Spring will give you all feature you need and will need in a year...
My Frameworks for my archetype: ;)
- Wicket
- Wicketstuff-jquery
- Spring
- singleton-beans for all short-running transactions
- session-beans with extended EntityManager for long running tx (
dont
Hmm if you refactor your daos or domain classes you still need to
manually change your xml files..
2009/6/10 Martin Sachs sachs.mar...@gmail.com:
Spring will give you all feature you need and will need in a year...
My Frameworks for my archetype: ;)
- Wicket
- Wicketstuff-jquery
-
Yes, but not all transactions are request-scoped. We have many times
implemented asynchronous transactions, because the user didn't want to
wait for the results.
Can you give a (high level) overview how to handle such a situation
in Wicket? I'm sure clients will demand such functionality
In most cases I would make it thread-scoped anyways so the same
structure applies.
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Martin
2009/6/9 Frank Tegtmeyer f...@fte.to:
Yes, but not all transactions are request-scoped. We have many times
implemented asynchronous transactions, because the user didn't want to
wait for the results.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Martin
Makundimartin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote:
In most cases I would make it thread-scoped anyways so the same
structure applies.
Right, but you can't use the same hooks to start/stop your
transactions that you do with Wicket. You have to do it at the
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Frank Tegtmeyerf...@fte.to wrote:
Can you give a (high level) overview how to handle such a situation
in Wicket? I'm sure clients will demand such functionality someday
from my application.
I would use some kind of batch processing system with API calls to get
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Martin
In most cases I would make it thread-scoped anyways so the same
structure applies.
Right, but you can't use the same hooks to start/stop your
transactions that you do with Wicket. You have to do it at the
executor level, while it executes the job or
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Martin
Makundimartin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote:
Well, the executors themselves sure Start and Stop differently, but
they can use same invocations for starting/stopping the entitymanagers
(actually: in the discussed example the hooks used in Wicket are
I say that for most cases, spring is your premature optimization.
Often it's not necessary to go further than the sea to fish. 20:80
rule of thumb.
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Martin
2009/6/9 Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com:
Though Spring is a giant beast, it is a very nice one shop stop for
your
Yeah, and do you carve a fishing pole from a tree every time you want
to go fishing?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Martin
Makundimartin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote:
I say that for most cases, spring is your premature optimization.
Often it's not necessary to go further than the sea to
No, but when I am not looking for whales, I fish just using the
fishing string and a hook with a worm tied to it.
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Martin
2009/6/9 James Carman jcar...@carmanconsulting.com:
Yeah, and do you carve a fishing pole from a tree every time you want
to go fishing?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Martin
Makundimartin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote:
I say that for most cases, spring is your premature optimization.
Having gone through 3 weeks of connection leak hunting because we
reasoned like this and implemented our own connection and transaction
Having gone through 3 weeks of connection leak hunting because we
reasoned like this and implemented our own connection and transaction
management solution (Not Invented Here), I can say with confidence:
this is not Premature Optimization.
Got to know your limits ;) That's a whale ...
Keep
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Martin
Makundimartin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote:
Keep convincing yourself that transaction and connection management is easy.
All I can do is try to make it easy by design :)
Ok, I think we can just agree to disagree, but will you do me a favor?
When
Ok, I think we can just agree to disagree, but will you do me a favor?
When (not if) you encounter a situation like Martijn is talking
about, will you post back to the list?
I just believe in principle that hunting for some bug for 3 weeks is
much less waste than dragging some toolkit along
The focus these days are to simplify frameworks, for instance take
guice and warp persist. Really really simple to use and to setup.
Spring has a bit to learn about java configuration from these guys (I
last time I tried spring was in 2.5) however I've only tried guice
1.0.
If it takes 1 day to
thats obviously catch a whale, hehe..
2009/6/9 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com:
The focus these days are to simplify frameworks, for instance take
guice and warp persist. Really really simple to use and to setup.
Spring has a bit to learn about java configuration from these
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