: Even though I recall QMail having TLSv1 back when we were still using it. TLSv1.0 is EOLed and should not be used nor supported. But yes, mailing lists are therein reason I a=have not gone 100% TLS myself (it’s

Re: Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread @lbutlr
On 6 Sep 2019, at 00:51, Reio Remma wrote: > Even though I recall QMail having TLSv1 back when we were still using it. TLSv1.0 is EOLed and should not be used nor supported. But yes, mailing lists are therein reason I a=have not gone 100% TLS myself (it’s not just this one, sadly). There is

Scoring TLS.

2019-09-06 Thread Reio Remma
Hello! I recently did an experiment where I stopped accepting incoming e-mail without TLS. This seemingly cut off about 95-99% of spam. Unfortunately there still seem to be a small percentage of servers sending without TLS, so that was a no go. Now I've instead turned to SpamAssassin to