Re: Domain Model as interfaces

2008-10-16 Thread Daniel Frisk

Hi,

I'm not sure I understand exactly what is your problem but wouldn't  
something like this:


Db4oImpl / JpaImpl / WhateverImpl ---extends---  
AbstractBaseClassWithYourBusinessLogic ---implements--- YourInterface


Where needed you would delegate to the base class (just adding the  
impl specific annotation). Just out of interest: do you really need to  
be able to easily switch between different persistence providers?


// Daniel
jalbum.net


On 2008-10-16, at 03:00, Edgar Merino wrote:


Hello,

  I couldn't find any other place to post this, so I'm doing it  
here, (it's related to java web development anyway). I've been  
working on a project where wicket has access to the domain layer  
through interfaces because I didn't want my project to depend on any  
dbms, however I've been thinking and the main problem here lies with  
db4o, since it cannot make use of JPA annotations on entities  
(domain models). I would like to get rid of those interfaces and use  
concrete implementations to handle business code inside the  
entities, but then the above problem arises. So what recommendations  
can you give to have a fully implemented domain model (using jpa  
annotations) but still be able to use any dbms (or orm/dmbs) without  
having to map those the domain model at the service layer? I hope I  
can get some feedback on this, as it has been the main problem I've  
been facing when coding scalable web applications.


Regards,
Edgar Merino

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Re: Domain Model as interfaces

2008-10-16 Thread Edgar Merino

hello daniel,

   well yeah, maybe that can work, but still I'll have to override 
every method in the base class in order to add annotations:


...
@Id
@GeneratedStrategy(..)
public Integer getId() {
   return super.getId();
}
...

   same thing for every getter/setter methods of the entity. I would 
like to be able to switch easily between persistence providers because 
right now I'm using hibernate but would like to change the provider to 
db4o when I've got the time to do so, also this is a project I intend to 
release so anyone can add the persistence provider they need easily.


Regards,
Edgar Merino

Daniel Frisk escribió:

Hi,

I'm not sure I understand exactly what is your problem but wouldn't 
something like this:


Db4oImpl / JpaImpl / WhateverImpl ---extends--- 
AbstractBaseClassWithYourBusinessLogic ---implements--- YourInterface


Where needed you would delegate to the base class (just adding the 
impl specific annotation). Just out of interest: do you really need to 
be able to easily switch between different persistence providers?


// Daniel
jalbum.net


On 2008-10-16, at 03:00, Edgar Merino wrote:


Hello,

  I couldn't find any other place to post this, so I'm doing it here, 
(it's related to java web development anyway). I've been working on a 
project where wicket has access to the domain layer through 
interfaces because I didn't want my project to depend on any dbms, 
however I've been thinking and the main problem here lies with db4o, 
since it cannot make use of JPA annotations on entities (domain 
models). I would like to get rid of those interfaces and use concrete 
implementations to handle business code inside the entities, but then 
the above problem arises. So what recommendations can you give to 
have a fully implemented domain model (using jpa annotations) but 
still be able to use any dbms (or orm/dmbs) without having to map 
those the domain model at the service layer? I hope I can get some 
feedback on this, as it has been the main problem I've been facing 
when coding scalable web applications.


Regards,
Edgar Merino

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Re: Domain Model as interfaces

2008-10-16 Thread James Carman
By the way, I just added a DB4O implementation to Domdrides.  The only
catch is that you have to download DB4O yourself and install into your
local maven repository to get the build to work.  Good luck!  Hope
that helps.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:27 AM, James Carman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are you using interfaces for your entities or your repositories
 (DAOs)?  If you'd like a library to start from, check out Domdrides (a
 DOMain-DRIven DESign library):

 http://domdrides.sourceforge.net

 Basically, it provides a common API for doing domain-driven design and
 also provides some useful superclasses for doing repositories using
 different ORM implementations (currently Hibernate, JPA, and iBATIS,
 but a DB4O implementation would be welcomed).

 On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Edgar Merino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

   I couldn't find any other place to post this, so I'm doing it here, (it's
 related to java web development anyway). I've been working on a project
 where wicket has access to the domain layer through interfaces because I
 didn't want my project to depend on any dbms, however I've been thinking and
 the main problem here lies with db4o, since it cannot make use of JPA
 annotations on entities (domain models). I would like to get rid of those
 interfaces and use concrete implementations to handle business code inside
 the entities, but then the above problem arises. So what recommendations can
 you give to have a fully implemented domain model (using jpa annotations)
 but still be able to use any dbms (or orm/dmbs) without having to map those
 the domain model at the service layer? I hope I can get some feedback on
 this, as it has been the main problem I've been facing when coding scalable
 web applications.

 Regards,
 Edgar Merino

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Re: Domain Model as interfaces

2008-10-16 Thread James Carman
Are you using interfaces for your entities or your repositories
(DAOs)?  If you'd like a library to start from, check out Domdrides (a
DOMain-DRIven DESign library):

http://domdrides.sourceforge.net

Basically, it provides a common API for doing domain-driven design and
also provides some useful superclasses for doing repositories using
different ORM implementations (currently Hibernate, JPA, and iBATIS,
but a DB4O implementation would be welcomed).

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Edgar Merino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

   I couldn't find any other place to post this, so I'm doing it here, (it's
 related to java web development anyway). I've been working on a project
 where wicket has access to the domain layer through interfaces because I
 didn't want my project to depend on any dbms, however I've been thinking and
 the main problem here lies with db4o, since it cannot make use of JPA
 annotations on entities (domain models). I would like to get rid of those
 interfaces and use concrete implementations to handle business code inside
 the entities, but then the above problem arises. So what recommendations can
 you give to have a fully implemented domain model (using jpa annotations)
 but still be able to use any dbms (or orm/dmbs) without having to map those
 the domain model at the service layer? I hope I can get some feedback on
 this, as it has been the main problem I've been facing when coding scalable
 web applications.

 Regards,
 Edgar Merino

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Domain Model as interfaces

2008-10-15 Thread Edgar Merino

Hello,

   I couldn't find any other place to post this, so I'm doing it here, 
(it's related to java web development anyway). I've been working on a 
project where wicket has access to the domain layer through interfaces 
because I didn't want my project to depend on any dbms, however I've 
been thinking and the main problem here lies with db4o, since it cannot 
make use of JPA annotations on entities (domain models). I would like to 
get rid of those interfaces and use concrete implementations to handle 
business code inside the entities, but then the above problem arises. So 
what recommendations can you give to have a fully implemented domain 
model (using jpa annotations) but still be able to use any dbms (or 
orm/dmbs) without having to map those the domain model at the service 
layer? I hope I can get some feedback on this, as it has been the main 
problem I've been facing when coding scalable web applications.


Regards,
Edgar Merino

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