Re: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-16 Thread Mark Thomas
On 15/03/2016 17:18, jimi.hulleg...@svensktnaringsliv.se wrote: > On Friday, March 11, 2016 10:03 PM, ma...@apache.org wrote: >> >> Monday works. I might try experimenting with some ideas between now and then >> anyway. > > Hi again, > > A bit shorter reply this time, because of time shortage.

RE: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-15 Thread jimi.hullegard
On Friday, March 11, 2016 10:03 PM, ma...@apache.org wrote: > > Monday works. I might try experimenting with some ideas between now and then > anyway. Hi again, A bit shorter reply this time, because of time shortage. I preferred to focus the little time I managed to "break free" on testing

Re: ***UNCHECKED*** RE: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-11 Thread Mark Thomas
On 11/03/2016 19:00, jimi.hulleg...@svensktnaringsliv.se wrote: > On Friday, March 11, 2016 6:07 PM, ma...@apache.org wrote: > I'm wasn't talking about gathering information regarding performance. I was > talking about gathering information about what jsp/tag code and what EL > variable names

RE: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-11 Thread jimi.hullegard
On Friday, March 11, 2016 6:07 PM, ma...@apache.org wrote: > > And a debug log message is unlikely to tell you any more than the thread dump > did. That depends on what is actually being logged. If the class name is printed, then one could immediately figure out the name of the EL variable

Re: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-11 Thread Mark Thomas
On 11/03/2016 14:17, jimi.hulleg...@svensktnaringsliv.se wrote: > On Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:44 PM, ma...@apache.org wrote: >> >> We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. If you are concerned >> about a performance issue then you need to know where to look to >> enable debug logging. A

RE: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-11 Thread jimi.hullegard
On Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:44 PM, ma...@apache.org wrote: > > We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. If you are concerned > about a performance issue then you need to know where to look to > enable debug logging. A profiler will tell you where to look and > at that point you don't need

Re: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-11 Thread Mark Thomas
On 10/03/2016 22:16, Christopher Schultz wrote: > Mark, > > On 3/10/16 4:43 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: >> On 10/03/2016 21:16, jimi.hulleg...@svensktnaringsliv.se wrote: >>> On Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:20 AM, ma...@apache.org wrote: > 3. Why is the problem not limited to the first request

Re: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark, On 3/10/16 4:43 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 10/03/2016 21:16, jimi.hulleg...@svensktnaringsliv.se wrote: >> On Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:20 AM, ma...@apache.org wrote: >>> 3. Why is the problem not limited to the first request for a

Re: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-10 Thread Mark Thomas
On 10/03/2016 21:16, jimi.hulleg...@svensktnaringsliv.se wrote: > On Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:20 AM, ma...@apache.org wrote: >> >>> 3. Why is the problem not limited to the first request for a jsp >>> page? >> >> Because EL imports may be dynamic so the EL has to be evaluated on >> execution.

RE: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-10 Thread jimi.hullegard
On Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:20 AM, ma...@apache.org wrote: > > > 3. Why is the problem not limited to the first request for a jsp page? > > Because EL imports may be dynamic so the EL has to be evaluated on execution. I'm not really sure I follow you now. Can you explain what you mean with

Re: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-10 Thread Mark Thomas
On 10/03/2016 10:19, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 10/03/2016 08:12, jimi.hulleg...@svensktnaringsliv.se wrote: >> Then surely one can look at the other implementations, and what they did to >> avoid this problem. But one thing off the top of my head would be to at >> least avoid doing that class

Re: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-10 Thread Mark Thomas
On 10/03/2016 08:12, jimi.hulleg...@svensktnaringsliv.se wrote: > On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 8:22 PM, ma...@apache.org wrote: >> It is a known 'feature' of the new EL requirements added in 3.0. The EL >> parser can't differentiate >> between an attribute without a scope and a reference to an

RE: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-10 Thread jimi.hullegard
On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 8:22 PM, ma...@apache.org wrote: > It is a known 'feature' of the new EL requirements added in 3.0. The EL > parser can't differentiate > between an attribute without a scope and a reference to an static field. > > See

Re: Intermittent ClassNotFoundException in Jasper EL evaluation

2016-03-09 Thread Mark Thomas
On 09/03/2016 18:20, jimi.hulleg...@svensktnaringsliv.se wrote: > Has anyone seen this problem before? What could be the cause of it? It is a known 'feature' of the new EL requirements added in 3.0. The EL parser can't differentiate between an attribute without a scope and a reference to an