Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-20 Thread Kees Jan Koster
Dear Leon, Oh, don't be so dramatic. There is a whole world out there of smaller companies that have one or two Tomcat servers in production, running on the cheapest shared server environment they could find. This product targets companies that have two or three developers, one of whom has

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Kees Jan Koster
Dear Chris, I am setting up a monitoring system for Tomcat servers and I am looking for hard limits in Tomcat servers in general. I found a few so far: file descriptors, memory pools (ok, these are jdk limits) and thread pools. Are there any other hard limits that I can run into? I

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Leon Rosenberg
I think the question you wanna ask yourself first is, do you want to monitor tomcat or do you want to monitor your application? regards Leon On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Kees Jan Koster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Chris, I am setting up a monitoring system for Tomcat servers and I am

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Kees Jan Koster
Dear Leon, I think the question you wanna ask yourself first is, do you want to monitor tomcat or do you want to monitor your application? I want to monitor Tomcat, not the application. I'm using the information to improve the Tomcat monitoring on Java-monitor.com. Currently you can see

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Leon Rosenberg
is there a demo available on the java-monitor.com? sofar i only find a php forum :-) Leon On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Kees Jan Koster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Leon, I think the question you wanna ask yourself first is, do you want to monitor tomcat or do you want to monitor your

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keen Jan, Kees Jan Koster wrote: Ah, sorry for the confusion. I should have asked for limits that are hard at run-time. Thread pool sizes may be editable, but they are fixed once Tomcat runs. Gotcha. Hard runtime limits makes a whole lot more

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Kees Jan Koster
Dear Leon, is there a demo available on the java-monitor.com? sofar i only find a php forum :-) The forum has the monitoring tool built-in. A bit weird at forst, but it makes it really simple to post questions, as you can just post graphs from the tool right on the forum. No need to make

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Kees Jan Koster
Dear Chris, Ah, sorry for the confusion. I should have asked for limits that are hard at run-time. Thread pool sizes may be editable, but they are fixed once Tomcat runs. Gotcha. Hard runtime limits makes a whole lot more sense. Sorry for not jumping to that obvious conclusion. I wasn't

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Leon Rosenberg
well, downloaded, installed, started, klicked, ... deleted... you should announce that your war is SENDING DATA to the central server in LARGE letters :-) which users are you targeting? No one i know (and i'm in the webapp business for about 10 years) will ever going to use this stuff, since its

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Tony Anecito
. Regards, -Tony --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Leon Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Leon Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hard limits in Tomcat? To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 7:23 AM I think the question you wanna ask yourself first

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Kees Jan Koster
Dear Leon, well, downloaded, installed, started, klicked, ... deleted... you should announce that your war is SENDING DATA to the central server in LARGE letters :-) which users are you targeting? No one i know (and i'm in the webapp business for about 10 years) will ever going to use this

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-19 Thread Leon Rosenberg
Hello Kees Jan, On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Kees Jan Koster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Leon, Oh, don't be so dramatic. There is a whole world out there of smaller companies that have one or two Tomcat servers in production, running on the cheapest shared server environment they could

Re: Hard limits in Tomcat?

2008-11-18 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kees Jan, Kees Jan Koster wrote: I am setting up a monitoring system for Tomcat servers and I am looking for hard limits in Tomcat servers in general. I found a few so far: file descriptors, memory pools (ok, these are jdk limits) and thread