Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-15 Thread Branko Čibej
On 13.08.2013 02:03, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: No one else remember the old Satan monitoring toolkit, that had an option to change the displayed name and icon to Santa? The name Subversion has enough positive reputation that changing it, just to avoid NSA style monitoring, seems very

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-15 Thread Johan Corveleyn
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Glenn Holmer ghol...@weycogroup.com wrote: On 08/12/2013 03:51 PM, Greg Stein wrote: Apache Subversion actually started as Inversion around December 1999, or January 2000. It wasn't until April 2000, that we accepted Subversion as a rename. It had version in

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-15 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 08/15/2013 06:18 AM, Johan Corveleyn wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Glenn Holmer ghol...@weycogroup.com wrote: On 08/12/2013 03:51 PM, Greg Stein wrote: Apache Subversion actually started as Inversion around December 1999, or January 2000. It wasn't until April 2000, that we

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-15 Thread Thomas Harold
On 8/12/2013 8:03 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: No one else remember the old Satan monitoring toolkit, that had an option to change the displayed name and icon to Santa? The name Subversion has enough positive reputation that changing it, just to avoid NSA style monitoring, seems very

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-15 Thread Naumenko, Roman
On 2013/08/12 5:25 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Glenn Holmer ghol...@weycogroup.com wrote: On 08/12/2013 03:51 PM, Greg Stein wrote: Apache Subversion actually started as Inversion around December 1999, or January 2000. It wasn't until April 2000, that we

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-15 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:23:35PM -0400, Thomas Harold wrote: We get around this whole issue with our users by either always saying Subversion instead of subversion so that it's clear we're talking about a proper noun instead of a verb. Or by just using SVN. Ah, the Secret Vigilante

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 11, 2013, at 20:24, Bill George wrote: I know it is standard practice in programming to use common words in the English language for specific software terminology or naming. However, this has often caused confusions. If you go through the story of Goldman Sachs programmer Serge

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag Bill George, am Montag, 12. August 2013 um 03:24 schrieben Sie: Hence this is my strong suggestion : next release, please consider altering the name subversion to something else. You don't really expect a project name to change this fast, don't you?! ;-) At least Sub-version.

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
Am 12.08.2013 03:24, schrieb Bill George: This is to prevent confusion to non-technical people who could mistake the meaning of the name and associate it to negative activity like hacking or stealing. Just a thought and suggestion that could have far reaching implications. There is nothing

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Carl Brewer
On 12/08/2013 6:01 PM, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: Am 12.08.2013 03:24, schrieb Bill George: This is to prevent confusion to non-technical people who could mistake the meaning of the name and associate it to negative activity like hacking or stealing. Just a thought and suggestion that could have

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Andy Levy
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Ryan Schmidt subversion-20...@ryandesign.com wrote: Should the GIMP change its name because (when not referring to the software) that can be a derogatory term? Should git change its name because (when not referring to the software) that term can be used as an

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Andy Levy wrote: ... probably suggested it for git as well. And isn't there a (possibly apocryphal) story about the blame (either in CVS or SVN) being aliased to annotate and praise because a manager somewhere didn't like the negative connotation of

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 08/12/2013 03:51 PM, Greg Stein wrote: Apache Subversion actually started as Inversion around December 1999, or January 2000. It wasn't until April 2000, that we accepted Subversion as a rename. It had version in the name, and we *were* trying to subvert the CVS installations/community, so

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Glenn Holmer ghol...@weycogroup.com wrote: On 08/12/2013 03:51 PM, Greg Stein wrote: Apache Subversion actually started as Inversion around December 1999, or January 2000. It wasn't until April 2000, that we accepted Subversion as a rename. It had version in

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Ed Hillmann
Wait a minute, he also erased his bash history. Was he suspected of covering up assaults as well?? I don't think the suspicion arose because the repository was named subversion. I think it was because source code was being transferred to an outside location. It could have been called Utter

Re: Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-12 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
No one else remember the old Satan monitoring toolkit, that had an option to change the displayed name and icon to Santa? The name Subversion has enough positive reputation that changing it, just to avoid NSA style monitoring, seems very destabilizing to a popular project. Let's not change it.

Suggestion to change the name Subversion

2013-08-11 Thread Bill George
Hello Apache, I know it is standard practice in programming to use common words in the English language for specific software terminology or naming. However, this has often caused confusions. If you go through the story of Goldman Sachs programmer Serge Aleynikov who was accused convicted of