Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-31 Thread Richard Zowalla
Hi, to follow up here. We had a docker-compose.yml inside of the project's root directory to build (and even debug) TomEE during a build since 2017, but it was outdated and broken with TomEE 9+. I just fixed it for TomEE 10, so if anyone wants to give it a try to build TomEE 10 from source,

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-25 Thread Jens Zurawski
Hi Bart, I have to admit that documentation is not exactly my core competence. ;-) But I'll try to at least write down the pitfalls, workarounds and hopefully solutions on my way. I'm still hoping I will not be the only one joining the project and trying to contribute, so a kind of shared

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-25 Thread Bart van Leeuwen
Hi Jens, I would be extremely grateful if you could document your experience and lessons learned somewhere Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards Bart van Leeuwen From: "Jens Zurawski" To: users@tomee.apache.org Date: 25-03-2024 10:41 Subject:Re: Question: Can I donate

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-25 Thread Jens Zurawski
Hi Richard, oh, that sounds like a lot of "fun" ;-) Thank you, that you shed some light. So this definitely can't be done by the way and one has to focus a significant amount of time without interruption in order to make some positive progress. Not impossible it just makes it a bit harder to

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-22 Thread Richard Zowalla
Hi, you actually need to choose the right branch on that repository. Some of these tests require specific settings to be present (only available on some branches) and assume certain locale / enviroment conditions (most of them aren't documented in the README). I had a lot of pain running TCK

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-22 Thread Jens Zurawski
Hi David, thanks for your reply. It's a difficult situation right now, feels a bit like a "deadlock": No relief for the active rest of the committers without new and "educated" team members, but no new team members without additional time invest of the current committers. As with technical

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-21 Thread David Blevins
> On Mar 21, 2024, at 12:47 PM, David Blevins wrote: > > Short of that idea, we're kind of stuck for the same reasons. Sorry, different reasons. My hands are tied on my time regardless if the outcome would be guaranteed good. Didn't mean to make that blurry with the above awkward statement.

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-21 Thread David Blevins
> On Mar 21, 2024, at 5:54 AM, Jens Zurawski wrote: > > Another problem is: I'm afraid, I will have to learn quite a bunch of things > before I will be of any real help to the project. Although I'm already doing > some JSF Appliactions my knowledge of the EE universe/specifications is >

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-21 Thread David Blevins
> On Mar 21, 2024, at 8:19 AM, Bart van Leeuwen > wrote: > > Hi David, > > I like the idea of having 'Getting started sessions' , also as Jens > responded in his other mail it could be benificial to write down what I > did to get things moving on my end. a How-to created by people who

RE: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-21 Thread Guillermo Talento
Hi everybody. ¿May I suggest that those sessions be recorded so that other people can learn how to contribute? This will alleviate the burden of those who know and maybe ease the learning curve. Regards, Guillermo -Mensaje original- De: Bart van Leeuwen Enviado el: jueves, 21 de marzo

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-21 Thread Bart van Leeuwen
Hi David, I like the idea of having 'Getting started sessions' , also as Jens responded in his other mail it could be benificial to write down what I did to get things moving on my end. a How-to created by people who learned how to.. Could we set a fixed fee for such a scheme which we then

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-21 Thread Jens Zurawski
Hi David, Am 20.03.2024 um 01:16 schrieb David Blevins: Are there others in Bert's position who have employer support to contribute but aren't sure where to start? I'm sort of... I am self-employed, this means if I'm deciding to contribute to the project it more or less will be part of my

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-20 Thread David Blevins
Hi Bart, Really, thank you for even trying to help at all. You are remarkable. The docker idea could help, but that would still involve someone with time to create it. Side note, I know Richard has put some effort into the build and ensuring it can work in Intellij, so things might be better

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-20 Thread Bart van Leeuwen
Hi David, thank you again for the extensive email, I see the 'deadlock' or 'race condition' in supporting financially, and one could indeed argue that might not be the way to go. I would certainly be interested in having 'Tomee development for dummies' session or something. I haven't looked

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-19 Thread David Blevins
Hi Bart, If you have the ability to contribute at work we should make that plan A and do our best with that despite the challenge it will be for everyone. It has the most potential benefit to the project and you long term. The trick with financial support is nothing short of enough to cover a

Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-19 Thread Bart van Leeuwen
Hi David, Thank you for your extensive and personal email. It is good to hear the back story of these projects now and then. I have to admit I'm in the same boat as Vicente, I would like to contribute, I can commit work time, but the sheer volume of the project is intimidating at least and

Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

2024-03-18 Thread David Blevins
> On Mar 16, 2024, at 9:02 AM, Vicente Rossello wrote: > > Hi, > > I've tried a few times to do some contributions to the project, but testing > the TCK or solving almost any issue is really hard, and very far from what > I'm used to do in my daily work. And now I don't have much time... family