Wicket scalability

2010-10-28 Thread Jan Luehr
people talk about as the biggest issue with Wicket, namely scalability. We certainly have had no performance problems ourselves. Although this article was written some months ago, I didn't notice any concerns refering to scalability. Do you know, what the author is referring to? Thanks, Keep

Re: Wicket scalability

2010-10-28 Thread Jeremy Thomerson
application. It did not require high user traffic, so were weren't concerned about what people talk about as the biggest issue with Wicket, namely scalability. We certainly have had no performance problems ourselves. Although this article was written some months ago, I didn't notice any concerns

Re: Scalability

2010-04-12 Thread Nico Guba
, obtaining these rates depends on a lot of things, and we noticed that (unsurprisingly) the number of cores has a big impact on maximum scalability (32 / 8 = 4k per core). If you use an antiquated server that still processes requests on a thread per connection model, then your throughput

Scalability

2010-04-11 Thread François Meillet
Hi Wicketers, 1) I need to build a system which can perform -6000 different users per day and -200 concurent users The software used: wicket postgresql (mainly read operations) hibernate jms At the beginning there will be 2 computers (I prefer horizontal scalability). What would be your

Re: Scalability

2010-04-11 Thread Eelco Hillenius
At the beginning there will be 2 computers  (I prefer horizontal scalability). What would be your advice for the hardware (hard drive will be 10.000 RPM). -processor ? -ram For 200 concurrent sessions, 100 MB is probably already enough (20MB would be for sessions if you average 100K per session

RE: Scalability

2010-04-11 Thread Chris Colman
I hesitate between the 2 solutions, as I don't need EJBs, but we never know !!! . If you have an app that currently doesn't need EJBs then keep it that way!! ;) - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

RE: Scalability

2010-04-11 Thread Alan Garfield
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 08:31 +1000, Chris Colman wrote: I hesitate between the 2 solutions, as I don't need EJBs, but we never know !!! . If you have an app that currently doesn't need EJBs then keep it that way!! ;) More EJB FUD yay

wicket features scalability, clustering plans for next version... already ended?

2009-05-15 Thread manuelbarzi
hi, again regarding wicket features scalability, clustering there is a mention about: The next version of Wicket will support client-side models for zero-state scalability. is this already released? please, let me know asap. thank you.

Re: wicket features scalability, clustering plans for next version... already ended?

2009-05-15 Thread Johan Compagner
nope that is dropped and isnt very likely implemented in a coming release On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 15:15, manuelbarzi manuelba...@gmail.com wrote: hi, again regarding wicket features scalability, clustering there is a mention about: The next version of Wicket will support client-side

Client-side models for zero-state scalability

2009-03-24 Thread Alex Objelean
After reviewing the Wicket feature list, I accidentally noticed the following statement: The next version of Wicket will support client-side models for zero-state scalability. I am wondering if this feature will be indeed implemented in (which?) next version or this is just some feature which

Re: Client-side models for zero-state scalability

2009-03-24 Thread Matej Knopp
feature list, I accidentally noticed the following statement: The next version of Wicket will support client-side models for zero-state scalability. I am wondering if this feature will be indeed implemented in (which?) next version or this is just some feature which sounds great

Re: Client-side models for zero-state scalability

2009-03-24 Thread Alex Objelean
scalability. I am wondering if this feature will be indeed implemented in (which?) next version or this is just some feature which sounds great for marketability and will never by implemented? Thank you! Alex -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Client-side-models-for-zero

Re: Client-side models for zero-state scalability

2009-03-24 Thread Matej Knopp
, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Alex Objelean alex_objel...@yahoo.com wrote: After reviewing the Wicket feature list, I accidentally noticed the following statement: The next version of Wicket will support client-side models for zero-state scalability. I am wondering if this feature will be indeed

Re: Client-side models for zero-state scalability

2009-03-24 Thread Johan Compagner
, Alex Objelean alex_objel...@yahoo.comwrote: After reviewing the Wicket feature list, I accidentally noticed the following statement: The next version of Wicket will support client-side models for zero-state scalability. I am wondering if this feature will be indeed implemented in (which?) next

Re: Client-side models for zero-state scalability

2009-03-24 Thread Martin Grotzke
scalability. I am wondering if this feature will be indeed implemented in (which?) next version or this is just some feature which sounds great for marketability and will never by implemented? Thank you! Alex -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Client-side-models

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread Uwe Schäfer
James Carman schrieb: hi james Do you think that modulus number should be customizable? So, for now, you mod your number of users by 100. But, for larger sites, they might want to mod it by 1000 or 256 or whatever. actually, the first level dir is created from hash%1 and the second

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:35 AM, Uwe Schäfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Carman schrieb: hi james Do you think that modulus number should be customizable? So, for now, you mod your number of users by 100. But, for larger sites, they might want to mod it by 1000 or 256 or whatever.

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread Uwe Schäfer
James Carman schrieb: So, why are we dividing it up in the first place if it can't lead to problems? before, there was just the sessionId, which - as we all know - could lead to problems with 32k concurrent sessions. what you now have is 8 numbers (like in 100.000.000 minus one) * 32k. i

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread Johan Compagner
yes having this configurable looks ridiculous to me. The only thing that i can think of is is the 32K limit for all the filesystems? or does another filesystem has another limit? Because if that is the case we could make it so that for example we do 3 (1000 dirs) or 4 (1 dirs) numbers per

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread Uwe Schäfer
Johan Compagner schrieb: hi Johan or does another filesystem has another limit? from what i´ve googled, all FS i could think of either dont care, or limit to (almost) 32k or more. (could be wrong here, anyone?) hopefully the hash is a bit equally divided so the first dir will make 999

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread Matej Knopp
I don't you you want to come anywhere near the amount of 32k files in single folder. I wouldn't assume that every filesystem can handle such amount without performance problems. -Matej On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: yes having this configurable looks

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread Matej Knopp
Also, looking at this whole thing. 32000 concurrent sessions on one machine? What are you trying to achieve? I have yet to see a machine that can handle 32k concurrent users... -Matej On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Matej Knopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't you you want to come anywhere

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread James Carman
From Matej's previous email: e.g. int hash = computeHash(sessionId) % 100; String folder = + hash + / + sessionId; That's where I got the 100 thing. So, what we're talking about here is potentially 10k buckets for session store folders. There would be the potential for 10k top-level folders.

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread Jan Kriesten
Also, looking at this whole thing. 32000 concurrent sessions on one machine? What are you trying to achieve? I have yet to see a machine that can handle 32k concurrent users... hehe - the new 'Office Cray' CX1 might be up for the challenge. :D

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread James Carman
I saw that yesterday. I wonder if that thing will run linux? When I get rich and infamous, I'm buying one. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Jan Kriesten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, looking at this whole thing. 32000 concurrent sessions on one machine? What are you trying to achieve? I

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread Jan Kriesten
you can order it with windows hpc _or_ red hat linux :-) I saw that yesterday. I wonder if that thing will run linux? When I get rich and infamous, I'm buying one. Also, looking at this whole thing. 32000 concurrent sessions on one machine? What are you trying to achieve? I have yet to

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-18 Thread Uwe Schäfer
James Carman schrieb: hi James That's where I got the 100 thing. ah, i lost track of that. did not want to sound harsh or anything. The folders won't be removed even after all of their subfolders are removed, right? no empty folder should be left behind (if you stay away from just

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-17 Thread James Carman
Do you think that modulus number should be customizable? So, for now, you mod your number of users by 100. But, for larger sites, they might want to mod it by 1000 or 256 or whatever. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Uwe Schäfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor Vaynberg schrieb: you can prefix

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-16 Thread Uwe Schäfer
Matej Knopp schrieb: can you create an enhancement jira issue for this? will do. thx cu uwe -- THOMAS DAILY GmbH Adlerstraße 19 79098 Freiburg Deutschland T + 49 761 3 85 59 0 F + 49 761 3 85 59 550 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thomas-daily.de Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Wendy

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-16 Thread Uwe Schäfer
Uwe Schäfer schrieb: can you create an enhancement jira issue for this? filed as WICKET-1837, patch against 1.4m3 included. thx uwe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-16 Thread Matej Knopp
I had a quick glance at the patch. The folder hierarchy it creates seems to be quite deep, i'm not sure if that is necessary. Perhaps 3-4 levels would be enough? Also I'm afraid that this approach would leave lot of empty folders. -Matej On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Uwe Schäfer [EMAIL

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-16 Thread Uwe Schäfer
Matej Knopp schrieb: I had a quick glance at the patch. The folder hierarchy it creates seems to be quite deep, i'm not sure if that is necessary. Perhaps 3-4 levels would be enough? Also I'm afraid that this approach would leave lot of empty folders. well, that depends on the number of

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-16 Thread Matej Knopp
Another approach would be just counting hash from session id and mod it. -Matej On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Uwe Schäfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Matej Knopp schrieb: I had a quick glance at the patch. The folder hierarchy it creates seems to be quite deep, i'm not sure if that is

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-16 Thread Uwe Schäfer
Matej Knopp schrieb: Another approach would be just counting hash from session id and mod it. that´s much better for sure. i´ll do it asap. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-16 Thread Johan Compagner
A hash doesnt have to be unique for the same string :) So when will the first be that has session leakage because of that On 9/16/08, Matej Knopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another approach would be just counting hash from session id and mod it. -Matej On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Uwe

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-16 Thread Igor Vaynberg
you can prefix the file with the session name... -igor On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A hash doesnt have to be unique for the same string :) So when will the first be that has session leakage because of that On 9/16/08, Matej Knopp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Scalability PageMaps

2008-09-16 Thread Matej Knopp
Hash will only be there for the folder name. e.g. int hash = computeHash(sessionId) % 100; String folder = + hash + / + sessionId; this way you will have 100 top level folders in which you'll have session folders. This was it's much less likely to have 32k session in one folder. Or you can also

material about scalability

2008-01-10 Thread Uwe Schäfer
hi in the near future, i´ll have to create a scalability presentation for a webapp that uses wicket. i think, i´ll have enough ammo for the non-wicket parts, so i try to gather some wicket related info now. is there anything compact already i could use to summarize, why/how wicket can scale

Re: wicket scalability

2007-09-19 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 9/19/07, Lowell Kirsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For work I'm trying to use wicket, but my boss wants to be reassured that it will scale well. Can anyone point me to any sources (not anecdotes) about how well wicket scales? And yes, I know my question is vague, but right now, so are our

Re: wicket scalability

2007-09-19 Thread Johan Compagner
What do you mean with Scaling? Wicket scales pretty well. because we fully support clustering out of the box. So you can add just add new servers. Wicket it self is fast, the database would be much more of a bottleneck. johan On 9/19/07, Lowell Kirsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For work I'm

Re: wicket scalability

2007-09-19 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 9/19/07, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/19/07, Lowell Kirsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For work I'm trying to use wicket, but my boss wants to be reassured that it will scale well. Can anyone point me to any sources (not anecdotes) about how well wicket scales? And yes, I