Re: [xwiki-users] How to create initial Organization Space in Xwiki workspace?
Hi Jerome, Thanks for your continued interest. I have managed to work out installing Chronopolys on Linux - the double mouse click didnt work but the terminal commands did and its looking 90% good for our application so will go with that for now. You appear to be part of the xwiki organisation so I'll just throw in my 0.03 FWIW ;-) Having trialed a fair number of wiki related tools recently, I must admit that Xwiki's approach is a little disorienting to me. Obviously as an organisation you have good reason for how its various offspring are designed, but in my opinion a less confusing approach would be if you offered the market something like: 1. Xwiki enterprise - the core wiki application then users can select from add on wiki modules to customise things further if they desire. e.g 2. want project management - then add Chonopolos addin 3. if you want workspaces - then add Workspaces add in I'm sure you get the idea ... Obviously it would be nice if all these add ins could play nicely together as well because I can find areas where all 3 of the products could be useful, but if they were integrated that would be so much neater IMO. Still, please keep on refining an already excellent product. Really the only plugin missing from my end is a Gliffy flowcharting equivalent of that available for Confluence, so maybe you could encourage Gliffy a bit. I have already asked them and the Mockups developer to think about an Xwiki inline page flowchart tool. Cheers If you are familiar with Chronopolys - what install route would you recommend - Enterprise or Workspaces first? What do you want to do exactly ? The jar you refer to (installer-generic) is an installer for a self-contained Chronopolys application, meaning that you just have to execute it and you will have a setup wizard to install Chrono. Same as for XWS, Chronopolys is built on top of XWiki Enterprise (although they both come with their own custom skins, so it's not obvious and users do not necessarily realize the application is built on top of a wiki engine). ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[xwiki-users] How to create initial Organization Space in Xwiki workspace?
Hi, I'm feeling a little dumb at the moment since I expected doing the action I'm struggling with to be so obvious as to be almost default, but I would appreciate being pointed in the right direction. I have not found a specific answer by searching the FAQ or this mailing list so maybe I'm experiencing something abnormal or haven't configured something correctly. In Xwiki workspaces after installation I get to the page: The organization's space has not been created yet As a member of the group of Administrators, you are allowed to create the Organization's own workspace. Click the link below if you wish to create the organization's own workspace. Create the organization space $newspace.set(spacetype, workspace) Warning: You have not created your personal space yet. http://myserverip:8080/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?section=OrganizationSpace and I see: --- Show the available categories * General * Workspaces * Users * Groups $newspace.set(spacetype, workspace) $newspace.set(spacetype, workspace) Click on this button if you wish to create your organisation's space. The organisation's space includes every user on this XWiki Workspaces. It features a blog, a wiki, a file manager and a photo album. You may want to create it if you wish to publish information meant to address all your users at once. Define your new workspace's basic settings Space name Mandatory - You can enter up to 50 more characters for your new space title : $newspace.display(displayTitle,edit) Description Optional - You can enter a short text describing the purpose of this workspace : $newspace.display(description,edit) Applications Choose the applications you want to install in your workspace from the list below : Access level Select an access level for this workspace : $newspace.display(accesslevel,edit) Color Choose a background color for your workspace : $newspace.display(color,edit) Its not clear to me how to create this Organization Space. Apparently the above is giving me the syntax I can use, but where is it entered? It doesnt appear to be as simple as clicking on the button 'Create the space' because that does nothing for me. I can see the browser showing the ip of the xwiki server when I click but I get no feedback from the server telling me there's a problem or even that it received my mouse click. Then higher up on the page there's some text with a light bulb which states Click on this button if you wish to create your organisation's space. Well I don't see any suitable button near this text only a button much further down the page - the one I described above. To get to this point I installed Ubuntu 8.10 server in a VM, added Java 6, Tomcat 6, Postgresl8.3 and setup the xwiki database and xwiki-enterprise-web-1.8.war in the container and also loaded xwiki-enterprise-wiki-1.8.xar default pages. I can login as Admin, create new users, groups, import the Word addin, etc but didnt see much in the way of user workspaces, so then loaded xwiki-workspaces-wiki-1.2-milestone-1.xar which duly overwrote some of the existing enterprise xar default pages and I logged in as the default Admin user. I'm not getting any errors reported, everything appears to be working, but despite rummaging around the xwiki website I havent found any comprehensive admin doc that explain the way forward for a 1st time admin/user. e.g. http://workspaces.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/ tells me hardly anything. I am using Firefox 3.07 both on localhost Ubuntu and remote client Windows to access XWiki. As far as I can tell Firefox is not blocking any pages from loading. I also tried IE7, same results. After failing with the above I guessed that maybe the plugin to do this wasnt loaded by default, so from rummaging I guessed that http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Plugins/SpaceManagerPlugin might do the trick, so I did: * Copy xwiki-plugin-spacemanager-1.1.jar to Tomcat-Xwiki's WEB-INF/lib directory * Edit WEB-INF/xwiki.cfg file I added com.xpn.xwiki.plugin.spacemanager.impl.SpaceManagerImpl to the plugins list * Restart your XWiki instance Restarted Tomcat6 Made no difference. I'm running out of ideas here. What method *should* I be doing to create the Org space and then obviously following on from this the user sub-spaces? Thanks Cheers ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] How to create initial Organization Space in Xwiki workspace?
Hello Manfred, From what I understand you are trying to do something not very orthodox : installing XWiki Workspaces on top of an existing XWiki Enterprise. This is doable, but not documented. If you check http://workspaces.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/#HInstallingandrunningtheWARdistribution you will see that XWS comes with its own WAR file (since it needs some extra templates/plugins/config to work correctly). Note that XWS does embed XWiki Enterprise, so if you install the XWS war, you have a working XE too, and all the work is done for you. The only thing that affects XWiki Enterprise when installing XWS are a couple of velocity templates that XWS overrides (but you need them to have XWS work properly) If you really want to do it the other way around (i.e. install XE first, then XWS on top), please let me know, and I'll give you some guidelines. Note that there is no released versions that has been tested with XE 1.8, so there is no guarantee it will even work without having to change code. Hope this helps, Jerome. Manfred wrote: Hi, I'm feeling a little dumb at the moment since I expected doing the action I'm struggling with to be so obvious as to be almost default, but I would appreciate being pointed in the right direction. I have not found a specific answer by searching the FAQ or this mailing list so maybe I'm experiencing something abnormal or haven't configured something correctly. In Xwiki workspaces after installation I get to the page: The organization's space has not been created yet As a member of the group of Administrators, you are allowed to create the Organization's own workspace. Click the link below if you wish to create the organization's own workspace. Create the organization space $newspace.set(spacetype, workspace) Warning: You have not created your personal space yet. http://myserverip:8080/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?section=OrganizationSpace and I see: --- Show the available categories * General * Workspaces * Users * Groups $newspace.set(spacetype, workspace) $newspace.set(spacetype, workspace) Click on this button if you wish to create your organisation's space. The organisation's space includes every user on this XWiki Workspaces. It features a blog, a wiki, a file manager and a photo album. You may want to create it if you wish to publish information meant to address all your users at once. Define your new workspace's basic settings Space name Mandatory - You can enter up to 50 more characters for your new space title : $newspace.display(displayTitle,edit) Description Optional - You can enter a short text describing the purpose of this workspace : $newspace.display(description,edit) Applications Choose the applications you want to install in your workspace from the list below : Access level Select an access level for this workspace : $newspace.display(accesslevel,edit) Color Choose a background color for your workspace : $newspace.display(color,edit) Its not clear to me how to create this Organization Space. Apparently the above is giving me the syntax I can use, but where is it entered? It doesnt appear to be as simple as clicking on the button 'Create the space' because that does nothing for me. I can see the browser showing the ip of the xwiki server when I click but I get no feedback from the server telling me there's a problem or even that it received my mouse click. Then higher up on the page there's some text with a light bulb which states Click on this button if you wish to create your organisation's space. Well I don't see any suitable button near this text only a button much further down the page - the one I described above. To get to this point I installed Ubuntu 8.10 server in a VM, added Java 6, Tomcat 6, Postgresl8.3 and setup the xwiki database and xwiki-enterprise-web-1.8.war in the container and also loaded xwiki-enterprise-wiki-1.8.xar default pages. I can login as Admin, create new users, groups, import the Word addin, etc but didnt see much in the way of user workspaces, so then loaded xwiki-workspaces-wiki-1.2-milestone-1.xar which duly overwrote some of the existing enterprise xar default pages and I logged in as the default Admin user. I'm not getting any errors reported, everything appears to be working, but despite rummaging around the xwiki website I havent found any comprehensive admin doc that explain the way forward for a 1st time admin/user. e.g. http://workspaces.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/ tells me hardly anything. I am using Firefox 3.07 both on localhost Ubuntu and remote client Windows to access XWiki. As far as I can tell Firefox is not blocking any pages from loading. I also tried IE7,
Re: [xwiki-users] How to create initial Organization Space in Xwiki workspace?
Hi Jerome, Thanks for your very quick response. Trust me to try do things front2back ;-) I'm more than happy to try it the recommended way g no need to swim uphill any more than necessary. Its just when I went to the 'instructions' link for the generic Workspaces installer the page didnt have any info to work from so then somewhere on the site I think I read that the only difference for between the Enterprise install and Workspaces was to change the final XAR. i.e. I misinterpreted the docs here: http://workspaces.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/#HInstallingandrunningtheWARdistribution Installing and running the WAR distribution This installation type requires you have a Servlet Container and a relational database installed and configured. You will need to download xwiki-workspaces war distribution from the Download page. The first steps to setting up your installation are similar to installing XWiki Enterprise, so please refer its installation guide. Only, in the concluding step, you will have to install XWiki Workspaces Wiki XAR, instead of the XWiki Enterprise one. Even re-reading it now - its easy to make the mistake again because one is referred to the Enterprise install guide and if one is not paying complete attention one misses the fact that one needs to apply the Enterprise install rules to Workspace. Anyway, now that I understand it, I'll try things the XWiki expected way round. One other question, since clearly you're very familiar with Xwiki. I would like to add xwiki-product-chronopolys-installer-generic-1.0.jar but havent tried to do this yet. If you are familiar with Chronopolys - what install route would you recommend - Enterprise or Workspaces first? Thanks - Original Message - From: Jerome Velociter jer...@xwiki.com To: XWiki Users users@xwiki.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:27:18 PM GMT +02:00 Harare / Pretoria Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] How to create initial Organization Space in Xwiki workspace? From what I understand you are trying to do something not very orthodox : installing XWiki Workspaces on top of an existing XWiki Enterprise. This is doable, but not documented. If you check http://workspaces.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/#HInstallingandrunningtheWARdistribution you will see that XWS comes with its own WAR file (since it needs some extra templates/plugins/config to work correctly). Note that XWS does embed XWiki Enterprise, so if you install the XWS war, you have a working XE too, and all the work is done for you. The only thing that affects XWiki Enterprise when installing XWS are a couple of velocity templates that XWS overrides (but you need them to have XWS work properly) ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
