Re: nice URLs (was: Short Design Question)

2008-02-05 Thread Erik van Oosten
Hi Johan,

I agree. Still, bookmarkability (also a requested feature) is exactly
the reason for going along with having nice URLs for every page, even
after an AJAX update. I have a prototype that uses Realysimplehistory to
allow a page to be bookmarkable after an AJAX update. Not sure yet how
general it can be made, nor how it relates to the
HybridURLCodingStrategies. Next month I'll try to extend it a bit more.

Anyways, the fact remains that nice URLs can be important for some
Wicket projects, despite what average Joes may look at.

Regards,
Erik.


Johan Compagner wrote:
 the question is what about the users of that client.
 I think nice looking urls is greatly exaggerated normal people look at the
 browser contents instead of the url
 How many times do i look at the url when i am browsing websites. I think
 never.

 Bookmarkable is another issue that should work for example jump to a
 specific artical or forum topic.

 johan



 On Feb 5, 2008 10:10 AM, Erik van Oosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Actually, I currently have a client who thinks that good looking URLs
 are very important.

 Then again, he is no average joe either.

Erik.


 Martijn Dashorst wrote:
 
 The average joe doesn't look at the URL... only developers do
 Martijn

   

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Re: nice URLs (was: Short Design Question)

2008-02-05 Thread Gabor Szokoli
On 2/5/08, Erik van Oosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Johan,

 Anyways, the fact remains that nice URLs can be important for some
 Wicket projects, despite what average Joes may look at.

A big me too to that!

We have a specific (and I beleive wise) requirement for bookmarkable,
human readable URLs representing the user interaction state. REST if
you will :-)

We are just now looking into a full AJAX redesign of the application
(not all our requirements are wise :-) ), reading up on the required
trickery like this:
http://ajaxpatterns.org/Unique_URLs


Gabor Szokoli

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Re: nice URLs (was: Short Design Question)

2008-02-05 Thread Matej Knopp
If you use HybridUrlCodingStrategy the page is bookmarkable after ajax
request. It can be recreated, but without the changes that ajax
request made to it. But this is not just ajax request, you have same
problems when using regular request. Wicket doesn't allow you to
reflect fine grained changes to page state in URL. That's a design
decision. The page state gets too complicated to be encoded in URL.

-Matej

On Feb 5, 2008 12:25 PM, Gabor Szokoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/5/08, Erik van Oosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Johan,
 
  Anyways, the fact remains that nice URLs can be important for some
  Wicket projects, despite what average Joes may look at.

 A big me too to that!

 We have a specific (and I beleive wise) requirement for bookmarkable,
 human readable URLs representing the user interaction state. REST if
 you will :-)

 We are just now looking into a full AJAX redesign of the application
 (not all our requirements are wise :-) ), reading up on the required
 trickery like this:
 http://ajaxpatterns.org/Unique_URLs


 Gabor Szokoli


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