Re: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support]
On 13/11/2013 14:53, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hello all, When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community, Sorry but how could you say spamming the Apache Community? without knowing me and how I have been contributing to the Apache community and projects? It's obviously unsolicited commercial email, which is the common base definition of spam. It also seems to me that sending it falls below the standard that one expects from members of the Apache community - I don't recall it happening before. there can and ought to be consequences. What do you mean? Doesn't Apache have some minimu standards for this? He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't contributed any code in about a year. I am PMC Chair of OpenWebBeans project. I think you don't know the roles of PMC Chair, please learn from here before talking. Lastly, I get everyday huge amount of such marketing emails from all big known software vendors. I am sure you also receive such emails. If I am not interested, I simply unsubscribe from the list, this is not a really big problem to discuss! If you received such email from my email address, and not interested please unsubscribe from the list and you will never get a such email again. Best Gurkan On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:24 PM, Tim Watts t...@cliftonfarm.org wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 14:56 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote: I got it too. I think its easier to delete and forget it, as to debate about it. ;-) When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community, there can and ought to be consequences. ___ [1] At least that's his claim in the email. Their website doesn't post any PMC member list that I could find. Doesn't Apache have some minimum standards for this? He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't contributed any code in about a year. regards Leon On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: Hi. I got the following email in my personal email inbox. Isn't there some rule, or at least some matter of self-control, in not using email addresses collected on this list for commercial promotion ? Original Message From: - Wed Nov 13 13:48:37 2013 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: Return-Path: bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa.com@mail173. us4.mcsv.net X-Original-To: a...@ice-sa.com Delivered-To: andre.warn...@ice-sa.com Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=205.201.128.173; helo=mail173.us4.mcsv.net; envelope-from=bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net; receiver=a...@ice-sa.com Received: from mail173.us4.mcsv.net (mail173.us4.mcsv.net[205.201.128.173]) by tor.combios.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFAB3C0AD2 for a...@ice-sa.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:48:25 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=k1; d= mail173.us4.mcsv.net; h=Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Date:Message-ID:List- Unsubscribe:Sender:Content-Type:MIME-Version; i=gurkanerdogdu=3Dyahoo.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net; bh=Mxp5nGTBAhJ4tiDlAEgNxpJYWwM=; b=Ocyx3ymgzmK11vA3/+524g885jWe0hlVlLQwFLGw052EepxX/u3JqrGTIZv6+afps8yWKhHqpMRz DR1JqSg9JPIfmn6xVzPvr5X/5Ve5g78ZKmZm5BmxmCRNyqB4fIc5+iLuIas31KKRImjm5cpEh8P5 RAauIo5RquVVHcBgVbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=k1; d= mail173.us4.mcsv.net; b=BmLvRK7R5zl2/VRFdLZ09BJy50nOQFBXLcUoHLPQqfO o7DkgQbmi8Ug7bwNHNpotAwBLuXBIp2sW w8nzt6XeIcHys59itcvcLBKCt6zoR1 vBv1RFw1OMSwlwuilV8u0zcNtNcav+LdWoW8zAnksyWOWL /knOPWkSMr9PbtPhtB4=; Received: from (127.0.0.1) by mail173.us4.mcsv.net id hgdqg0174lg1 for a...@ice-sa.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:47:58 + (envelope-from bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa@mail173.us4.mcsv.net) Subject: TomEE Professional Support From: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com Reply-To: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com To: a...@ice-sa.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:47:58 + Message-ID: 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52ea052bfdbb3.20131113124746@mail173. us4.mcsv.net X-Mailer: MailChimp Mailer - **CID105b909b64a052bfdbb3** X-Campaign: mailchimp9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64 X-campaignid: mailchimp9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64 X-Report-Abuse: Please report abuse for this campaign here: http://www.mailchimp.com/abuse/abuse.phtml?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid= 105b909b64e=a052bfdbb3 X-MC-User: 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e x-accounttype: ff List-Unsubscribe: mailto:unsubscribe-9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e- 105b909b64-a052bfd...@mailin1.us2.mcsv.net?subject=unsubscribe, http://blogspot.us3.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u= 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=b75a8245a1e=a052bfdbb3c=105b909b64 Sender: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdogdu=yahoo.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net x-mcda: FALSE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_--=_MCPart_ 1458955636 MIME-Version: 1.0 20% off TomEE Support from Java
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Pid wrote: On 13/11/2013 14:53, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hello all, When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community, Sorry but how could you say spamming the Apache Community? without knowing me and how I have been contributing to the Apache community and projects? It's obviously unsolicited commercial email, which is the common base definition of spam. It also seems to me that sending it falls below the standard that one expects from members of the Apache community - I don't recall it happening before. To add maybe a final note to this thread : From further analysis, it seems that in order to send these undoubtedly spam emails, Gurkan seems to have used the services of an organisation which, according to their own website at least (http://mailchimp.com/legal/privacy/) is taking some steps to insure that their lists of recipients would not be spread further. Whether this was intentional or not, that is to his credit. As an information professional, I feel however that I should add that this is far from being the general case, and that in my experience it happens frequently that such recipient lists are subsequently copied, re-distributed, re-sold or leaked to other related-or-not entities, even by organisations which very ponderously /pretend/ otherwise on their public website (or in public hearings, for that matter). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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I received this too. This is deeply wrong. I subscribed to Apache lists, not a commercial one. I look forward to seeing what the investigation reveals and what actions take place. On 14 November 2013 08:25, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote: On 13/11/2013 14:53, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: Hello all, When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community, Sorry but how could you say spamming the Apache Community? without knowing me and how I have been contributing to the Apache community and projects? It's obviously unsolicited commercial email, which is the common base definition of spam. It also seems to me that sending it falls below the standard that one expects from members of the Apache community - I don't recall it happening before. there can and ought to be consequences. What do you mean? Doesn't Apache have some minimu standards for this? He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't contributed any code in about a year. I am PMC Chair of OpenWebBeans project. I think you don't know the roles of PMC Chair, please learn from here before talking. Lastly, I get everyday huge amount of such marketing emails from all big known software vendors. I am sure you also receive such emails. If I am not interested, I simply unsubscribe from the list, this is not a really big problem to discuss! If you received such email from my email address, and not interested please unsubscribe from the list and you will never get a such email again. Best Gurkan On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:24 PM, Tim Watts t...@cliftonfarm.org wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 14:56 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote: I got it too. I think its easier to delete and forget it, as to debate about it. ;-) When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community, there can and ought to be consequences. ___ [1] At least that's his claim in the email. Their website doesn't post any PMC member list that I could find. Doesn't Apache have some minimum standards for this? He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't contributed any code in about a year. regards Leon On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: Hi. I got the following email in my personal email inbox. Isn't there some rule, or at least some matter of self-control, in not using email addresses collected on this list for commercial promotion ? Original Message From: - Wed Nov 13 13:48:37 2013 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: Return-Path: bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa.com@mail173. us4.mcsv.net X-Original-To: a...@ice-sa.com Delivered-To: andre.warn...@ice-sa.com Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=205.201.128.173; helo=mail173.us4.mcsv.net; envelope-from=bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net; receiver=a...@ice-sa.com Received: from mail173.us4.mcsv.net (mail173.us4.mcsv.net[205.201.128.173]) by tor.combios.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFAB3C0AD2 for a...@ice-sa.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:48:25 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=k1; d= mail173.us4.mcsv.net; h=Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Date:Message-ID:List- Unsubscribe:Sender:Content-Type:MIME-Version; i=gurkanerdogdu=3Dyahoo.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net; bh=Mxp5nGTBAhJ4tiDlAEgNxpJYWwM=; b=Ocyx3ymgzmK11vA3/+524g885jWe0hlVlLQwFLGw052EepxX/u3JqrGTIZv6+afps8yWKhHqpMRz DR1JqSg9JPIfmn6xVzPvr5X/5Ve5g78ZKmZm5BmxmCRNyqB4fIc5+iLuIas31KKRImjm5cpEh8P5 RAauIo5RquVVHcBgVbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=k1; d= mail173.us4.mcsv.net; b=BmLvRK7R5zl2/VRFdLZ09BJy50nOQFBXLcUoHLPQqfO o7DkgQbmi8Ug7bwNHNpotAwBLuXBIp2sW w8nzt6XeIcHys59itcvcLBKCt6zoR1 vBv1RFw1OMSwlwuilV8u0zcNtNcav+LdWoW8zAnksyWOWL /knOPWkSMr9PbtPhtB4=; Received: from (127.0.0.1) by mail173.us4.mcsv.net id hgdqg0174lg1 for a...@ice-sa.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:47:58 + (envelope-from bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa@mail173.us4.mcsv.net) Subject: TomEE Professional Support From: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com Reply-To: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com To: a...@ice-sa.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:47:58 + Message-ID: 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52ea052bfdbb3.20131113124746@mail173. us4.mcsv.net X-Mailer: MailChimp Mailer - **CID105b909b64a052bfdbb3** X-Campaign: mailchimp9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64 X-campaignid: mailchimp9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64 X-Report-Abuse: Please report abuse for this campaign here: http://www.mailchimp.com/abuse/abuse.phtml?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid= 105b909b64e=a052bfdbb3 X-MC-User: 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e x-accounttype: ff List-Unsubscribe: mailto:unsubscribe-9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e- 105b909b64-a052bfd...@mailin1.us2.mcsv.net?subject=unsubscribe,
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On 14/11/2013 09:38, James Green wrote: I received this too. This is deeply wrong. I subscribed to Apache lists, not a commercial one. I look forward to seeing what the investigation reveals and what actions take place. With my list moderator/owner hat on. I have confirmed that only the list moderators and the infrastructure team have direct access to the subscription lists. The evidence available points to the e-mail addresses having been harvested either by parsing one of the list archives or simply by virtue of being a subscriber to the list. There is no evidence that the subscriber list was accessed directly. The action taken has been to make clear (both publicly in this thread and privately elsewhere) that this was not acceptable and should not be repeated. An assurance has been given that this will not be repeated. At this point, I think the matter can be considered closed. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
[OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support]
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On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 14:56 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote: I got it too. I think its easier to delete and forget it, as to debate about it. ;-) When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community, there can and ought to be consequences. ___ [1] At least that's his claim in the email. Their website doesn't post any PMC member list that I could find. Doesn't Apache have some minimum standards for this? He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't contributed any code in about a year. regards Leon On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: Hi. I got the following email in my personal email inbox. Isn't there some rule, or at least some matter of self-control, in not using email addresses collected on this list for commercial promotion ? Original Message From: - Wed Nov 13 13:48:37 2013 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: Return-Path: bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa.com@mail173. us4.mcsv.net X-Original-To: a...@ice-sa.com Delivered-To: andre.warn...@ice-sa.com Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=205.201.128.173; helo=mail173.us4.mcsv.net; envelope-from=bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net; receiver=a...@ice-sa.com Received: from mail173.us4.mcsv.net (mail173.us4.mcsv.net[205.201.128.173]) by tor.combios.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFAB3C0AD2 for a...@ice-sa.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:48:25 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=k1; d= mail173.us4.mcsv.net; h=Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Date:Message-ID:List- Unsubscribe:Sender:Content-Type:MIME-Version; i=gurkanerdogdu=3Dyahoo.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net; bh=Mxp5nGTBAhJ4tiDlAEgNxpJYWwM=; b=Ocyx3ymgzmK11vA3/+524g885jWe0hlVlLQwFLGw052EepxX/u3JqrGTIZv6+afps8yWKhHqpMRz DR1JqSg9JPIfmn6xVzPvr5X/5Ve5g78ZKmZm5BmxmCRNyqB4fIc5+iLuIas31KKRImjm5cpEh8P5 RAauIo5RquVVHcBgVbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=k1; d= mail173.us4.mcsv.net; b=BmLvRK7R5zl2/VRFdLZ09BJy50nOQFBXLcUoHLPQqfO o7DkgQbmi8Ug7bwNHNpotAwBLuXBIp2sW w8nzt6XeIcHys59itcvcLBKCt6zoR1 vBv1RFw1OMSwlwuilV8u0zcNtNcav+LdWoW8zAnksyWOWL /knOPWkSMr9PbtPhtB4=; Received: from (127.0.0.1) by mail173.us4.mcsv.net id hgdqg0174lg1 for a...@ice-sa.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:47:58 + (envelope-from bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa@mail173.us4.mcsv.net) Subject: TomEE Professional Support From: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com Reply-To: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com To: a...@ice-sa.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:47:58 + Message-ID: 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52ea052bfdbb3.20131113124746@mail173. us4.mcsv.net X-Mailer: MailChimp Mailer - **CID105b909b64a052bfdbb3** X-Campaign: mailchimp9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64 X-campaignid: mailchimp9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64 X-Report-Abuse: Please report abuse for this campaign here: http://www.mailchimp.com/abuse/abuse.phtml?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid= 105b909b64e=a052bfdbb3 X-MC-User: 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e x-accounttype: ff List-Unsubscribe: mailto:unsubscribe-9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e- 105b909b64-a052bfd...@mailin1.us2.mcsv.net?subject=unsubscribe, http://blogspot.us3.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u= 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=b75a8245a1e=a052bfdbb3c=105b909b64 Sender: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdogdu=yahoo.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net x-mcda: FALSE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_--=_MCPart_ 1458955636 MIME-Version: 1.0 20% off TomEE Support from Java EE Guru Gurkan Erdogdu. He really knows Apache Tomcat, TomEE and related Java EE projects in source code level! Email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser (http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u= 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=105b909b64e=a052bfdbb3) . ** Support for Apache TomEE (http://blogspot.us3.list- manage1.com/track/click?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid= bceee0c9bae=a052bfdbb3) Funs BUY NOW (http://blogspot.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u= 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=6a24f4ee0ee=a052bfdbb3) ** TomEE Support : 20% Off ** professional TomEE Support with NO HIDDEN COST! divimg src=http://blogspot.us3.list-manage.com/qr/coupon?e= a052bfdbb3data=eyJjaWQiOiIxMDViOTA5YjY0IiwidW lkIjoiOTc4MWNmMGNjZGFjNzYwNGYxZjdmZDUyZSIsImNvZGUiOiIzYzE0OT g3NDIxIiwidGV4dCI6IjIwJSBvZmYgMSBUb21FRSBTdXBwb3J0IiwidGlkIj oiOTcxMDJlZDgyNiIsInVzZXMiOjF9s=2 alt=20% off 1 TomEE Support title=20% off 1 TomEE Supporta href=http://9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e. 105b909b64.list-manage.com/3c14987421 alt= style=display:none;margin- left:-px;/a/div
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Hi,
-Original Message-
From: Tim Watts [mailto:t...@cliftonfarm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:24 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support]
On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 14:56 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
I got it too. I think its easier to delete and forget it, as to debate
about it. ;-)
When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache
community,
there can and ought to be consequences.
___
[1] At least that's his claim in the email. Their website doesn't post
any PMC member list that I could find. Doesn't Apache have some minimum
standards for this? He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't
contributed any code in about a year.
According to [1] and [2], Gurkan Erdogdu is the PMC Chair of the Apache
OpenWebBeans project:
[1] http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openwebbeans-pmc
[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/#who-runs-the-asf
Regards,
Konstantin Preißer
regards
Leon
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:
Hi.
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using email addresses collected on this list for commercial promotion ?
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On 13/11/2013 13:15, André Warnier wrote: Hi. I got the following email in my personal email inbox. Isn't there some rule, or at least some matter of self-control, in not using email addresses collected on this list for commercial promotion ? FYI. This e-mail has triggered a number of complaints across the ASF, not just on this list. With my list moderator hat on I'm trying to find out exactly what happened and I'll update the list as I have some useful information to report. So far, I can confirm that the e-mail is not a forgery and that it was sent by Gurkan Erdogdu who is the Chair of OpenWebBeans and a member of the ASF. I am currently attempting to discover how the list of recipients was compiled. Mark Original Message From: - Wed Nov 13 13:48:37 2013 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: Return-Path: bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa@mail173.us4.mcsv.net X-Original-To: a...@ice-sa.com Delivered-To: andre.warn...@ice-sa.com Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=205.201.128.173; helo=mail173.us4.mcsv.net; envelope-from=bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa@mail173.us4.mcsv.net; receiver=a...@ice-sa.com Received: from mail173.us4.mcsv.net (mail173.us4.mcsv.net [205.201.128.173])by tor.combios.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFAB3C0AD2for a...@ice-sa.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:48:25 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=k1; d=mail173.us4.mcsv.net; h=Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Date:Message-ID:List-Unsubscribe:Sender:Content-Type:MIME-Version; i=gurkanerdogdu=3dyahoo@mail173.us4.mcsv.net; bh=Mxp5nGTBAhJ4tiDlAEgNxpJYWwM=; b=Ocyx3ymgzmK11vA3/+524g885jWe0hlVlLQwFLGw052EepxX/u3JqrGTIZv6+afps8yWKhHqpMRz DR1JqSg9JPIfmn6xVzPvr5X/5Ve5g78ZKmZm5BmxmCRNyqB4fIc5+iLuIas31KKRImjm5cpEh8P5 RAauIo5RquVVHcBgVbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=k1; d=mail173.us4.mcsv.net; b=BmLvRK7R5zl2/VRFdLZ09BJy50nOQFBXLcUoHLPQqfOo7DkgQbmi8Ug7bwNHNpotAwBLuXBIp2sW w8nzt6XeIcHys59itcvcLBKCt6zoR1vBv1RFw1OMSwlwuilV8u0zcNtNcav+LdWoW8zAnksyWOWL /knOPWkSMr9PbtPhtB4=; Received: from (127.0.0.1) by mail173.us4.mcsv.net id hgdqg0174lg1 for a...@ice-sa.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:47:58 + (envelope-from bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa@mail173.us4.mcsv.net) Subject: TomEE Professional Support From: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com Reply-To: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com To: a...@ice-sa.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:47:58 + Message-ID: 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52ea052bfdbb3.20131113124...@mail173.us4.mcsv.net X-Mailer: MailChimp Mailer - **CID105b909b64a052bfdbb3** X-Campaign: mailchimp9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64 X-campaignid: mailchimp9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64 X-Report-Abuse: Please report abuse for this campaign here: http://www.mailchimp.com/abuse/abuse.phtml?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=105b909b64e=a052bfdbb3 X-MC-User: 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e x-accounttype: ff List-Unsubscribe: mailto:unsubscribe-9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e-105b909b64-a052bfd...@mailin1.us2.mcsv.net?subject=unsubscribe, http://blogspot.us3.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=b75a8245a1e=a052bfdbb3c=105b909b64 Sender: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdogdu=yahoo@mail173.us4.mcsv.net x-mcda: FALSE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_--=_MCPart_1458955636 MIME-Version: 1.0 20% off TomEE Support from Java EE Guru Gurkan Erdogdu. He really knows Apache Tomcat, TomEE and related Java EE projects in source code level! Email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser (http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=105b909b64e=a052bfdbb3) . ** Support for Apache TomEE (http://blogspot.us3.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=bceee0c9bae=a052bfdbb3) Funs BUY NOW (http://blogspot.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=6a24f4ee0ee=a052bfdbb3) ** TomEE Support : 20% Off ** professional TomEE Support with NO HIDDEN COST! divimg src=http://blogspot.us3.list-manage.com/qr/coupon?e=a052bfdbb3data=eyJjaWQiOiIxMDViOTA5YjY0IiwidWlkIjoiOTc4MWNmMGNjZGFjNzYwNGYxZjdmZDUyZSIsImNvZGUiOiIzYzE0OTg3NDIxIiwidGV4dCI6IjIwJSBvZmYgMSBUb21FRSBTdXBwb3J0IiwidGlkIjoiOTcxMDJlZDgyNiIsInVzZXMiOjF9s=2; alt=20% off 1 TomEE Support title=20% off 1 TomEE Supporta href=http://9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64.list-manage.com/3c14987421; alt= style=display:none;margin-left:-px;/a/div http://blogspot.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=909133d7cde=a052bfdbb3 ** TomEE Support Discount
Re: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support]
Hello all, When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community, Sorry but how could you say spamming the Apache Community? without knowing me and how I have been contributing to the Apache community and projects? there can and ought to be consequences. What do you mean? Doesn't Apache have some minimu standards for this? He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't contributed any code in about a year. I am PMC Chair of OpenWebBeans project. I think you don't know the roles of PMC Chair, please learn from here before talking. Lastly, I get everyday huge amount of such marketing emails from all big known software vendors. I am sure you also receive such emails. If I am not interested, I simply unsubscribe from the list, this is not a really big problem to discuss! If you received such email from my email address, and not interested please unsubscribe from the list and you will never get a such email again. Best Gurkan On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:24 PM, Tim Watts t...@cliftonfarm.org wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 14:56 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote: I got it too. I think its easier to delete and forget it, as to debate about it. ;-) When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community, there can and ought to be consequences. ___ [1] At least that's his claim in the email. Their website doesn't post any PMC member list that I could find. Doesn't Apache have some minimum standards for this? He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't contributed any code in about a year. regards Leon On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: Hi. I got the following email in my personal email inbox. Isn't there some rule, or at least some matter of self-control, in not using email addresses collected on this list for commercial promotion ? Original Message From: - Wed Nov 13 13:48:37 2013 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: Return-Path: bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa.com@mail173. us4.mcsv.net X-Original-To: a...@ice-sa.com Delivered-To: andre.warn...@ice-sa.com Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=205.201.128.173; helo=mail173.us4.mcsv.net; envelope-from=bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net; receiver=a...@ice-sa.com Received: from mail173.us4.mcsv.net (mail173.us4.mcsv.net[205.201.128.173]) by tor.combios.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFAB3C0AD2 for a...@ice-sa.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:48:25 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=k1; d= mail173.us4.mcsv.net; h=Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Date:Message-ID:List- Unsubscribe:Sender:Content-Type:MIME-Version; i=gurkanerdogdu=3Dyahoo.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net; bh=Mxp5nGTBAhJ4tiDlAEgNxpJYWwM=; b=Ocyx3ymgzmK11vA3/+524g885jWe0hlVlLQwFLGw052EepxX/u3JqrGTIZv6+afps8yWKhHqpMRz DR1JqSg9JPIfmn6xVzPvr5X/5Ve5g78ZKmZm5BmxmCRNyqB4fIc5+iLuIas31KKRImjm5cpEh8P5 RAauIo5RquVVHcBgVbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=k1; d= mail173.us4.mcsv.net; b=BmLvRK7R5zl2/VRFdLZ09BJy50nOQFBXLcUoHLPQqfO o7DkgQbmi8Ug7bwNHNpotAwBLuXBIp2sW w8nzt6XeIcHys59itcvcLBKCt6zoR1 vBv1RFw1OMSwlwuilV8u0zcNtNcav+LdWoW8zAnksyWOWL /knOPWkSMr9PbtPhtB4=; Received: from (127.0.0.1) by mail173.us4.mcsv.net id hgdqg0174lg1 for a...@ice-sa.com; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:47:58 + (envelope-from bounce-mc.us3_22715643.227889-aw=ice-sa@mail173.us4.mcsv.net) Subject: TomEE Professional Support From: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com Reply-To: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com To: a...@ice-sa.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:47:58 + Message-ID: 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52ea052bfdbb3.20131113124746@mail173. us4.mcsv.net X-Mailer: MailChimp Mailer - **CID105b909b64a052bfdbb3** X-Campaign: mailchimp9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64 X-campaignid: mailchimp9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e.105b909b64 X-Report-Abuse: Please report abuse for this campaign here: http://www.mailchimp.com/abuse/abuse.phtml?u=9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid= 105b909b64e=a052bfdbb3 X-MC-User: 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e x-accounttype: ff List-Unsubscribe: mailto:unsubscribe-9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52e- 105b909b64-a052bfd...@mailin1.us2.mcsv.net?subject=unsubscribe, http://blogspot.us3.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u= 9781cf0ccdac7604f1f7fd52eid=b75a8245a1e=a052bfdbb3c=105b909b64 Sender: Apache TomEE Support gurkanerdogdu=yahoo.com@ mail173.us4.mcsv.net x-mcda: FALSE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_--=_MCPart_ 1458955636 MIME-Version: 1.0 20% off TomEE Support from Java EE Guru Gurkan Erdogdu. He really knows Apache Tomcat, TomEE and related Java EE projects in source code level! Email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser (http://us3.campaign-archive1.com/?u=
Re: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support]
On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 06:53 -0800, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
Hello all,
When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community,
Sorry but how could you say spamming the Apache Community? without
knowing me and how I have been contributing to the Apache community
and projects?
spam: n. Unsolicited email sent in bulk for commercial purposes.
That I don't know you only makes it more spammy.
there can and ought to be consequences.
What do you mean?
Doesn't Apache have some minimu standards for this? He seems to
be a project committer, but hasn't contributed any code in about a
year.
I am PMC Chair of OpenWebBeans project. I think you don't know the
roles of PMC Chair, please learn from here before talking.
You mean that role comes with spamming privileges? News to me.
Lastly,
I get everyday huge amount of such marketing emails from all big known
software vendors. I am sure you also receive such emails. If I am not
interested, I simply unsubscribe from the list, this is not a really
big problem to discuss!
If you received such email from my email address, and not interested
please unsubscribe from the list and you will never get a such email
again.
'Everyone else does it' is a pretty shaky ethical foundation. Yes, it's
easy enough to unsubscribe. But before I do that I need to check around
and make sure I can trust the link so I'm not just feeding a spammer. I
get enough 'opt-out' crap already without having trusted sources like
ASF hopping on the bandwagon. If this is going to be the new norm for
ASF I may have to rethink my list subscriptions.
Dude, you're not helping your mission here. Take your wrist slap and
find a better channel to drum up business.
Best
Gurkan
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:24 PM, Tim Watts t...@cliftonfarm.org
wrote:
On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 14:56 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
I got it too. I think its easier to delete and forget it, as to debate
about it. ;-)
When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community,
there can and ought to be consequences.
___
[1] At least that's his claim in the email. Their website doesn't post
any PMC member list that I could find. Doesn't Apache have some minimum
standards for this? He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't
contributed any code in about a year.
regards
Leon
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM, André
Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:
Hi.
I got the following email in my personal email inbox.
Isn't there some rule, or at least some matter of self-control, in not
using email addresses collected on this list for commercial promotion ?
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On 13/11/2013 15:22, Tim Watts wrote: I get enough 'opt-out' crap already without having trusted sources like ASF hopping on the bandwagon. If this is going to be the new norm for ASF I may have to rethink my list subscriptions. With my list owner hat on again, I'd just like to make it crystal clear that this spam was not sent by the Apache Tomcat community or any other part of the ASF. While the individual who sent the e-mail is a member of the ASF and is active in a number of ASF communities, the individual was acting as an representative of their company. They were not acting on behalf of the ASF. While the ASF recognises that it is possible for spammers to scrap e-mail addresses from ASF mailing lists, it is ASF policy that the lists of the subscribers to ASF mailing lists are kept private. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support]
This email does not have any relation with my activities in ASF and its
projects. Its solely related with my marketing team in which how you get
emails. If I thought that it will be a spam, would I put my email address to
sender? I think no! We thought that you can benefit from this email.
Anyway, I closed the discussion from my side! If you are really feeling bad now
because of receiving such email from me, please unsubscribe the list.
Cheers.
Gurkan
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:23 PM, Tim Watts t...@cliftonfarm.org wrote:
On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 06:53 -0800, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
Hello all,
When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community,
Sorry but how could you say spamming the Apache Community? without
knowing me and how I have been contributing to the Apache community
and projects?
spam: n. Unsolicited email sent in bulk for commercial purposes.
That I don't know you only makes it more spammy.
there can and ought to be consequences.
What do you mean?
Doesn't Apache have some minimu standards for this? He seems to
be a project committer, but hasn't contributed any code in about a
year.
I am PMC Chair of OpenWebBeans project. I think you don't know the
roles of PMC Chair, please learn from here before talking.
You mean that role comes with spamming privileges? News to me.
Lastly,
I get everyday huge amount of such marketing emails from all big known
software vendors. I am sure you also receive such emails. If I am not
interested, I simply unsubscribe from the list, this is not a really
big problem to discuss!
If you received such email from my email address, and not interested
please unsubscribe from the list and you will never get a such email
again.
'Everyone else does it' is a pretty shaky ethical foundation. Yes, it's
easy enough to unsubscribe. But before I do that I need to check around
and make sure I can trust the link so I'm not just feeding a spammer. I
get enough 'opt-out' crap already without having trusted sources like
ASF hopping on the bandwagon. If this is going to be the new norm for
ASF I may have to rethink my list subscriptions.
Dude, you're not helping your mission here. Take your wrist slap and
find a better channel to drum up business.
Best
Gurkan
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:24 PM, Tim Watts t...@cliftonfarm.org
wrote:
On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 14:56 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
I got it too. I think its easier to delete and forget it, as to debate
about it. ;-)
When an Apache project founder[1] starts spamming the Apache community,
there can and ought to be consequences.
___
[1] At least that's his claim in the email. Their website doesn't post
any PMC member list that I could find. Doesn't Apache have some minimum
standards for this? He seems to be a project committer, but hasn't
contributed any code in about a year.
regards
Leon
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM, André
Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:
Hi.
I got the following email in my personal email inbox.
Isn't there some rule, or at least some matter of self-control, in not
using email addresses collected on this list for commercial promotion ?
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Re: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support]
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.comwrote: Anyway, I closed the discussion from my side! If you are really feeling bad now because of receiving such email from me, please unsubscribe the list. Gurkan, that seems to be an issue - people did not choose to be subscribed to your marketing list, they did choose to be on the Tomcat Users list :) In your defence, I am a Tomcat Users list subscriber, and I did not get mail from your marketing list :) Good luck!
Re: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support]
This email does not have any relation with my activities in ASF and its projects. Its solely related with my marketing team in which how you get emails. If I thought that it will be a spam, would I put my email address to sender? I think no! We thought that you can benefit from this email. Anyway, I closed the discussion from my side! If you are really feeling bad now because of receiving such email from me, please unsubscribe the list. So to sum up you created a mailing list somehow, and then sent an unsolicited email to a list of people. Now you demand that they unsubscribe from your mailing list. You also feign that you can't understand why people are complaining. To turn this on its head, how about this. If each person on this list, decides that you might be interested in something (I don't know a site selling a little blue pill lets say for example), and added your email address to a mailing service. Then when you complain about all the unsolicited email, we can tell you well we thought that you might be interested and Anyway, I closed the discussion from my side! If you are really feeling bad now because of receiving such email from me, please unsubscribe the list. How would that make you feel? Just because you are bored of this topic, doesn't mean other people are. We are upset that somebody has spammed us. We want satisfaction. Some kind of apology would be a start. Owning up to how created the mailing list with emails might help. That way may be we can try to prevent it from happening again. Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: This email does not have any relation with my activities in ASF and its projects. Its solely related with my marketing team in which how you get emails. If I thought that it will be a spam, would I put my email address to sender? I think no! We thought that you can benefit from this email. Anyway, I closed the discussion from my side! If you are really feeling bad now because of receiving such email from me, please unsubscribe the list. Cheers. Gurkan Gurkan, I am not an Apache committer, but I do contribute from time to time to the Tomcat Users lists, using my free time to try to help others. It annoys me in general when I receive unsollicited advertisement emails. It annoys me all the more when these unsolicited advertisement emails come from someone who obviously used an email address scraped (or worse) from a list to which I participate. And even more so when it turns out that the person at the origin of it is someone who should be aware of at least some ethics commonly accepted in the Open Source world. I did not choose to be on your marketing list. Why should I have to inconvenience myself by opting out of it by sending some email to someone or something I do not know, at the risk of my email appearing on even more such spam lists ? (Do you happily click on all the unsubscribe links that you receive ?) So please, since you were the one to put me on that list against my will, take the burden yourself of unsubscribing me right now. In any case, if the objective was to gather favorable potential customer attention, the reactions so far on this list should have shown by now that the result is rather negative. On this type of list that was quite predictable, which doesn't speak very well for your marketing team's sense. And you haven't helped your case by your own reactions so far. Since this correspondence will stay in the list archives, maybe it will help deter others in the future. Aleluia. Note also that if the objective was to advertise your capacity to provide professional help for matters related to Tomcat, there was a better way to do that all along : http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/SupportAndTraining - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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Im surprised an ASF member wouldn't know better and then would go further and try to defend his spamming of user lists. I think I'll pass on his guru level support even if he does know the project on the code level. On Wednesday, November 13, 2013, André Warnier wrote: Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: This email does not have any relation with my activities in ASF and its projects. Its solely related with my marketing team in which how you get emails. If I thought that it will be a spam, would I put my email address to sender? I think no! We thought that you can benefit from this email. Anyway, I closed the discussion from my side! If you are really feeling bad now because of receiving such email from me, please unsubscribe the list. Cheers. Gurkan Gurkan, I am not an Apache committer, but I do contribute from time to time to the Tomcat Users lists, using my free time to try to help others. It annoys me in general when I receive unsollicited advertisement emails. It annoys me all the more when these unsolicited advertisement emails come from someone who obviously used an email address scraped (or worse) from a list to which I participate. And even more so when it turns out that the person at the origin of it is someone who should be aware of at least some ethics commonly accepted in the Open Source world. I did not choose to be on your marketing list. Why should I have to inconvenience myself by opting out of it by sending some email to someone or something I do not know, at the risk of my email appearing on even more such spam lists ? (Do you happily click on all the unsubscribe links that you receive ?) So please, since you were the one to put me on that list against my will, take the burden yourself of unsubscribing me right now. In any case, if the objective was to gather favorable potential customer attention, the reactions so far on this list should have shown by now that the result is rather negative. On this type of list that was quite predictable, which doesn't speak very well for your marketing team's sense. And you haven't helped your case by your own reactions so far. Since this correspondence will stay in the list archives, maybe it will help deter others in the future. Aleluia. Note also that if the objective was to advertise your capacity to provide professional help for matters related to Tomcat, there was a better way to do that all along : http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/SupportAndTraining - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Neven, On 11/13/13, 11:06 AM, Neven Cvetkovic wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu gurkanerdo...@yahoo.comwrote: Anyway, I closed the discussion from my side! If you are really feeling bad now because of receiving such email from me, please unsubscribe the list. Gurkan, that seems to be an issue - people did not choose to be subscribed to your marketing list, they did choose to be on the Tomcat Users list :) In your defence, I am a Tomcat Users list subscriber, and I did not get mail from your marketing list :) I got one, but it went to spam. CRM114 FTW! - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJShC19AAoJEBzwKT+lPKRYxysQAIi9rIC/0UF7Jukzjd+t5aoZ hCZ3oUf7HLNBw2ewvgvjK0ENOsDOxuhPjFYRYctlx+bRcrwMHVhMHreIMy8asPkY N5bRGCEjKXg6G1FTqHnSTXQn2l8nNVM4fdvASGNJVfdrxfwuU1cELuy5T+qhSFHP WZCQnx/REUCeWx8QGFCmV87TWizCk97ipO8swy++fzBCb94Ja9OIvS1fOzBaDZ+c lcamOUA6aKDbsS7OmUhUC0xzNoTScvtUiNNQ82HQdk6+0dbtmsZJedqOzTl+WLUq e5GJG7wUm+eXWhDGuCtOZ9VdGM4aaZaVv00KjwXg5nEtn4sHkaU1O186gQf6hiTv gxMr1T3gswQG7DK1egoGE6klxea6L2/0pG05xQCAuEKqIFi2KcZve28zxHdB+C5C C3NcSS3kBzngSxALYaoy0rCTj0qyxKkXLR5ld486aUiwJNv7PTQPqhDh1tdibxrb w533dOQ7oOipx1z7+N0Mo5PwMEJSvSI0NysHPyJlBozvnQScMq7lR6q/RqI6MNpq qYYAJztOryXhTGG/uC9jfWBWcI3V/jHeCZoOHzigFxGu1q9iVICjqf96owD26JXI UwICnWsJ7Rh99n97IB87krLO6HamCyFvRl1IcdsBlRFO+q9wUSD2+CSR2xeOJWZV xR2HK99SMI5A3TF9koM6 =MkCG -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Leo, On 11/13/13, 9:21 AM, Leo Donahue - OETX wrote: -Original Message- From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Subject: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support] Hi. I got the following email in my personal email inbox. Isn't there some rule, or at least some matter of self-control, in not using email addresses collected on this list for commercial promotion ? I don't know why, but TomEE makes me think of Chris Farley. If TomEE is Chris Farley, I think that makes Tomcat David Spade. Not much better. :/ - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJShC2oAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRY40EQAKK+C23KuehYmRm2PKnxhDWf 8BIpNMM3Gf9ZqixcCPgx6iouLxOJ+lL2AuQAFm8Dlp+G5qDXCh710rDHfFImPn6R DUfHgq0jV5heyB8vLzScEU4Tfn7PBh2HYXjgLau7KvicpRLxcsepSn3HBetPyr0f sk5pIMH4mWLWJWe8dPt9rAV+6oro/l9FWpn8MeOKAdlLnG+i8k1VpTxiavTT8+8s A26i4x5q+bv/VpyNRgiTjeDDbjIX4HDJMcYl6rG0uVW5woKq+niE1cuCIuJ550QH VrbDsGrQNkSRiTNWDvvSLshkRGf7tzlLLK9y3cu41nqU/VGLxKRWvatZF7gx8q1P 8tZRDvn17RybfZm0BEuWd4MBQJEzn4Y5+60q6tS+MzXrauUVrgQjvgxPpIp/iaFv N8EoeuAARmRtEcVIoP6rugOwe9Tsspc0BbvxgPNWko2A+tlvPKzt7Qt4c3tDe4cE CCeeoppkzA3UN9GMNm6Flk/k9ExgP25r5l+D4rtWThgKlr+QhCMD26FwqUxnFsN6 vSE6cwkkT4rQoCpQ2NUFudGngStD5+STBMiJj8Cr/DBPXfDE4p4QFw7a/GLzpKCl 2KZV+1D2layRfdnEKxtjqNuEMzJA6+lx9ghE/fkLSe2Ujjq4OKtyyTBSP/bl0UCd aHGzJUZsexhq6rrp57Ca =gg6w -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
RE: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support]
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: [OT] [Fwd: TomEE Professional Support] I got one, but it went to spam. CRM114 FTW! Guess I'll have to plug mine back in... http://www.indelibleinc.com/kubrick/crm114/CRM114.jpg - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
