RE: Compression and SSL

2009-11-03 Thread George Sexton
> -Original Message- > From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:18 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Compression and SSL > > Thanks for all the suggestions so far guys. > Are there any other tip

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, On 11/3/2009 3:06 AM, André Warnier wrote: > You have to look at > it from the browser's point of view. When it sees an "incomplete" link, > it completes it using the protocol and hostname from which the current > page was obtained, and then i

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-03 Thread Pid
at Users List Subject: Re: Compression and SSL Can I get more granular? I'd be happy for a pointer to a good reference on the subject. There are probably tons on Google, if you look for "website optimi[z,s]ation" or the like. Personally, I have found that a very large proportion

RE: Compression and SSL

2009-11-03 Thread Jeffrey Janner
, i.e. we have to customize some files that would be in the WAR. Jeff -Original Message- From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:41 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Compression and SSL Peter Crowther wrote: ... > Jeffrey's since confirm

RE: Compression and SSL

2009-11-03 Thread Jeffrey Janner
--Original Message- From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:07 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Compression and SSL > Can I get more granular? I'd be happy for a pointer to a good reference > on the subject. There are probably tons on Go

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-03 Thread Pid
On 03/11/2009 10:40, André Warnier wrote: Peter Crowther wrote: ... Jeffrey's since confirmed it's not a CPU issue - thanks Jeffrey! - so I agree that bandwidth/latency is the one to solve, as the rest of the thread's been working on while I've been asleep! Elaborating a bit on what I mentione

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-03 Thread André Warnier
Peter Crowther wrote: ... Jeffrey's since confirmed it's not a CPU issue - thanks Jeffrey! - so I agree that bandwidth/latency is the one to solve, as the rest of the thread's been working on while I've been asleep! Elaborating a bit on what I mentioned before, and sorry Jeffrey if this sounds

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-03 Thread Peter Crowther
2009/11/2 George Sexton > You didn't read the original post very closely. > > >> to serve applications from the US to Asia-based clients. > > It's bandwidth and latency. > Actually, yes, I did. And I saw that, and I suspected latency would be the answer. Suspicion is not confirmation however :

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-03 Thread Pid
ll probably pay off big time. Even a cheap low power server might offer a better service if the resources are small enough, and it's in the locality. p -Original Message- From: Pid [mailto:p...@pidster.com] Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:12 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subj

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-03 Thread André Warnier
Jeffrey Janner wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions so far guys. Are there any other tips I could provide to the developers that they can do to improve throughput? Should they hard-code the http:// for all the static elements to avoid passing them over SSL, If these items are not sensitive, t

RE: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread Jeffrey Janner
com] Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:56 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Compression and SSL > -Original Message- > From: peter.crowth...@googlemail.com > [mailto:peter.crowth...@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Crowther > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009

RE: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread Jeffrey Janner
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] >> Will setting the HTTPS connector "compression=on" actually compress the >> data for HTTPS? >Any reason to suspect it wouldn't? Some result from a Google search I did trying to find a solution to this issue led me to infer that

RE: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread Jeffrey Janner
ter Crowther Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:35 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Compression and SSL 2009/11/2 George Sexton > In general, Compressing HTML can help a great deal for any case besides a > local network. > ... or a CPU-limited server. To the OP: What's the bottle

RE: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread Jeffrey Janner
PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Compression and SSL Jeffrey Janner wrote: > OK, another newbie-ish question here. > Then a dummy-ish answer may be sufficient : > > Will setting the HTTPS connector "compression=on" actually compress the > data for HTTPS? It w

RE: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread Jeffrey Janner
r.com] Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:12 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Compression and SSL On 02/11/2009 16:48, Jeffrey Janner wrote: > OK, another newbie-ish question here. > > > > I am using Tomcat 5.5.x with APR/native libraries on Windows 2003 x32 or > Wi

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeffrey, On 11/2/2009 11:48 AM, Jeffrey Janner wrote: > We encrypt everything using SSL, from Login page onward, with > of CONFIDENTIAL. [snip] > Response time is noticeably slow (based on complaint level) and I am > looking for ways to improve it

RE: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread George Sexton
> -Original Message- > From: peter.crowth...@googlemail.com > [mailto:peter.crowth...@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Crowther > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:35 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Compression and SSL > > 2009/11/2 George S

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread Peter Crowther
2009/11/2 George Sexton > In general, Compressing HTML can help a great deal for any case besides a > local network. > ... or a CPU-limited server. To the OP: What's the bottleneck in your environment? CPU? Disk I/O? Network bandwidth? Measure the problem, *then* look for solutions to the pr

RE: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread George Sexton
> -Original Message- > From: Pid [mailto:p...@pidster.com] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:12 AM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Compression and SSL > > On 02/11/2009 16:48, Jeffrey Janner wrote: > > OK, another newbie-ish question here. > > &g

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread André Warnier
Jeffrey Janner wrote: OK, another newbie-ish question here. Then a dummy-ish answer may be sufficient : Will setting the HTTPS connector "compression=on" actually compress the data for HTTPS? It will compress all data it would compress it it wasn't HTTPS. Does it compress before or afte

Re: Compression and SSL

2009-11-02 Thread Pid
On 02/11/2009 16:48, Jeffrey Janner wrote: OK, another newbie-ish question here. I am using Tomcat 5.5.x with APR/native libraries on Windows 2003 x32 or Windows 2008 x64 to serve applications from the US to Asia-based clients. We encrypt everything using SSL, from Login page onward, with o