Re: google-sitebricks

2009-09-27 Thread Per Lundholm
It seems to be targetting a different category of webapps: " ... that have a
lot of textual content and some components that are inserted or modified by
Javascript interactively ... ".

That opposed to: " ... web UI design using the abstraction of a desktop UI:
Events, components and widgets interacting with user clicks and actions... "

Being one that writes the latter kind of webapps, I think it is not for me.

There is also an expression language which may be interesting to learn but I
really appreciate that I can write my logic (and test it) in Java.

So from that interview, I can't see how Sitebricks makes any sense to me.

/Per

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Objelean Alex wrote:

> It seems that google created a yet-another-web-framework (as it used to be
> called). It is called google-sitebricks. Below is a link on infoq.
> http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/09/google-sitebricks
> What do you think about it?
>
> Regards,
> Alex Objelean
>


Re: google-sitebricks

2009-09-26 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> I think it's a very nicely designed minimal framework,

Maybe I shouldn't say minimal, but rather that Dhanji didn't need a
lot of code to create a powerful framework. :-)

Eelco

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Re: google-sitebricks

2009-09-26 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I think it's a very nicely designed minimal framework, and I think
it's great that it has a focus on failing as early as possible. I'm
considering using it for a site that is halfway the transition of
going from Struts 2 to mostly Ajax (extjs). That site currently uses
JSPs for templating, which should be pretty minimal since Ajax takes
over after the first render, but unfortunately isn't. Sitebricks would
be a great replacement for those JSPs, especially because we're also
refactoring that site to use Guice for DI (which totally rocks btw).

As for yet-another-framework-vs-framework discussion... I would just
use it for different purposes. Wicket is great for complex projects
that aren't Ajax-mostly, where you want to create many abstractions
and reusable components, etc. I would consider (do consider in fact)
Sitebricks when you go all ajax-y, e.g. together with YUI or ExtJs
directly. It would compete with GWT in that case, since I haven't made
up my mind whether I like that approach (great tooling support, static
typing and being able to have programmers of various levels of
competence working on it), or whether I prefer the approach to use
something like Sitebricks and/ or JAX-RS with a good JS/ Ajax lib
directly (small, elegant, flexible and no magic to fight, but needs
disciplined coders and project standards to avoid ending up in
maintenance hell). In my experience, It'll be hard to beat Wicket's
productivity though. :-)

Eelco

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Objelean Alex  wrote:
> It seems that google created a yet-another-web-framework (as it used to be
> called). It is called google-sitebricks. Below is a link on infoq.
> http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/09/google-sitebricks
> What do you think about it?
>
> Regards,
> Alex Objelean
>

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google-sitebricks

2009-09-26 Thread Objelean Alex
It seems that google created a yet-another-web-framework (as it used to be
called). It is called google-sitebricks. Below is a link on infoq.
http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/09/google-sitebricks
What do you think about it?

Regards,
Alex Objelean