AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Altmeier, Christian
No that's OK, I don't mean the time a user stays inactive for some minutes.
The session timeout is set to 66 minutes.
I have sessions which are inactive for 70 hours ...

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On 05/11/2012 6:50 PM, Altmeier, Christian  
christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a big problem. After some time, tomcat stops expiring sessions.
 We have enabled logging for org.apache.catalina.session.ManagerBase.
 So
we see that at first everything works fine and suddenly sessions didn't expire 
anymore.
 Before tomcat stops expiring sessions, it is noticeable that some
sessions need a lot of time to expire (10 - 30 minutes). In this time, other 
session expire as expected.

Isnt that what you would expect if some users stay active for longer? Have you 
confirmed that the long lasting sessions are idle? I think default session 
timeout in tomcat is 30 minutes so are you saying you have changed that to a 
lower value but its not working?

 I hope someone has an idea.

 Tomcat runs  on a 64bit Linux server.

 Greeting
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Re: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Igor Cicimov
On 05/11/2012 8:41 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:

 No that's OK, I don't mean the time a user stays inactive for some
minutes.
 The session timeout is set to 66 minutes.
 I have sessions which are inactive for 70 hours ...

Which tomcat version? Are they SSL sessions by some chance? Actually can
you post here your Connector config please?

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 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
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 Betreff: Re: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 6:50 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I have a big problem. After some time, tomcat stops expiring sessions.
  We have enabled logging for org.apache.catalina.session.ManagerBase.
  So
 we see that at first everything works fine and suddenly sessions didn't
expire anymore.
  Before tomcat stops expiring sessions, it is noticeable that some
 sessions need a lot of time to expire (10 - 30 minutes). In this time,
other session expire as expected.

 Isnt that what you would expect if some users stay active for longer?
Have you confirmed that the long lasting sessions are idle? I think default
session timeout in tomcat is 30 minutes so are you saying you have changed
that to a lower value but its not working?

  I hope someone has an idea.
 
  Tomcat runs  on a 64bit Linux server.
 
  Greeting
  IDS Scheer Consulting GmbH
  Gesch?ftsf?hrer/Managing Directors: Michael Rehm, Ivo Totev
  Sitz/Registered office: Altenkesseler Stra?e 17, 66115 Saarbr?cken,
 Germany - Registergericht/Commercial register: Saarbr?cken HRB 19681
  http://www.ids-scheer-consulting.com
 
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AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Altmeier, Christian
Yes we are using SSL.
Tomcat 6.0.32
Our connector config:
Connector port=8080 protocol=HTTP/1.1 connectionTimeout=2 
redirectPort=8443 scheme=https secure=true proxyName=..xx 
proxyPort=443/

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On 05/11/2012 8:41 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:

 No that's OK, I don't mean the time a user stays inactive for some
minutes.
 The session timeout is set to 66 minutes.
 I have sessions which are inactive for 70 hours ...

Which tomcat version? Are they SSL sessions by some chance? Actually can
you post here your Connector config please?

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 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 10:26
 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 6:50 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I have a big problem. After some time, tomcat stops expiring sessions.
  We have enabled logging for org.apache.catalina.session.ManagerBase.
  So
 we see that at first everything works fine and suddenly sessions didn't
expire anymore.
  Before tomcat stops expiring sessions, it is noticeable that some
 sessions need a lot of time to expire (10 - 30 minutes). In this time,
other session expire as expected.

 Isnt that what you would expect if some users stay active for longer?
Have you confirmed that the long lasting sessions are idle? I think default
session timeout in tomcat is 30 minutes so are you saying you have changed
that to a lower value but its not working?

  I hope someone has an idea.
 
  Tomcat runs  on a 64bit Linux server.
 
  Greeting
  IDS Scheer Consulting GmbH
  Gesch?ftsf?hrer/Managing Directors: Michael Rehm, Ivo Totev
  Sitz/Registered office: Altenkesseler Stra?e 17, 66115 Saarbr?cken,
 Germany - Registergericht/Commercial register: Saarbr?cken HRB 19681
  http://www.ids-scheer-consulting.com
 
 IDS Scheer Consulting GmbH
 Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Michael Rehm, Ivo Totev
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Re: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Mark Thomas
Altmeier, Christian christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:

Yes we are using SSL.
Tomcat 6.0.32
Our connector config:
Connector port=8080 protocol=HTTP/1.1 connectionTimeout=2
redirectPort=8443 scheme=https secure=true
proxyName=..xx proxyPort=443/

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On 05/11/2012 8:41 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:

 No that's OK, I don't mean the time a user stays inactive for some
minutes.
 The session timeout is set to 66 minutes.
 I have sessions which are inactive for 70 hours ...

Which tomcat version? Are they SSL sessions by some chance? Actually
can
you post here your Connector config please?

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 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 10:26
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 On 05/11/2012 6:50 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I have a big problem. After some time, tomcat stops expiring
sessions.
  We have enabled logging for
org.apache.catalina.session.ManagerBase.
  So
 we see that at first everything works fine and suddenly sessions
didn't
expire anymore.
  Before tomcat stops expiring sessions, it is noticeable that some
 sessions need a lot of time to expire (10 - 30 minutes). In this
time,
other session expire as expected.

 Isnt that what you would expect if some users stay active for longer?
Have you confirmed that the long lasting sessions are idle? I think
default
session timeout in tomcat is 30 minutes so are you saying you have
changed
that to a lower value but its not working?

  I hope someone has an idea.
 
  Tomcat runs  on a 64bit Linux server.
 
  Greeting
  IDS Scheer Consulting GmbH
  Gesch?ftsf?hrer/Managing Directors: Michael Rehm, Ivo Totev
  Sitz/Registered office: Altenkesseler Stra?e 17, 66115 Saarbr?cken,
 Germany - Registergericht/Commercial register: Saarbr?cken HRB 19681
  http://www.ids-scheer-consulting.com
 
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Re: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Igor Cicimov
On 05/11/2012 10:01 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:

 Yes we are using SSL.

The default session timeout for ssl in tomcat6 is 24 hours, maybe that
explains why.

 Tomcat 6.0.32
 Our connector config:
 Connector port=8080 protocol=HTTP/1.1 connectionTimeout=2
redirectPort=8443 scheme=https secure=true proxyName=..xx
proxyPort=443/

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 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 8:41 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:
 
  No that's OK, I don't mean the time a user stays inactive for some
 minutes.
  The session timeout is set to 66 minutes.
  I have sessions which are inactive for 70 hours ...

 Which tomcat version? Are they SSL sessions by some chance? Actually can
 you post here your Connector config please?
 
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  Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
  Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 10:26
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  Betreff: Re: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions
 
  On 05/11/2012 6:50 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:
  
   Hi,
   I have a big problem. After some time, tomcat stops expiring sessions.
   We have enabled logging for org.apache.catalina.session.ManagerBase.
   So
  we see that at first everything works fine and suddenly sessions didn't
 expire anymore.
   Before tomcat stops expiring sessions, it is noticeable that some
  sessions need a lot of time to expire (10 - 30 minutes). In this time,
 other session expire as expected.
 
  Isnt that what you would expect if some users stay active for longer?
 Have you confirmed that the long lasting sessions are idle? I think
default
 session timeout in tomcat is 30 minutes so are you saying you have changed
 that to a lower value but its not working?
 
   I hope someone has an idea.
  
   Tomcat runs  on a 64bit Linux server.
  
   Greeting
   IDS Scheer Consulting GmbH
   Gesch?ftsf?hrer/Managing Directors: Michael Rehm, Ivo Totev
   Sitz/Registered office: Altenkesseler Stra?e 17, 66115 Saarbr?cken,
  Germany - Registergericht/Commercial register: Saarbr?cken HRB 19681
   http://www.ids-scheer-consulting.com
  
  IDS Scheer Consulting GmbH
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AW: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Altmeier, Christian
No, sorry. Default should be 30 Minutes
We set it to 66 Minutes
But the sessions didn't even expire after 75 hours inactive time.

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Betreff: Re: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

On 05/11/2012 10:01 PM, Altmeier, Christian  
christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:

 Yes we are using SSL.

The default session timeout for ssl in tomcat6 is 24 hours, maybe that explains 
why.

 Tomcat 6.0.32
 Our connector config:
 Connector port=8080 protocol=HTTP/1.1 connectionTimeout=2
redirectPort=8443 scheme=https secure=true proxyName=..xx
proxyPort=443/

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 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 10:56
 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 8:41 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:
 
  No that's OK, I don't mean the time a user stays inactive for some
 minutes.
  The session timeout is set to 66 minutes.
  I have sessions which are inactive for 70 hours ...

 Which tomcat version? Are they SSL sessions by some chance? Actually
 can you post here your Connector config please?
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
  Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 10:26
  An: Tomcat Users List
  Betreff: Re: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions
 
  On 05/11/2012 6:50 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:
  
   Hi,
   I have a big problem. After some time, tomcat stops expiring sessions.
   We have enabled logging for org.apache.catalina.session.ManagerBase.
   So
  we see that at first everything works fine and suddenly sessions
  didn't
 expire anymore.
   Before tomcat stops expiring sessions, it is noticeable that some
  sessions need a lot of time to expire (10 - 30 minutes). In this
  time,
 other session expire as expected.
 
  Isnt that what you would expect if some users stay active for longer?
 Have you confirmed that the long lasting sessions are idle? I think
default
 session timeout in tomcat is 30 minutes so are you saying you have
 changed that to a lower value but its not working?
 
   I hope someone has an idea.
  
   Tomcat runs  on a 64bit Linux server.
  
   Greeting
   IDS Scheer Consulting GmbH
   Gesch?ftsf?hrer/Managing Directors: Michael Rehm, Ivo Totev
   Sitz/Registered office: Altenkesseler Stra?e 17, 66115
   Saarbr?cken,
  Germany - Registergericht/Commercial register: Saarbr?cken HRB 19681
   http://www.ids-scheer-consulting.com
  
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Re: AW: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread David kerber

On 11/5/2012 10:07 AM, Altmeier, Christian wrote:

No, sorry. Default should be 30 Minutes
We set it to 66 Minutes
But the sessions didn't even expire after 75 hours inactive time.


Are you sure they're really inactive that entire time, and don't have 
some kind of keepalive going on?





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An: Tomcat Users List
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On 05/11/2012 10:01 PM, Altmeier, Christian  
christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:


Yes we are using SSL.


The default session timeout for ssl in tomcat6 is 24 hours, maybe that explains 
why.


Tomcat 6.0.32
Our connector config:
Connector port=8080 protocol=HTTP/1.1 connectionTimeout=2

redirectPort=8443 scheme=https secure=true proxyName=..xx
proxyPort=443/


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On 05/11/2012 8:41 PM, Altmeier, Christian
christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:


No that's OK, I don't mean the time a user stays inactive for some

minutes.

The session timeout is set to 66 minutes.
I have sessions which are inactive for 70 hours ...


Which tomcat version? Are they SSL sessions by some chance? Actually
can you post here your Connector config please?


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Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 10:26
An: Tomcat Users List
Betreff: Re: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

On 05/11/2012 6:50 PM, Altmeier, Christian

christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:


Hi,
I have a big problem. After some time, tomcat stops expiring sessions.
We have enabled logging for org.apache.catalina.session.ManagerBase.
So

we see that at first everything works fine and suddenly sessions
didn't

expire anymore.

Before tomcat stops expiring sessions, it is noticeable that some

sessions need a lot of time to expire (10 - 30 minutes). In this
time,

other session expire as expected.


Isnt that what you would expect if some users stay active for longer?

Have you confirmed that the long lasting sessions are idle? I think

default

session timeout in tomcat is 30 minutes so are you saying you have
changed that to a lower value but its not working?



I hope someone has an idea.

Tomcat runs  on a 64bit Linux server.

Greeting
IDS Scheer Consulting GmbH
Gesch?ftsf?hrer/Managing Directors: Michael Rehm, Ivo Totev
Sitz/Registered office: Altenkesseler Stra?e 17, 66115
Saarbr?cken,

Germany - Registergericht/Commercial register: Saarbr?cken HRB 19681

http://www.ids-scheer-consulting.com


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2012-11-05 Thread Altmeier, Christian
Yes I think so:

Session Id  Guessed Locale  Guessed User name   Creation Time   Last 
Accessed Time  Used Time   Inactive Time   TTL
9B33CA0CA59049557CEA6B4938FA98DB2012-11-02 12:42:38 
2012-11-02 12:42:38 00:00:0075:44:05-74:38:05
D4E1E89D5758A7695A39D404C42290772012-11-02 12:39:36 
2012-11-02 12:44:41 00:05:0575:42:01-74:36:01
2ECEF959105BC59118EC462A37FA62AA2012-11-05 01:10:58 
2012-11-05 01:54:09 00:43:1014:32:34-13:26:34
...

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On 11/5/2012 10:07 AM, Altmeier, Christian wrote:
 No, sorry. Default should be 30 Minutes We set it to 66 Minutes But
 the sessions didn't even expire after 75 hours inactive time.

Are you sure they're really inactive that entire time, and don't have some kind 
of keepalive going on?



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 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 14:01
 An: Tomcat Users List
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 On 05/11/2012 10:01 PM, Altmeier, Christian  
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:

 Yes we are using SSL.

 The default session timeout for ssl in tomcat6 is 24 hours, maybe that 
 explains why.

 Tomcat 6.0.32
 Our connector config:
 Connector port=8080 protocol=HTTP/1.1 connectionTimeout=2
 redirectPort=8443 scheme=https secure=true proxyName=..xx
 proxyPort=443/

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 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 10:56
 An: Tomcat Users List
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 On 05/11/2012 8:41 PM, Altmeier, Christian
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:

 No that's OK, I don't mean the time a user stays inactive for some
 minutes.
 The session timeout is set to 66 minutes.
 I have sessions which are inactive for 70 hours ...

 Which tomcat version? Are they SSL sessions by some chance? Actually
 can you post here your Connector config please?

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 10:26
 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 6:50 PM, Altmeier, Christian
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a big problem. After some time, tomcat stops expiring sessions.
 We have enabled logging for org.apache.catalina.session.ManagerBase.
 So
 we see that at first everything works fine and suddenly sessions
 didn't
 expire anymore.
 Before tomcat stops expiring sessions, it is noticeable that some
 sessions need a lot of time to expire (10 - 30 minutes). In this
 time,
 other session expire as expected.

 Isnt that what you would expect if some users stay active for longer?
 Have you confirmed that the long lasting sessions are idle? I think
 default
 session timeout in tomcat is 30 minutes so are you saying you have
 changed that to a lower value but its not working?

 I hope someone has an idea.

 Tomcat runs  on a 64bit Linux server.

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Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Pid
On 05/11/2012 15:27, Altmeier, Christian wrote:
 Yes I think so:
 
 Session Id  Guessed Locale  Guessed User name   Creation Time   Last 
 Accessed Time  Used Time   Inactive Time   TTL
 9B33CA0CA59049557CEA6B4938FA98DB2012-11-02 12:42:38   
   2012-11-02 12:42:38 00:00:0075:44:05-74:38:05
 D4E1E89D5758A7695A39D404C42290772012-11-02 12:39:36   
   2012-11-02 12:44:41 00:05:0575:42:01-74:36:01
 2ECEF959105BC59118EC462A37FA62AA2012-11-05 01:10:58   
   2012-11-05 01:54:09 00:43:1014:32:34-13:26:34
 ...

Are you holding a reference to the session object anywhere?


p


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 Von: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 16:20
 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions
 
 On 11/5/2012 10:07 AM, Altmeier, Christian wrote:
 No, sorry. Default should be 30 Minutes We set it to 66 Minutes But
 the sessions didn't even expire after 75 hours inactive time.
 
 Are you sure they're really inactive that entire time, and don't have some 
 kind of keepalive going on?
 
 

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 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 14:01
 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 10:01 PM, Altmeier, Christian  
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:

 Yes we are using SSL.

 The default session timeout for ssl in tomcat6 is 24 hours, maybe that 
 explains why.

 Tomcat 6.0.32
 Our connector config:
 Connector port=8080 protocol=HTTP/1.1 connectionTimeout=2
 redirectPort=8443 scheme=https secure=true proxyName=..xx
 proxyPort=443/

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 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 8:41 PM, Altmeier, Christian
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:

 No that's OK, I don't mean the time a user stays inactive for some
 minutes.
 The session timeout is set to 66 minutes.
 I have sessions which are inactive for 70 hours ...

 Which tomcat version? Are they SSL sessions by some chance? Actually
 can you post here your Connector config please?

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 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
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 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 6:50 PM, Altmeier, Christian
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a big problem. After some time, tomcat stops expiring sessions.
 We have enabled logging for org.apache.catalina.session.ManagerBase.
 So
 we see that at first everything works fine and suddenly sessions
 didn't
 expire anymore.
 Before tomcat stops expiring sessions, it is noticeable that some
 sessions need a lot of time to expire (10 - 30 minutes). In this
 time,
 other session expire as expected.

 Isnt that what you would expect if some users stay active for longer?
 Have you confirmed that the long lasting sessions are idle? I think
 default
 session timeout in tomcat is 30 minutes so are you saying you have
 changed that to a lower value but its not working?

 I hope someone has an idea.

 Tomcat runs  on a 64bit Linux server.

 Greeting
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AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Altmeier, Christian
I don't think so ... but I can't exclude it.
The problem is, that everything works fine and then suddenly all session, which 
are not closes by the browser, stay open.
Have you an idea how I can see, if there are any references?


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On 05/11/2012 15:27, Altmeier, Christian wrote:
 Yes I think so:

 Session Id  Guessed Locale  Guessed User name   Creation Time   Last 
 Accessed Time  Used Time   Inactive Time   TTL
 9B33CA0CA59049557CEA6B4938FA98DB2012-11-02 12:42:38   
   2012-11-02 12:42:38 00:00:0075:44:05-74:38:05
 D4E1E89D5758A7695A39D404C42290772012-11-02 12:39:36   
   2012-11-02 12:44:41 00:05:0575:42:01-74:36:01
 2ECEF959105BC59118EC462A37FA62AA2012-11-05 01:10:58   
   2012-11-05 01:54:09 00:43:1014:32:34-13:26:34
 ...

Are you holding a reference to the session object anywhere?


p


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 Von: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
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 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 11/5/2012 10:07 AM, Altmeier, Christian wrote:
 No, sorry. Default should be 30 Minutes We set it to 66 Minutes But
 the sessions didn't even expire after 75 hours inactive time.

 Are you sure they're really inactive that entire time, and don't have some 
 kind of keepalive going on?



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 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 14:01
 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 10:01 PM, Altmeier, Christian  
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:

 Yes we are using SSL.

 The default session timeout for ssl in tomcat6 is 24 hours, maybe that 
 explains why.

 Tomcat 6.0.32
 Our connector config:
 Connector port=8080 protocol=HTTP/1.1 connectionTimeout=2
 redirectPort=8443 scheme=https secure=true proxyName=..xx
 proxyPort=443/

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 10:56
 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 8:41 PM, Altmeier, Christian
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:

 No that's OK, I don't mean the time a user stays inactive for some
 minutes.
 The session timeout is set to 66 minutes.
 I have sessions which are inactive for 70 hours ...

 Which tomcat version? Are they SSL sessions by some chance? Actually
 can you post here your Connector config please?

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 10:26
 An: Tomcat Users List
 Betreff: Re: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 On 05/11/2012 6:50 PM, Altmeier, Christian
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com  wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a big problem. After some time, tomcat stops expiring sessions.
 We have enabled logging for org.apache.catalina.session.ManagerBase.
 So
 we see that at first everything works fine and suddenly sessions
 didn't
 expire anymore.
 Before tomcat stops expiring sessions, it is noticeable that some
 sessions need a lot of time to expire (10 - 30 minutes). In this
 time,
 other session expire as expected.

 Isnt that what you would expect if some users stay active for longer?
 Have you confirmed that the long lasting sessions are idle? I think
 default
 session timeout in tomcat is 30 minutes so are you saying you have
 changed that to a lower value but its not working?

 I hope someone has an idea.

 Tomcat runs  on a 64bit Linux server.

 Greeting
 IDS Scheer Consulting GmbH
 Gesch?ftsf?hrer/Managing Directors: Michael Rehm, Ivo Totev
 Sitz/Registered office: Altenkesseler Stra?e 17, 66115
 Saarbr?cken,
 Germany - Registergericht/Commercial register: Saarbr?cken HRB
 19681
 http://www.ids-scheer-consulting.com

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Re: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Igor,

On 11/5/12 8:01 AM, Igor Cicimov wrote:
 On 05/11/2012 10:01 PM, Altmeier, Christian  
 christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:
 
 Yes we are using SSL.
 
 The default session timeout for ssl in tomcat6 is 24 hours, maybe
 that explains why.

Uh, what?

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Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Christian,

On 11/5/12 10:48 AM, Altmeier, Christian wrote:
 I don't think so ... but I can't exclude it. The problem is, that 
 everything works fine and then suddenly all session, which are not 
 closes by the browser, stay open. Have you an idea how I can see,
 if there are any references?

Are you obtaining the list of sessions from Tomcat's manager app or some
other way?

Did you take markt's advice to take a thread dump to see if the
background thread is stuck on something? Just post the current stack
trace of the background thread (it's called
ContainerBackgroundProcessor with some other stuff tacked onto the end).

What happens if you request explicit expiration of sessions?

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Re: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Igor Cicimov
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 Igor,

 On 11/5/12 8:01 AM, Igor Cicimov wrote:
  On 05/11/2012 10:01 PM, Altmeier, Christian 
  christian.altme...@softwareag.com wrote:
 
  Yes we are using SSL.
 
  The default session timeout for ssl in tomcat6 is 24 hours, maybe
  that explains why.

 Uh, what?

Hi Chris, I got this from the config page
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/http.html
where at the bottom under SSL support it says the default sessionTimeout is
24 hours if not specified.


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RE: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Igor Cicimov [mailto:icici...@gmail.com] 
 Subject: Re: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

   The default session timeout for ssl in tomcat6 is 24 hours, maybe
   that explains why.
 
  Uh, what?

 Hi Chris, I got this from the config page
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/http.html
 where at the bottom under SSL support it says the default sessionTimeout 
 is 24 hours if not specified.

That's the SSL session, not the HTTP session.

 - Chuck


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AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Altmeier, Christian
Hey chris,
do you have a guideline how to get the thread dump?
We don't host tomcat by our self. It's a customer system.

Yes I use the manager app to see the sessions.

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Christian,

On 11/5/12 10:48 AM, Altmeier, Christian wrote:
 I don't think so ... but I can't exclude it. The problem is, that
 everything works fine and then suddenly all session, which are not
 closes by the browser, stay open. Have you an idea how I can see, if
 there are any references?

Are you obtaining the list of sessions from Tomcat's manager app or some other 
way?

Did you take markt's advice to take a thread dump to see if the background 
thread is stuck on something? Just post the current stack trace of the 
background thread (it's called ContainerBackgroundProcessor with some other 
stuff tacked onto the end).

What happens if you request explicit expiration of sessions?

-chris

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RE: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

2012-11-05 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Altmeier, Christian [mailto:christian.altme...@softwareag.com] 
 Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: tomcat 6.0.32 stops expiring sessions

 do you have a guideline how to get the thread dump?

It's in the FAQ:

http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/HowTo#How_do_I_obtain_a_thread_dump_of_my_running_webapp_.3F

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