RE: session drop from https to http

2006-08-28 Thread Amir S

Hi,

Please note that the problem I describe only happen in the first time the
HTTP and HTTPS combination is performed.
For example if I use http and then https and then http the session stays the
same.
But if I start with https and then http then the session drops and a new
session is allocated and then if I move to https and the http every thing is
then fine.
Any ideas how to resolve this problem?
 
Thanks
Amir 


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From: josemanuel lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:00 AM
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Subject: Re: session drop from https to http


Hi 

The reazon is because the seesion is  created with
info  from the call: example: IP address,  Port Etc, 
and  Tomcat has to  create  a new session because the
info is different, I'm being trying to find a solution
for this problem, but still I'm working on that. I'll
keep you  posted...or if you  find a solution please
forward that  to me

Thanks

--- Amir S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I have a Jakarta 5.0.28.
 When entering the tomcat first
 https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp and then
 http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp
 The sessionID changes?!
 In the revise (http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp and then
 https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp)
 order it does not, why is that?!
 How can I fix it?
 Please note that the different is in the HTTPS and
 HTTP order.
  
 Regards,
 Amir S
  
 
 
 

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Re: session drop from https to http

2006-08-28 Thread Andrés González

On 8/28/06, Amir S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

Please note that the problem I describe only happen in the first time the
HTTP and HTTPS combination is performed.
For example if I use http and then https and then http the session stays the
same.
But if I start with https and then http then the session drops and a new
session is allocated and then if I move to https and the http every thing is
then fine.
Any ideas how to resolve this problem?

Don't drop to http.



-Original Message-
From: josemanuel lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:00 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: session drop from https to http


Hi

The reazon is because the seesion is  created with
info  from the call: example: IP address,  Port Etc,
and  Tomcat has to  create  a new session because the
info is different, I'm being trying to find a solution
for this problem, but still I'm working on that. I'll
keep you  posted...or if you  find a solution please
forward that  to me

Thanks

--- Amir S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,

 I have a Jakarta 5.0.28.
 When entering the tomcat first
 https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp and then
 http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp
 The sessionID changes?!
 In the revise (http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp and then
 https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp)
 order it does not, why is that?!
 How can I fix it?
 Please note that the different is in the HTTPS and
 HTTP order.

 Regards,
 Amir S





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Re: session drop from https to http

2006-08-28 Thread Andrés González

What is the reason to mix http and https? Why don't you serve all your
pages with https? I think the performance argument is not relevant
anymore...

On 8/28/06, Duong BaTien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greetings:

I have the same problem and look for any suggested solution. In my case,
any user coming to the site has a session tag with username such as
Guest-xxx. The user is dynamically directed to secure (https) and
non-secure (http) section depending on the requested resources.
Currently, a user needs to signOn twice with the same username before
the identified session is sticked.

Thanks.

On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 13:20 +0200, Amir S wrote:
 Hi,

 Please note that the problem I describe only happen in the first time the
 HTTP and HTTPS combination is performed.
 For example if I use http and then https and then http the session stays the
 same.
 But if I start with https and then http then the session drops and a new
 session is allocated and then if I move to https and the http every thing is
 then fine.
 Any ideas how to resolve this problem?

 Thanks
 Amir


 -Original Message-
 From: josemanuel lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:00 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: session drop from https to http


 Hi

 The reazon is because the seesion is  created with
 info  from the call: example: IP address,  Port Etc,
 and  Tomcat has to  create  a new session because the
 info is different, I'm being trying to find a solution
 for this problem, but still I'm working on that. I'll
 keep you  posted...or if you  find a solution please
 forward that  to me

 Thanks

 --- Amir S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi All,
 
  I have a Jakarta 5.0.28.
  When entering the tomcat first
  https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp and then
  http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp
  The sessionID changes?!
  In the revise (http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp and then
  https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp)
  order it does not, why is that?!
  How can I fix it?
  Please note that the different is in the HTTPS and
  HTTP order.
 
  Regards,
  Amir S
 
 
 
 
 
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session drop from https to http

2006-08-27 Thread Amir S
Hi All,

I have a Jakarta 5.0.28.
When entering the tomcat first https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp and then
http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp
The sessionID changes?!
In the revise (http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp and then https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp)
order it does not, why is that?!
How can I fix it?
Please note that the different is in the HTTPS and HTTP order.
 
Regards,
Amir S
 



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Re: session drop from https to http

2006-08-27 Thread Pulkit Singhal

Hmm...kind of makes sense doesn't it? I mean there are a lot of apps that
use the sessionID as a key of sorts for access or cookie management so its
ok to go from a http to https connections with the same session ID because
extra security is involved but not ok to go from https to http connection
with the same sessionID cause tis insecure.
I'm sure someone on the list can tell you how to actually make it happen the
way you want but this is just my 2 cts.

On 8/27/06, Amir S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All,

I have a Jakarta 5.0.28.
When entering the tomcat first https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp and then
http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp
The sessionID changes?!
In the revise (http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp and then https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp)
order it does not, why is that?!
How can I fix it?
Please note that the different is in the HTTPS and HTTP order.

Regards,
Amir S




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Re: session drop from https to http

2006-08-27 Thread josemanuel lopez
Hi 

The reazon is because the seesion is  created with
info  from the call: example: IP address,  Port Etc, 
and  Tomcat has to  create  a new session because the
info is different, I'm being trying to find a solution
for this problem, but still I'm working on that. I'll
keep you  posted...or if you  find a solution please
forward that  to me

Thanks

--- Amir S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I have a Jakarta 5.0.28.
 When entering the tomcat first
 https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp and then
 http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp
 The sessionID changes?!
 In the revise (http://127.0.0.1/b.jsp and then
 https://127.0.0.1/a.jsp)
 order it does not, why is that?!
 How can I fix it?
 Please note that the different is in the HTTPS and
 HTTP order.
  
 Regards,
 Amir S
  
 
 
 

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Re: session drop from https to http

2006-08-27 Thread Mark Thomas
josemanuel lopez wrote:
 Hi 
 
 The reazon is because the seesion is  created with
 info  from the call: example: IP address,  Port Etc, 
 and  Tomcat has to  create  a new session because the
 info is different, I'm being trying to find a solution
 for this problem, but still I'm working on that. I'll
 keep you  posted...or if you  find a solution please
 forward that  to me

This is not the case. The reason is that any session created via https
  will not transfer to http to protect the security of the session.
This is why sessions can transfer from http to https.

Mark


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Re: session drop from https to http

2006-08-27 Thread josemanuel lopez
Hi Mark,
I have a session started with http for login I  called
hppts and the session is different th einfo created
under http can not be retrived by the second session
created by htts, any  idea how can I get info from one
session to another or better that how to share info
from sessions. 

Thanks

--- Mark Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 josemanuel lopez wrote:
  Hi 
  
  The reazon is because the seesion is  created with
  info  from the call: example: IP address,  Port
 Etc, 
  and  Tomcat has to  create  a new session because
 the
  info is different, I'm being trying to find a
 solution
  for this problem, but still I'm working on that.
 I'll
  keep you  posted...or if you  find a solution
 please
  forward that  to me
 
 This is not the case. The reason is that any session
 created via https
   will not transfer to http to protect the security
 of the session.
 This is why sessions can transfer from http to
 https.
 
 Mark
 
 

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Re: session drop from https to http

2006-08-27 Thread Mark Thomas
josemanuel lopez wrote:
 Hi Mark,
 I have a session started with http for login I  called
 hppts and the session is different th einfo created
 under http can not be retrived by the second session
 created by htts, any  idea how can I get info from one
 session to another or better that how to share info
 from sessions. 

The simple solution is do everything under https. For other solutions,
search the archives. This comes up fairly regularly.

Mark

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