Re: [xwiki-users] Off-topic: Xwiki and VMs

2011-03-10 Thread jstoldt
Hi everyone,

First of all, I agree with Ludovic and Vincent, a new VM should be created
every time a new version is out. It obviously is a lot of data that needs to
be stored but the problem with not having an up to date VM is that people
who just want to check out XWiki in a ready to go and possibly production
ready environment most likely do not want to bother with setting up the VM
and immediately having to upgrade the XWiki instance before they can try the
latest version.

Anyway, either I did not make myself clear or you missed the notion that I
am not really a huge fan of VMs. On the one hand it can be hard to integrate
pre-built VMs with a companies IT systems, on the other hand, AFAIK, there
is no really free VM software that can be used in corporations.

What I had in mind was a package that will provide everything necessary to
easily create a ready-for-production-use environment including an easy to
use configuration wizard. I further thought about upgrade packages and
restructuring the XE documents to ease upgrading.

Also, I am neither very familiar with VMs nor Linux, so I am probably really
not the best person for doing this kind of a job.

Regards,
Johannes

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Re: [xwiki-users] Off-topic: Xwiki and VMs

2011-03-10 Thread jstoldt
Hi,

Vincent, about the part you had trouble understanding, I was merely trying
to reason why the idea Andreas had about only creating a VM every once in a
while and not on a regular basis (i.e. for every version) is not good
according to my oppinion. Anyway, great that we agree on the wizard and so
forth.

Andreas, about VirtualBox, at least the full edition is not suitable for
business use if the company aims for using software with a free license. The
extension for RDP, for instance, is not part of the Open Source Edition
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Box#Licensing and
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads). Be that as it may, I am not all
in favor for VMs for the other reasons I mentioned so we do not have to
discuss this bit in length.

Regards,
Johannes

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Re: [xwiki-users] Drop mailing lists in favor of a forum software

2011-03-09 Thread jstoldt
Hmmm, I think removing the user mailing list is not a necessity when moving
to a bulleting board (like) user support. Keeping both has the benefit of
allowing both ways for the user but comes with the disadvantage of
distributed information (board and mailing list) and possibly more work for
the devs/supporting users because they would have to check both. So this
should probably be discussed.

Johannes

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